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Post by GuinnessMan on May 30, 2012 21:40:32 GMT
Looks like you've got it spot on Abi
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Post by GuinnessMan on May 30, 2012 19:34:45 GMT
With all this league malarkey, has no-one looked at Panthers OS tonight? MORE SIGNING NEWS THIS WEEK
The GMB Panthers are so close to being in a position to make some more signing news that the club is confident enough to predict there will definitely be something new for the fans this week.
A club spokeswoman told the wesbite today : "What with the league meeting and some solid sponsorship progress this week it has been very busy but along the way there has been progress on the signing front too. I've spoken with the people in charge and they reckon several deals are about to come good and we will have news before the end of the week if not before.
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Post by GuinnessMan on May 30, 2012 13:19:08 GMT
It doesn't sound like it will for us then Lee. Maybe it will for the the other top clubs if they splash the cash, and possibly the lower end clubs getting in some cheaper imports due to the lack of availability of decent Brits.
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Post by GuinnessMan on May 30, 2012 13:11:22 GMT
One thought/question ... could the league winner actually be a team that doesn't top a conference? eg within Conf.A, team X has the best record against their opponents inthat conf, and win conf TeamX - P32 W20 L12 pts40 TeamY - P32 W19 L13 pts38 but in 'league', with a better record against the alt conference sides TeamX - P52 W35 L17 pts70 TeamY - P52 W36 L16 pts72 seems a feasible this could actually happen (and it probably would be Panthers that win their Conference, but then lose the league due to those pesky Scots!) Just asked Simsey his view on this, and his take is that points from ALL games will count toward the each conference table and the league. So in the above scenario Team Y will win the Conference. That just seems wrong to me.
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Post by GuinnessMan on May 30, 2012 13:06:58 GMT
have you accounted for home and away in that NP?
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Post by GuinnessMan on May 30, 2012 12:26:25 GMT
Taken from slapshotscotland.com/ showing how the scottish teams performed against each other last season TEAM GP W L PTS 1 Braehead Clan 18 12 6 25 2 Edinburgh Capitals 18 10 8 22 3 Dundee Stars 18 9 9 19 4 Fife Flyers 18 5 13 13
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Post by GuinnessMan on May 30, 2012 12:20:45 GMT
Changes were needed,playoffs now become the focus which is how it should be as per all major leagues. How are the playoffs the focus when nearly everyone qualifies and they only take a few games to win? I cannot get my head around that either gump.
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Post by GuinnessMan on May 30, 2012 12:11:20 GMT
... as it stands its simply the team with most points will win the league.
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Post by GuinnessMan on May 30, 2012 10:34:47 GMT
One thought/question ... could the league winner actually be a team that doesn't top a conference? eg within Conf.A, team X has the best record against their opponents inthat conf, and win conf TeamX - P32 W20 L12 pts40 TeamY - P32 W19 L13 pts38 but in 'league', with a better record against the alt conference sides TeamX - P52 W35 L17 pts70 TeamY - P52 W36 L16 pts72
seems a feasible this could actually happen (and it probably would be Panthers that win their Conference, but then lose the league due to those pesky Scots!)
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Post by GuinnessMan on May 30, 2012 10:24:09 GMT
Suggestions from the clubs is that under this new format, it will be even more difficult to win 'the league', so if that does seem to be the general concencus, then IF Panthers do actually win it, then it seems to me '1956' can be well and truely buried.
If a tier 2 side end up winning it, unfortunately for them, it will be seen as a sham by most, because of the easier route available to picking up points. Should that actually happen, the 'weighting could be reduced such that you only play 6times against your opponents in your conference, and 4(as-is now proposed) against the alternate conf team. In rounded numbers, under current proposals 61% of points are available from your own conference, whilst under the 6/4 suggestion that would reduces to ~55% ... so still a bit of leg up on 'league' points but not so much.
Under the 6/4proposal league games would then reduce to 44games, thereby freeing ice time for totally independant CC games, and scope for a better Play-off series.
Any logic in that?
