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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2022 20:02:49 GMT
That would be the definition of that statement, yes. Although I would be amazed if we've spent the same amount as the others, Sheffield especially. Surely Giants are the team that, on paper, you think are well expensive. Reinhardt (!), Piccinich, Boucher, for example. How they've got that team for the same £ as Panthers is a crime... Keefe has better contacts than fraud Doucet??! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2022 20:04:06 GMT
Do Loughborough even give us 7 places to use? Anyway, I'm sure he's a decent chap and I don't particularly like to see people lose their jobs, but sport is like that I guess so it's the correct decision for me. Playing below .500 is not good enough. That we still need to get rid of Doucet and Blacky himself doesn't change that, and he was always going to be first to go. It was the easy thing to do but not the right one.. black and Doucet are cowards end of! |
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Post by floridadad on Jan 5, 2022 20:41:41 GMT
When Austin told me of this firing it really was disheartening! I watched every game during the elite series and although I scratched my head at times it did seem to me that Wallace knew what buttons to push and when to push them. He took a group of guys who were not the most talented and molded them into a Championship team. He consistently put the players in the right positions and at the right time. He got the most out of each player by allowing them to play within themselves and not try to do to much. And he pushed his players out of their comfort zone when they needed to. He and Doucet brought in the right guys and defined their roles. And they accepted them. I know a lot of the guys that were brought in this year from the NCAA circuit. Not sure they are the buy in types.
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Post by Yotes on Jan 5, 2022 20:42:42 GMT
It was the easy thing to do but not the right one.. black and Doucet are cowards end of! The cowardly, easy thing to do would be to do nothing. If Doucet genuinely believes in the lineup he's assembled, then he has to back it and believe they need to be better coached. If the new guy can't get a tune out of them either, then Doucet will get sacked in the summer. Wallace is no loss. |
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Post by jd on Jan 5, 2022 20:53:50 GMT
Who do we reckon will be the new coach then?
Any chance of Adey filling the gap?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2022 20:55:13 GMT
It was the easy thing to do but not the right one.. black and Doucet are cowards end of! The cowardly, easy thing to do would be to do nothing. If Doucet genuinely believes in the lineup he's assembled, then he has to back it and believe they need to be better coached. If the new guy can't get a tune out of them either, then Doucet will get sacked in the summer. Wallace is no loss. Doucet ain't no loss too.. 40k a year being swizzled up the wall! |
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Post by Discoray on Jan 5, 2022 20:55:52 GMT
Any chance of Adey filling the gap? If he's sane and sensible, then absolutely no way. |
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Post by jd on Jan 5, 2022 20:59:54 GMT
Hahahaha very true.
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Post by iginla on Jan 5, 2022 21:04:26 GMT
Any chance of Adey filling the gap? If he's sane and sensible, then absolutely no way. He might with GM no longer there. But he’d still have to be pretty desperate to want it. |
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Post by Yotes on Jan 5, 2022 21:08:29 GMT
Doucet ain't no loss too.. 40k a year being swizzled up the wall! And if we don't now improve, he'll go too in the summer, that's pretty obvious. |
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Post by iginla on Jan 5, 2022 21:28:13 GMT
When Austin told me of this firing it really was disheartening! I watched every game during the elite series and although I scratched my head at times it did seem to me that Wallace knew what buttons to push and when to push them. He took a group of guys who were not the most talented and molded them into a Championship team. He consistently put the players in the right positions and at the right time. He got the most out of each player by allowing them to play within themselves and not try to do to much. And he pushed his players out of their comfort zone when they needed to. He and Doucet brought in the right guys and defined their roles. And they accepted them. I know a lot of the guys that were brought in this year from the NCAA circuit. Not sure they are the buy in types. And yet whilst that elite series team wasn’t the greatest it was a better team than the poor hand Wallace got dealt to him this year to play with in a league which is generally of a better all round standard than the elite series was. They fired the wrong guy,it should have been Doucet. It would be interesting to know who recruited Austin,was it Doucet or Wallace ? |
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jan 5, 2022 22:09:30 GMT
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Post by ant on Jan 5, 2022 22:51:43 GMT
He certainly isn't top level but we all know it's a smokescreen. Scapegoat for an asset stripping owner. Go Neil, just go!
