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Post by wilx on Jan 5, 2022 10:11:55 GMT
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Post by Wolves 66 on Jan 5, 2022 10:16:17 GMT
Even though we have all been calling for change, I must admit this has come as a bit of a shock.
Part of me thinks he's been the scapegoat for what was actually poor recruitment
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Post by wilx on Jan 5, 2022 10:18:54 GMT
The proof will be on the quality of the replacement
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Post by kievthegreat on Jan 5, 2022 10:22:03 GMT
The results haven't been good enough, but not sure we've dealt with the problem here.  |
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Post by cooperphil156 on Jan 5, 2022 10:30:05 GMT
Even though we have all been calling for change, I must admit this has come as a bit of a shock. Part of me thinks he's been the scapegoat for what was actually poor recruitment Or lack of investment Strangely I saw this Panthers release on Twitter and then it disappeared. Perhaps a few cryptic retorts? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2022 10:33:12 GMT
Literally the one man who is blameless in all this when there's 2 men who should be ahead of him in the queue! #scapegoat
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Post by Bagheera on Jan 5, 2022 10:34:44 GMT
Not suprised at all. Not because I think he was a bad coach(I was still undecided) but because Black was always going to look to deflect from himself. Scapegoat for sure.
Crap rolls down hill I know, but the problem starts from the top. Like most I believe budget is the biggest problem with this team. If, somehow the budget is the same as the other top teams then Ducet should've been the one to get the bullet.
Lot's been said on the subject already but all problems stem from Black. I feel a bit for Wallace, however Im not too bothered to see him go either. Well, I am, but simply because I think Black thinks this will appease the fans.
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Post by cooperphil156 on Jan 5, 2022 10:40:06 GMT
One would think that an interim coach would be appointed, unless they already have someone lined up, which is difficult at this stage of the season. If its an interim coach - back to Rick or even Dave Clark?
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Post by kievthegreat on Jan 5, 2022 10:45:35 GMT
One would think that an interim coach would be appointed, unless they already have someone lined up, which is difficult at this stage of the season. If its an interim coach - back to Rick or even Dave Clark? Matheson and Lee taking over as interim coaches. I'd assume as he was already assistant, that Matheson will be the most senior of the 2. |
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Post by wilx on Jan 5, 2022 10:51:59 GMT
You would like to think Doucet would be keen to get behind the bench and show us what he could do with the quality players he ( not Wallace) signed? Mind you he must be so busy with the DOH role , he maybe doesn't have time
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Post by EMB on Jan 5, 2022 10:53:07 GMT
What a total p**s poor club, Wallace made the scapegoat and Black continues to hide behind the frontmen. About time he sold up and cleared off. 22years as a season ticket holder and I dont think I have felt this disillusioned in a long time. Okay we're not brilliant this season but the buck stops at the top.
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Post by kievthegreat on Jan 5, 2022 10:54:57 GMT
What a total p**s poor club, Wallace made the scapegoat and Black continues to hide behind the frontmen. About time he sold up and cleared off. 22years as a season ticket holder and I dont think I have felt this disillusioned in a long time. Okay we're not brilliant this season but the buck stops at the top. The buck is collected at the top. |
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Post by meadow on Jan 5, 2022 11:09:12 GMT
Its said in the NHL that a GM (or DoH in this case) has one coach firing before they themself are on the block...
As many others have said previously, I don't think coaching was the primary issue here - this roster is completely threadbare for a supposed 'big 4' team and the lack of quality depth is killing us against the Sheffields, Belfasts. I'd put good money on that being a case of NB imposed budgetary constraints rather than GD's recruitment too (echoes of the prudency we were sold around the time of the move to the NIC...).
The bigger issue now is who would want this role?? Its not like the club is putting you in a position to succeed with the roster/budget, in fact you're getting the worse of both worlds - champaign expectations with a lemonade budget!
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Post by John Casey on Jan 5, 2022 11:12:35 GMT
Odds on some new signings soon?
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Post by blackandgold73 on Jan 5, 2022 11:14:14 GMT
This bit of the release says it all to me ...
"We are now looking to bring in a new Head Coach, *which along with new signings and the return of key players from injury* will get us back on track to be a competitive team, every single matchday."