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Post by GuinnessMan on May 30, 2012 10:06:36 GMT
Lqast season there was only 25 games on the ST - we had to pay seperately for two league games (that were the sunday games on a double header w/e)
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Post by GuinnessMan on May 30, 2012 10:00:40 GMT
Looking at the financial implications of all this, more games between the likes of the Panthers, Steelers and Blaze is going to increase overall attendances for those clubs, because they'll take reasonable away followings to each other, therefore all of them should see a bit of a boost in their annual income. They're also relatively short journeys so travelling expenses will be reduced. But where do the changes leave the likes of Hull ? With the greatest of respect to them, they must only really stay solvent because of the regular visits of those three listed above, when they get a big away following. They're going to lose some of those fixtures, and it's unlikely that the Scottish teams will bring anywhere near that kind of support down to Humberside. I don't know about expanding the Elite League......I think it's more likely we'll be dropping back to eight teams within a year or two. And another thing........How are the qualifying positions for the play-offs going to be sorted ? The top four from each conference ? Or the top eight points totals, across the two ? Will they merge the two for the Challenge Cup draw, or keep the split for the first stage games ? With regards to Stingrays, it is reported in a couple of places that mileage for league games will increase by just 400miles over the season. If correct that part will have little effect on finances. They will still get 2 visits from each of the 'big' teams from the 'south' conference, so they will be losing out on 5/15 of those games (being replaced by 4 scottish teams). Some of those away supporters may also be like me and not go to every away game, so had the league format not changed it is likely that I would have made only one, perhaps two visits to Hull ...so they will not lose any gate more from me by reducing away games at Hull to 2. Only Hull will know at the end of the season how big an impact the changes have had on their income.
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Post by GuinnessMan on May 30, 2012 5:12:59 GMT
Not sure where i read it - it wasn't either of the above - but that reading said hull and belfast had switched to give hull hope of progressing in the cc cup. However, I'm not sure that wherever i read it is guaranteed any more correct than any readings anywhere else tbh.
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Post by GuinnessMan on May 29, 2012 13:21:23 GMT
Will be interesting to see how this affects players points production in the 'south' conference, not being able to rack them up in as many alternate conference games ... and the other way around probably better points production for the 'north' conference ?
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Post by GuinnessMan on May 29, 2012 6:41:03 GMT
I agree with Shaggy in that something need to be done. Looking at the detail, that would mean, a) within your own conference, you play 32 games; b) against alternate conference, you play 20 games c) a total of 52 games (season ticket will have to then include some non-league games) d) that is a split of 61.5% v 38.5% in points make up - that doesn't sound too bad, but would certainly benefit the strongest club in the weakest league. Too much, maybe?
An alternative may be to make it 6 games against team within own conference, and 4 against opposing conference teams. That would give a 44 game league, with a conference split of points at 54.5% to 45.5%. Would that be a fairer split? That would/could open up more game time availability for a better play-off system?
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Post by GuinnessMan on May 28, 2012 19:12:06 GMT
Think i saw fife tweet saying they are making a signing announcement this week.
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Post by GuinnessMan on May 24, 2012 6:13:50 GMT
Well happy.
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Post by GuinnessMan on May 23, 2012 6:03:26 GMT
My instinct says Fox.
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Post by GuinnessMan on May 22, 2012 18:41:33 GMT
As the title says , any guesses ? Im going for a returnee One from Benny, Foxy, Franny or DAB Would take all of those back in a blink of an eye.
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Post by GuinnessMan on May 21, 2012 21:16:07 GMT
jeff mason has gone to Norway.
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Post by GuinnessMan on May 21, 2012 21:14:41 GMT
jeff hutchins name seems in the frame.
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Post by GuinnessMan on May 21, 2012 20:17:53 GMT
Seems it's true. Paul Ragan is very disappointed according to his twitter. Are you disappointed thats he's disappointed? ;D
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Post by GuinnessMan on May 19, 2012 8:27:29 GMT
that makes sense Lee
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Post by GuinnessMan on May 18, 2012 21:50:24 GMT
Glad things are progressing for the Stingrays. Hoping they will have a stable and sustainable club for many years to come.
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Post by GuinnessMan on May 18, 2012 21:40:07 GMT
Well pleased. Rate him highly.
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