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Post by jd on Jan 5, 2022 23:07:32 GMT
The cowardly, easy thing to do would be to do nothing. If Doucet genuinely believes in the lineup he's assembled, then he has to back it and believe they need to be better coached. If the new guy can't get a tune out of them either, then Doucet will get sacked in the summer. Wallace is no loss. Doucet ain't no loss too.. 40k a year being swizzled up the wall! Where has this 40k a year come from? How do we know GD is on that? |
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Post by iginla on Jan 5, 2022 23:16:29 GMT
Doucet ain't no loss too.. 40k a year being swizzled up the wall! Where has this 40k a year come from? How do we know GD is on that? We don’t but he’s got to be on £25k you’d think,plus his other travel and housing costs etc so it’s probably not an unrealistic figure. And it’s all a complete waste of money. |
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Post by Mark on Jan 5, 2022 23:45:58 GMT
Wallace an obvious scapegoat. Interesting to see what happens now. If things don't improve Doucet, and especially Black are running out of places to hide.
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Post by kievthegreat on Jan 6, 2022 0:04:01 GMT
When Austin told me of this firing it really was disheartening! I watched every game during the elite series and although I scratched my head at times it did seem to me that Wallace knew what buttons to push and when to push them. He took a group of guys who were not the most talented and molded them into a Championship team. He consistently put the players in the right positions and at the right time. He got the most out of each player by allowing them to play within themselves and not try to do to much. And he pushed his players out of their comfort zone when they needed to. He and Doucet brought in the right guys and defined their roles. And they accepted them. I know a lot of the guys that were brought in this year from the NCAA circuit. Not sure they are the buy in types. Welcome back! I do think Wallace clearly had something about him to win the Elite Series. The team bought in, grew and improved steadily before wiping the floor with Coventry and Sheffield. I think he's been somewhat unfortunate with this team as he's being asked to do more with less IMO. I think the problems are with the roster (and higher up), but that's not his responsibility. Interesting to see if everyone you talk about buys in for the new coach (whenever he arrives). Looks like Austin and Stjernen are having a decent time of it. |
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Post by Robbie Nud on Jan 6, 2022 9:10:34 GMT
Key quote for me: "We're spending cap, just like they are (Cardiff/Belfast/Sheffield)". Signing his own P45? I was surprised he said that because yes shot himself in the foot there. Both feet in fact. 🙄 I think he says ' We've a spending cap' |
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Post by bobness on Jan 6, 2022 9:15:35 GMT
It was the easy thing to do but not the right one.. black and Doucet are cowards end of! The cowardly, easy thing to do would be to do nothing. If Doucet genuinely believes in the lineup he's assembled, then he has to back it and believe they need to be better coached. If the new guy can't get a tune out of them either, then Doucet will get sacked in the summer. Excellent post. Like it or not, something had to give, and it generally works up from the bottom, which is unfortunate for Tim, however you view his coaching. Elite series, the team got better and better, as was the general trend in 19/20. This year, the results have been almost the opposite. We can only hope what happened to Forest happens to Panthers. A change of coach working wonders. Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2022 9:23:09 GMT
The difference is Steve Cooper is being given the tools to succeed.. in his case Dane Murphy .. panthers next coach will be expected to polish a turd!
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Post by bobness on Jan 6, 2022 9:35:02 GMT
The difference is Steve Cooper is being given the tools to succeed.. in his case Dane Murphy .. panthers next coach will be expected to polish a turd! Same players, different coach, massively changed results, that was my point. Most Forest fans thought their players were turds after 8 games this season. Results are somewhat different now. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2022 9:39:23 GMT
The difference is Steve Cooper is being given the tools to succeed.. in his case Dane Murphy .. panthers next coach will be expected to polish a turd! Same players, different coach, massively changed results, that was my point. Most Forest fans thought their players were turds after 8 games this season. Results are somewhat different now. Most forest fans thought the coach was the problem...not utilising his players correctly.. the quality of players has never been a issue at forest this year.. |
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Post by iginla on Jan 6, 2022 9:43:23 GMT
The difference is Steve Cooper is being given the tools to succeed.. in his case Dane Murphy .. panthers next coach will be expected to polish a turd! Not quite sure I fully agree on that one. You might just find Black finds the cash and Doucet fishes for and signs a couple of decent looking players to try save their faces. Of course that would be in the same very difficult and dry market where they’ve been saying for three months that there weren’t any players ! 🤔 |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2022 9:50:34 GMT
I genuinely don't think that Doucet has the contacts mate. Even on the off chance black and his Muppet pull a rabbit out of the hat it totally undermines Wallace almost that they didn't trust him!
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Post by floridadad on Jan 6, 2022 11:18:20 GMT
It would be interesting to know who recruited Austin,was it Doucet or Wallace ? Austin had conversations with both of them. His last conversation was with Wallace and he got a good feeling about how he would be used and his role on the team! |
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