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Post by mansfieldpanther91 on Mar 5, 2018 18:45:32 GMT
Totally get your point, however in another sense it could work. David ling as an example. Lots of contacts, experience, played the game the way we'd like to see it played. Worked under alot of coaches so I'm pretty sure he'll have taken what he thinks works and what doesn't from them. I think hockey coaching is totally different from football etc , in the sense that football relies mainly on transfer fees, scouts etc We don't have scouts and rely on word of mouth and contacts. David ling would bring that for sure. But David Ling would turn up in October and leave in January. Haha probably true, I would like to see someone of that calibre though, experience of eihl as a player aswell as nhl ahl khl, highly experienced player with contacts, I'm not too fussed on coaching experience.
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Post by mansfieldpanther91 on Mar 5, 2018 18:11:58 GMT
Seems strange to me that when it comes to sports coaching, people equate playing skills with coaching skills. Why do people think that good players will make good coaches and vice versa? Coaching is a completely different skill set. It appears that eventually the football world has cottoned on to this (with a lot of the top coaches now having had very modest playing careers). Totally get your point, however in another sense it could work. David ling as an example. Lots of contacts, experience, played the game the way we'd like to see it played. Worked under alot of coaches so I'm pretty sure he'll have taken what he thinks works and what doesn't from them. I think hockey coaching is totally different from football etc , in the sense that football relies mainly on transfer fees, scouts etc We don't have scouts and rely on word of mouth and contacts. David ling would bring that for sure.
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Post by mansfieldpanther91 on Mar 4, 2018 21:49:40 GMT
Adam Keefe’s First trophy in his rookie year as coach. Certainly won’t be his last. He's done a cracking job to be fair.
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Post by mansfieldpanther91 on Feb 28, 2018 17:27:15 GMT
With the weather forecast I can’t see this going ahead. The Fife v Edinburgh match cancelled and they are only 30 miles apart. I was just thinking the same, looks bad enough up there at the minute and apparently it's going to get worse over the next couple of days, re arrange for Saturday or Sunday?
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Post by mansfieldpanther91 on Feb 27, 2018 19:47:06 GMT
I think Ollie is great on the PK personally, and the reason the doesn't play 5v3 PK is because he doesn't play centre, have you ever seen him take a faceoff? lacho has played 5 on 3 for years but on last year started playing centre so that theory don't work. It should by common sense, you've got 3 players defending against 5, 2 d and a forward that's capable of winning defensive face offs. The fact that we havnt done that in the past, comes down to the coach. It's basic stuff that we havnt done
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Post by mansfieldpanther91 on Feb 26, 2018 22:02:34 GMT
You can now get a kids season ticket at Forest for a tenner - a season ticket! With adults' season tickets a similar amount to Panthers, but a kid's season ticket about the same price as a single Panthers game, do you think Panthers will have to respond? If Forest start to do well I think Black/GM's apathy and arrogance could be under pressure.... Give over. Panthers are so arrogant and up themselves they never even do “kids for a quid/fiver” never mind a season ticket for a tenner. Even a non event mid week cup game only gets us a measly “two pound” discount ! 🙄 Also it's very rare that our games clash, I've been to football and Panthers in the same day. They've got no reason to compete with what a football team is doing
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Post by mansfieldpanther91 on Feb 25, 2018 23:10:17 GMT
Why would you get rid of Lee, Ollie or Kelsall? Kelsall has hardly played a game, largely thanks to his season ending injury. Keep him on a 2-way contract, out of the main roster but training with the Panthers to develop! Ollie is one of, if not the best British PK'er in the EIHL, he is tireless, aggressive on the forecheck and only 22. He has also consistently improved year on year during his time with the Panthers. To gas him now would be madness. He's never going to be our top scorer, his finishing is not there, but he grinds out games and wears opponents down with his energy. He plays a 4th line role well and I'd much rather he play that role and allow us to bring in another import sniper or playmaker to boost the scoring lines! I've already given my piece on Lee earlier in the thread, but I'd hate to see him elsewhere. Lee not good enough too comfortable in his role the league has improved he has not. kesall plain and simple not going to big enough to play eihl level ollie best brit penalty killer? what game do you watch? hes only started playing the role this year, if he was the best he would also play 5 on 3 he does not. lacho is our best brit penalty kiler I think Ollie is great on the PK personally, and the reason the doesn't play 5v3 PK is because he doesn't play centre, have you ever seen him take a faceoff?