Sorry what, if you wanted to be competitive (under Wallace) why didn't the new signings arrive already? And why release players without replacing them?
Feel like he's been scapegoated in the worst possible way.
1) under recruit
2) don't bring in quality replacements for injured players. Or any at all often
3) get rid of players you do have before the busiest period without replacements depleting the squad
4) blame the coach for then going on a losing streak with a further weakened squad.
5) sack the coach
Only then...
6) announce new signings are coming and injured players are returning
Wait. WTBleep?!
Does anyone seriously think *Wallace* had the idea to can two players and not replace them before the festive run?
Feels like the organisation wanted him out for some reason and made it as hard as possible for him to keep his job.
Was he a good coach? He showed promise and proved his systems could work last year. Was he was adaptable as we needed - perhaps like many new coaches not yet. Did he find the right line combinations quickly - no. But had he got the right pieces to do so this year - highly debatable.
Are there better coaches out there, for sure. Will they want to come here looking at the set up and squad, hmmmm. Odds on another rookie coach, climbing.
Feels like either he'd lost the room and an excuse was manufactured or that some part of the organisation wanted him gone.
If new signings are announced this week or start of next week that will be telling
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Post by blackandgold73 on Jan 5, 2022 11:18:58 GMT
You would like to think Doucet would be keen to get behind the bench and show us what he could do with the quality players he ( not Wallace) signed? Mind you he must be so busy with the DOH role , he maybe doesn't have time I'd actually like to see this for all sorts of reasons. It would definitely be interesting |
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Post by Wolves 66 on Jan 5, 2022 11:20:16 GMT
Feels like the organisation wanted him out for some reason and made it as hard as possible for him to keep his job. Perhaps to save money on the cost of his salary? |
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Post by blackandgold73 on Jan 5, 2022 11:25:32 GMT
Feels like the organisation wanted him out for some reason and made it as hard as possible for him to keep his job. Perhaps to save money on the cost of his salary? If the new coach looks like he's obviously going to be cheaper or they continue with Matheson until the end of the year then maybe? Question I come back to then would be... how is a replacement going to be cheaper unless they're *less* experienced? Which is hardly going to instill confidence in turning things around is it? |
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Post by cooperphil156 on Jan 5, 2022 11:25:32 GMT
One would think that an interim coach would be appointed, unless they already have someone lined up, which is difficult at this stage of the season. If its an interim coach - back to Rick or even Dave Clark? Matheson and Lee taking over as interim coaches. I'd assume as he was already assistant, that Matheson will be the most senior of the 2. One would tend to think that Matheson had a significant input, which is of concern |
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Post by rayblock9 on Jan 5, 2022 11:30:52 GMT
We have been subjected to boring hockey since Wallace arrived, he was lucky with Herr but the rest has been dire.
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The Flying Shirt
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jan 5, 2022 11:32:09 GMT
 Well I called that one right |
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Post by kievthegreat on Jan 5, 2022 11:33:34 GMT
For those who haven't seen the tweet of this news, they chose a great picture!
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Post by iginla on Jan 5, 2022 11:34:32 GMT
Wrong bloke sacked it should have been the totally pointless Director of Hockey.
Black appointed him to supposedly recruit the team and what he recruited is severely lacking in quality.
Wallace has been the scapegoat here,you can’t underfund a team like Black obviously has,sign a load of crap then blame the coach.
Black needs to be looking at Doucet and himself if he’s looking for scapegoats,obviously at Panthers the buck doesn’t reach the top !
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Post by iginla on Jan 5, 2022 11:38:02 GMT
Odds on some new signings soon? Yup give the new coach the tools the other poor guy you sacked didn’t have. Typical Black that ! |
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jan 5, 2022 11:38:36 GMT
Wrong bloke sacked it should have been the totally pointless Director of Hockey. Black appointed him to supposedly recruit the team and what he recruited is severely lacking in quality. Wallace has been the scapegoat here,you can’t underfund a team like Black obviously has,sign a load of crap then blame the coach. Black needs to be looking at Doucet and himself if he’s looking for scapegoats,obviously at Panthers the buck doesn’t reach the top ! Wallace was only taken on because he had a bit of experience running a team on a shoestring. The only problem is Nottingham isn't MK. Doucet to go next for me. |
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