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Post by wgray on Jan 5, 2022 11:43:15 GMT
What an absolute joke! I really feel for Tim right now, he didn’t deserve this. I just don’t understand why they would make this decision when the majority of fans haven’t been calling for him to be relieved. Everyone can see through the decision, it’s absolute BS!
Tim will have been involved in recruiting the team so he takes blame along with Doucet in that regard but it doesn’t appear that we’ve had the same budget as others, if we have then someone has had our pants down. Injuries to key plays also haven’t helped the team, but the replacements brought in haven’t been to the standard needed.
The Finn’s may have wanted to leave but the failure to sign anybody after they’ve left is why we’ve been so poor. With players returning from injury, and if we do actually bring in some quality players, then I absolute believe that we would have started winning under Tim.
In a period where there’s so much instability in the club this was not the right call.
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Post by Higgy on Jan 5, 2022 11:43:21 GMT
We have been subjected to boring hockey since Wallace arrived, he was lucky with Herr but the rest has been dire. This I do agree with,I wasn't a fan of Wallace hockey but still think he's been hard done by.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jan 5, 2022 11:47:42 GMT
That's all we need, Lee in a coaching role, we have enough dump and chase failures without someone coaching their signature move. Anything to keep him off the ice
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Post by Jord v4 on Jan 5, 2022 11:51:50 GMT
I guess this is what the DOH does during the season then... Fires the guy directly below him to save his job.
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Post by Dips on Jan 5, 2022 11:58:37 GMT
So Wallace has been fired for not being able to turn water into Wine.
Good luck in finding another coach who can do that.
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Jan 5, 2022 12:02:09 GMT
Wallace didn't inspire me as a coach. When he was appointed I thought it was on the basis of him making the best of a limited squad at MK, but he hasn't got the best out of this season's squad, even allowing for injuries etc. It's unfortunate, that so many things this season conspire but I guess he's just another victim of the Nottingham 'curse'. Better to have acted now than let it drag on. Doucet will certainly have his work cut out in the next few weeks. Draw the line and let's move on.
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Post by kievthegreat on Jan 5, 2022 12:02:24 GMT
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Post by kievthegreat on Jan 5, 2022 12:08:40 GMT
Key quote for me: "We're spending cap, just like they are (Cardiff/Belfast/Sheffield)". Signing his own P45?
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Post by Jord v4 on Jan 5, 2022 12:25:03 GMT
Key quote for me: "We're spending cap, just like they are (Cardiff/Belfast/Sheffield)". Signing his own P45? That would be the definition of that statement, yes. Although I would be amazed if we've spent the same amount as the others, Sheffield especially.
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Post by bobness on Jan 5, 2022 12:27:39 GMT
The only thing I'm surprised at is the "Merry Christmas" message still on the page it directs to.
The coach is responsible for the on ice product. Coaches work with what they've got and Wallace's coaching lately has been objectively poor. Maybe you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, but you can make a team that doesn't get rolled over every night?
There's enough half-decent players on the roster to make a competitive team. It's become a poor team.
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Post by bobness on Jan 5, 2022 12:45:15 GMT
Key quote for me: "We're spending cap, just like they are (Cardiff/Belfast/Sheffield)". Signing his own P45? That would be the definition of that statement, yes. Although I would be amazed if we've spent the same amount as the others, Sheffield especially. Surely Giants are the team that, on paper, you think are well expensive. Reinhardt (!), Piccinich, Boucher, for example. How they've got that team for the same £ as Panthers is a crime...
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Post by Jord v4 on Jan 5, 2022 12:45:34 GMT
That's all we need, Lee in a coaching role, we have enough dump and chase failures without someone coaching their signature move. Anything to keep him off the ice The timing of your profile pic change was noted by the way.... I know who you really are.
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Post by kievthegreat on Jan 5, 2022 12:48:08 GMT
That would be the definition of that statement, yes. Although I would be amazed if we've spent the same amount as the others, Sheffield especially. Surely Giants are the team that, on paper, you think are well expensive. Reinhardt (!), Piccinich, Boucher, for example. How they've got that team for the same £ as Panthers is a crime... Conway too!
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Post by iginla on Jan 5, 2022 12:48:38 GMT
For those who haven't seen the tweet of this news, they chose a great picture! Chortle 🤣🤣🤣 Only Panthers could be that stupid !
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Post by kievthegreat on Jan 5, 2022 12:51:28 GMT
That would be the definition of that statement, yes. Although I would be amazed if we've spent the same amount as the others, Sheffield especially. Surely Giants are the team that, on paper, you think are well expensive. Reinhardt (!), Piccinich, Boucher, for example. How they've got that team for the same £ as Panthers is a crime... Thinking about this, do any of the local anoraks track who is on a Uni deal? Curious if other sides have been giving out more degrees and saving money on wages?