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Post by mansfieldpanther91 on Feb 25, 2018 21:30:58 GMT
Just on the drive back home now. Decent result got to be happy with a 5 point weekend on our recent form. Nice to see gospel get the game time he deserves. Can’t argue what has been said it’s time to let’s the caps go they bring nothing to the eihl complete waste of time. Isn’t the rink there going to be pulled down and turned into a hotel anyway? That was supposed to be the rugby ground site, they can't touch the ice rink as it's a listed building. They can't even revamp the rink due to that
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Post by mansfieldpanther91 on Feb 25, 2018 20:50:17 GMT
Wouldn't surprise me at all if they dropped out of the eihl and stuck with their snl team. Feel for their fans but at the same time, where is the money coming from for them to have a competitive team? They've got massive potential given the size of the city etc but without someone willing to throw some serious money in with no hope of seeing a return anytime soon, I just can't see it personally.
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Post by mansfieldpanther91 on Feb 24, 2018 11:50:59 GMT
I think alot of people expected something different from billingsley after hearing his nickname, but if you listen to his interview when he first came to Nottingham, he says the nickname was nothing to do with his gameplay etc it was to do with a film character or something along them lines. I've been happy with him personally , plays simple, safe and doesn't make many mistakes
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Post by mansfieldpanther91 on Feb 22, 2018 20:56:50 GMT
I didn't accuse you of being a transient fan... It wasn't my intention to do this but to point out which section of hockey watchers have this import import import thinking mentality. Now if you have the same opinion as to imports as the transient fans, well that's just a simple case of "if the cap fits......." As for Brit development, you're correct it won't happen as long as there's no desire to see it happen. With owners and fans looking more towards what happens in a Saturday night than having a long term view on the future of this sport. With respect,half our crowd is probably made up of “transient fans” who if you asked them,wouldn’t have a clue which of Brown or Farmer was an import. I'd say more to be honest. I know season ticket holders who don't know about imports etc and who is from where.
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Post by mansfieldpanther91 on Feb 20, 2018 19:31:00 GMT
100% kolnik was a real sniper but had much more than just goals to his game. Heard rumours of mosey going to Cardiff in the summer as he only came back to Nottingham as he'd promised Corey. Cardiff had offered him more money last summer The second part of that rumour was confirmed to my understanding, Mosey giving Corey first refusal, though to say it was the "only" reason is a bit harsh on the adoration this fan base has shown for Mosey and the great memories he no doubt has with the club. If the incentive to move is purely financial, then I find it very hard to believe Nottingham would refuse to match offers and allow their fan favorite to be poached by their biggest competition. It would be utterly embarrassing for the club and really confirm the penny-pinching image many hold of the Panthers management. I doubt the only attraction is money, players all like to win, they're in the challenge cup final, top of the league and will the playing in the chl again next season. And sorry to be a soon merchant, but do you really think being a fan favourite has any sentimental value or influence or a career decision? It's a short career , they follow money first and foremost like we all day at work.
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Post by mansfieldpanther91 on Feb 20, 2018 15:09:38 GMT
100% kolnik was a real sniper but had much more than just goals to his game. Heard rumours of mosey going to Cardiff in the summer as he only came back to Nottingham as he'd promised Corey. Cardiff had offered him more money last summer
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Post by mansfieldpanther91 on Feb 20, 2018 13:13:16 GMT
Mosey certainly isn't a top liner, great he has speed but rarely anything comes of it. He doesn't put up top line points. He's no playmaker and certainly no sniper Do you think he’d suite second line with Derlago and Pither? The reason I put him first line is because we’ve seen what he can do with the right players, in 15/16 Mosey, Moran and Kolnik was our go to line, if we could create that sort of dynamic again I thought he might have more success. personally I wouldn't have him back, I'd prefer the money to be spent on a kolnik or Jason Williams, someone with experience, we've lacked that this year imo. He's rumoured to be our top earner too, if that's true you want more than a 2nd/3rd line 2 way forward as a top earner if you want to be competing for the league
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Post by mansfieldpanther91 on Feb 20, 2018 10:15:25 GMT
Mosey certainly isn't a top liner, great he has speed but rarely anything comes of it. He doesn't put up top line points. He's no playmaker and certainly no sniper
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Post by mansfieldpanther91 on Feb 19, 2018 19:13:58 GMT
Spang plays defence. You go on a public forum and rip on guys, but yet don't even know what position they play....seriously ? Delgado has been excellent Read it properly, I said spang 'LOOKS a frustrated winger. He gets spends more time in the opposing teams done than his own, which I could accept if he had it in him to get back, but he gets caught by the odd man rush way too often. He's primarily a defenceman although he acts like a winger.
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Post by mansfieldpanther91 on Feb 19, 2018 18:41:16 GMT
All the Brits back, plus Galbraith Gagnon Sauve Billingsley Brown
That would be it for me Mosey has been this year's schultz, spent as much time in the stand as he has on the ice and he's not looked a shadow of the player we had before Derlago and Phillips very disappointing given their cv. Should have been averaging a point per game. Bussieries very disappointing Lindhagen I'd consider but not fussed either way Spang, never been keen , looks a frustrated winger to me.
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Post by mansfieldpanther91 on Feb 15, 2018 18:30:05 GMT
Corey has already had offers from across Europe including the KHL.. Such a bad coach, as soon as there's a sniff of him becoming available there's offers flooding in! Looking forward to keeping an eye on his progress when he does leave. Where did you get that from? poopjokes.com
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Post by mansfieldpanther91 on Feb 14, 2018 21:05:42 GMT
I do hope we appoint a new coach by the end of the campaign or within the first couple of weeks of the off season. Whoever gets the job will need time to build his team for next season etc
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Post by mansfieldpanther91 on Feb 14, 2018 19:15:50 GMT
Yep but the one running away with it has a hockey minded management team running it. And an ex player as GM. Don’t matter who we get we’ll be in the same position next year. Kelman greets away fans through the door and our GM treats his own fans with distain. Says it all really. Remember my first trip to the BBT, I'd not been following Panthers that long and didn't know anyone in the league including kellman etc. We beat them 7-3 I think and kellman still stood there and wished me and other panthers fans safe travels home etc. Genuinely nice guy in my book .
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Post by mansfieldpanther91 on Feb 14, 2018 19:13:19 GMT
You say you need an experienced coach but look what Keefe is doing and what Lord has done for Cardiff. Not even five seasons of coaching between them and arguably the two teams playing the best hockey this year. 100 percent they've done a great job, they're both north American with contacts. I'm not too fussed on experience although it would be an advantage, I think contacts are more important. We're never going to get a tactical genius at our level with experience so we may aswell go for the contacts. David ling anyone?
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Post by mansfieldpanther91 on Feb 14, 2018 13:22:48 GMT
Got to be a north American coach with contacts for me, as much as I think Russell has done a great job at mkl I don't think hed have the contacts to bring enough players in I'd a title challenging calibre
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Post by mansfieldpanther91 on Feb 13, 2018 15:16:02 GMT
I personally see a lack of effort, Not a lack of talent , however I can accept that others see if the other way around. That blog starts by criticising people for being mid readers etc, how do they know there's 100 percent effort, are they mind readers themselves. I find it very contradicting, either the players aren't good enough, which is neilsons fault for recruiting poorly, Or they are good enough but there's no effort, which is the players fault and mainly Corey's for not coaching them Well, either way it all comes back to Corey
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Post by mansfieldpanther91 on Feb 11, 2018 21:44:32 GMT
An idea without anyone getting into trouble, take a gm out or Corey out whatever, get a photo of it upfront of the arena or inside and post it on every social media output for the Panthers?
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Post by mansfieldpanther91 on Feb 8, 2018 22:01:37 GMT
Different people will have different views on failure so it’s a bit of an open questions. There are fans who go to see a game see us win and are happy, see us lose and are sad but their lives don’t change from it. There’s fans who take in the odd road game and buy tickets to most but not all home games and maybe they just like to get out the house and be entertained by a sporting event without having any real investment in the club they just spend the evening with mates and that’s fine for them. And then we have the fans who invest time and money into the club, season tickets and regular road games who expect the team to perform and win trophies, some of these fans have been misguided by the trophy haul we’ve collected with only winning the league once and then we have the others who are pee’d off when year OJ year our league campaign unravels in December then we give it a good go mid Feb until the end of the year finishing 3rd/4th. So like I’ve said different expectations from different fans. Failure might not be what they all see. That's exactly what it is, but there seem to be more fans that just go to get out of the house and be entertained by a sporting event than the hard-core who buy season tickets and do road trips etc. I've been going 3-4 years and it didn't take me long to realise what a big club this is. First road trips I did were Cardiff (BBT) and Coventry, soon realised given the size of their rinks etc, that we should be at very least challenging for the league every season. Maybe that explains why alot are content with what we see at home games, because they havnt really seen the bigger picture.
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