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jan 5, 2022 12:51:58 GMT
I predict that if the two he is going to bring in are anything like the other mid season signings Doucet will be next
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jan 5, 2022 12:53:44 GMT
Anything to keep him off the ice The timing of your profile pic change was noted by the way.... I know who you really are. I'm after Doucet
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Post by Jord v4 on Jan 5, 2022 12:55:52 GMT
That would be the definition of that statement, yes. Although I would be amazed if we've spent the same amount as the others, Sheffield especially. Surely Giants are the team that, on paper, you think are well expensive. Reinhardt (!), Piccinich, Boucher, for example. How they've got that team for the same £ as Panthers is a crime... Belfast's looks stronger yes but when you see their level of experience/age compared to Sheffield in particular it makes we wonder.
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Post by spik on Jan 5, 2022 13:09:43 GMT
Agree with the sentiments here. Blaming one man, especially late on all calls/ decisions. Who runs this club/team? Only Panthers can decide to move NOW after giving their initial coach ‘rubbish’ to work with. I mean look at that table...the other three top teams don’t have this trouble religiously each season. Didn’t take it on from 2013. Too comfy with adoring fans ( though it’s composition has changed) so not looking to better itself. Excepts mid table constantly. Season a write off already.
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Post by bobness on Jan 5, 2022 13:22:25 GMT
Surely Giants are the team that, on paper, you think are well expensive. Reinhardt (!), Piccinich, Boucher, for example. How they've got that team for the same £ as Panthers is a crime... Belfast's looks stronger yes but when you see their level of experience/age compared to Sheffield in particular it makes we wonder. Not wishing to get into a "he said/she said" back and forth job but, worth pointing out that Steelers started the season with only 2 forwards and 2 D who hadn't played in the EIHL before, and one of them left pretty quickly. Panthers started with 7. Giants had 11 new faces, only 3 returning import skaters. I think maybe Panthers in general thought the league wouldn't be as competitive as it has turned out. They didn't tweak much, and it was generally "more of the same" but most others moved on over the summer. If you follow MotoGP, a bit like Suzuki's season in 2021. The coach is normally the first to fall, sadly.
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Post by blackandgold73 on Jan 5, 2022 13:30:07 GMT
For those who haven't seen the tweet of this news, they chose a great picture! Wow they just can't help shooting themselves in the foot can they 🤦🏾♂️
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jan 5, 2022 13:42:22 GMT
Belfast's looks stronger yes but when you see their level of experience/age compared to Sheffield in particular it makes we wonder. Not wishing to get into a "he said/she said" back and forth job but, worth pointing out that Steelers started the season with only 2 forwards and 2 D who hadn't played in the EIHL before, and one of them left pretty quickly. Panthers started with 7. Giants had 11 new faces, only 3 returning import skaters. I think maybe Panthers in general thought the league wouldn't be as competitive as it has turned out. They didn't tweak much, and it was generally "more of the same" but most others moved on over the summer. If you follow MotoGP, a bit like Suzuki's season in 2021. The coach is normally the first to fall, sadly. I think it was a bad thing to win the mini-season as it's turned out but even then losing Domingue through a bad injury was disastrous as he is the key forward going into this season. It also meant that we were signed very early before seeing who Sheffield and Belfast brought in. Pretty sure that Doucet was told that the mini-season team was cheap and won so that's the way forward. I don't think our budget is the same as Sheffield and Belfast even leaving their top lines out. It doesn't really matter if Doucet recruited the players as it was obvious his budget was too small and both he and Wallace should have said that it couldn't be done without emptying the arena. Thinking that it would be ok and pressing on was where the mistake was made. Doucet was obviously going to be under pressure and Wallace had to stand behind the bench throughout the whole debacle. Doucet to me looks like he's already packing his bag. Black gave a smaller budget then fine, if you are going to get sacked anyway they should have pointed at that. Just jumping out over the trench with its "all my fault" written on your back is stupidly naive. Both Wallace and Doucet have played in the EIHL long enough and I think both have played for opposing teams that have had us boo'ing Pathers off the ice at the end. If as I hope the budget was much smaller than others have spent then Wallace wouldn't have looked like a fish out of water in recent interviews. I think it's both lower budget and terrible recruiting overpaying certain players and for this, I predict that Doucet might be at East Midlands Airport just after Wallace's plane takes off. Shame on any arena owner that cuts the budget just to make more money. Sheffield and Belfast haven't and I think that's shameful. Taking on the Coach and DOH positions in that situation is just plain stupid. Both know/knew better.
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Post by wannabe2 on Jan 5, 2022 13:47:03 GMT
Scoring 2.68 goals and conceeding 3.42 goals average per game is always going to be an uphill battle.
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Post by Bagheera on Jan 5, 2022 13:49:17 GMT
Surely Giants are the team that, on paper, you think are well expensive. Reinhardt (!), Piccinich, Boucher, for example. How they've got that team for the same £ as Panthers is a crime... Thinking about this, do any of the local anoraks track who is on a Uni deal? Curious if other sides have been giving out more degrees and saving money on wages? I dont track it but somebody mentioned to me the other day that Brlfast have something like 7
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jan 5, 2022 13:50:37 GMT
Thinking about this, do any of the local anoraks track who is on a Uni deal? Curious if other sides have been giving out more degrees and saving money on wages? I dont track it but somebody mentioned to me the other day that Brlfast have something like 7 They usually do. That's normal for Belfast
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