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Post by Yotes on Aug 27, 2017 19:53:45 GMT
Champions Hockey League, Group F / 2 September 2017, 7.00pm     Twitter: NPHockeyLive / TV: Premier SportsGame Notes 0-2, 2-0, 2-0. Mokshantsev (2), Brown and Lachowicz for Panthers. Moser and Ebbett for Bern. Panthers move to top of the group with 2 rounds remaining. Game Sheet. |
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Post by John Casey on Aug 27, 2017 21:24:12 GMT
I'm hoping that Bern may feel the need to rest all their star players for this one.
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Post by tootootrain on Aug 28, 2017 8:26:15 GMT
I'm taking my brother to this one and it'll be his first Panthers game (indeed first time watching any British ice hockey).
I hope he doesn't think it's too bad compared to his usual diet of NHL hockey, what with him being a Red Wings season ticket holder. I grew to like it eventually...
Got some seats right behind the away bench. He couldn't believe the price is the same no matter where you sit in the block.
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Post by iginla on Aug 28, 2017 9:32:28 GMT
I'm hoping that Bern may feel the need to rest all their star players for this one. Haha that would be fun to watch. Panthers v two forwards a Dman and a back up goalie ! 😂😂 |
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Post by PantherB on Aug 28, 2017 13:24:17 GMT
Had a look at ticket sales for the game, about 20-30 sold in Block 2, but the entirety of Block 3 is either sold or not on sale?
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Post by iginla on Aug 28, 2017 13:40:01 GMT
Had a look at ticket sales for the game, about 20-30 sold in Block 2, but the entirety of Block 3 is either sold or not on sale? Yes indeed. Sorry to see,so far it looks like being a poor ish crowd. There is something wrong when Steelers can get 8000 plus for a friendly with Manchester,yet we look like heading for only 3000 ish in probably the most glamorous CHL tie we could have. #ticketprices |
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Post by Shaggy on Aug 28, 2017 14:09:57 GMT
I would imagine that having various people constantly criticising the Panthers for taking part in European competitions, moaning that it's a waste of time & effort, that it diverts energies away from the Holy Grail that is the league title... all of that probably has something to do with it. Constantly hearing that something is crap - sooner or later, if it is repeated often enough people will start to believe it.
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Aug 28, 2017 15:55:28 GMT
Had a look at ticket sales for the game, about 20-30 sold in Block 2, but the entirety of Block 3 is either sold or not on sale? Yes indeed. Sorry to see,so far it looks like being a poor ish crowd. There is something wrong when Steelers can get 8000 plus for a friendly with Manchester,yet we look like heading for only 3000 ish in probably the most glamorous CHL tie we could have. #ticketprices Bern are bringing quite a few over - the city is pretty Hockey mad so no surprise block 3 is sold out. Steelers got 8,000 against Manchester through a good mix of mostly £5 tickets and freebies... The same 'fans' that won't turn up again until another handout is organised! |
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Post by Yotes on Aug 28, 2017 17:00:18 GMT
I would imagine that having various people constantly criticising the Panthers for taking part in European competitions, moaning that it's a waste of time & effort, that it diverts energies away from the Holy Grail that is the league title... all of that probably has something to do with it. Constantly hearing that something is crap - sooner or later, if it is repeated often enough people will start to believe it. There might be one or two with that mindset, but the majority on here has been very positive about our European excursions, I don't think you can lay poor ticket sales at that door. But then neither do I think it all comes down to pricing either. Bern will be the best hockey team we see this year in all likelihood, so a full priced ticket is perfectly reasonable. These things always seem to sell rather badly, there just doesn't seem to be the interest from the wider fanbase for it. Was the same when we hosted the CC the other year, and even the Krefeld game the other night. No idea why, but they just don't seem to catch the imagination for some people. It's a shame because they'll almost certainly be amongst the best games of the year. |
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Post by John Casey on Aug 28, 2017 17:02:38 GMT
I'm hoping that Bern may feel the need to rest all their star players for this one. Haha that would be fun to watch. Panthers v two forwards a Dman and a back up goalie ! 😂😂 Even then I would make Bern favourites over some of the other Elite League teams |
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Post by John Casey on Aug 28, 2017 17:06:07 GMT
I would imagine that having various people constantly criticising the Panthers for taking part in European competitions, moaning that it's a waste of time & effort, that it diverts energies away from the Holy Grail that is the league title... all of that probably has something to do with it. Constantly hearing that something is crap - sooner or later, if it is repeated often enough people will start to believe it. There might be one or two with that mindset, but the majority on here has been very positive about our European excursions, I don't think you can lay poor ticket sales at that door. But then neither do I think it all comes down to pricing either. Bern will be the best hockey team we see this year in all likelihood, so a full priced ticket is perfectly reasonable. These things always seem to sell rather badly, there just doesn't seem to be the interest from the wider fanbase for it. Was the same when we hosted the CC the other year, and even the Krefeld game the other night. No idea why, but they just don't seem to catch the imagination for some people. It's a shame because they'll almost certainly be amongst the best games of the year. One positive of that would be that at least it will be the hardcore supporters there instead of the fans that feel the need to get up from their seats every 5 minutes |
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Post by iginla on Aug 28, 2017 17:24:17 GMT
It is very strange that these big games against quality Euro opposition don't sell very well.
What would the crowd be at the City Gound if Forest were to play say Barcelona or Real Madrid ?
I'm betting it wouldn't be only half full !
Why the difference,it's very odd ?
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Post by panthersdave on Aug 28, 2017 17:28:49 GMT
It is very strange that these big games against quality Euro opposition don't sell very well. What would the crowd be at the City Gound if Forest were to play say Barcelona or Real Madrid ? I'm betting it wouldn't be only half full ! Why the difference,it's very odd ? Because the games against the Steelers and, to a lesser extent, the Blaze are given so much hype. Also less likely to be fighting against a European team (Krefeld excepted) and sadly there are still some who just go for the possibility of a scrap. |
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Post by Bagheera on Aug 28, 2017 17:39:19 GMT
Hockey as a minority sport has quite a strange fan base
Certainly at Panthers. Quite a chunk are Panthers fans but not hockey fans on a wider scale. They turn up to see what they know and are oblivious to anything outside of the EIHL.
It's very rare outside of CC semi finals that any game not on the ST atracts more than 3,000ish. We have seen over time a large chunck of ST holders litterally only turn up for those games they've paid for. They season starts and ends with that ticket.
I think the Cardiff game to open this season only sold so well as it was the first time to see this team. The excitment for people to see Panthers again after a few months off drew a bigger crowd.
Adding to the hockey starting earlier than ever whilst loads are still off on holiday etc the crowd isn't going to be much bigger.
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Post by Pies on Aug 28, 2017 17:40:30 GMT
It is very strange that these big games against quality Euro opposition don't sell very well. What would the crowd be at the City Gound if Forest were to play say Barcelona or Real Madrid ? I'm betting it wouldn't be only half full ! Why the difference,it's very odd ? To the causal fan of hockey, SC Bern will mean nothing but almost everyone I t he world has heard of Real Madrid or Barcelona. I'd love for it to be a massive attendance but no clubs are selling out any arenas I. The CHL |
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Post by ukavsfan on Aug 28, 2017 17:49:30 GMT
FYI this is our 'Feature Game' of the day on the CHL website. So we'll have live morning skate, end of warmup on IG, and I shall be walking around the outside/concourses about an hour before the game looking for victims to talk to!
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Post by iginla on Aug 28, 2017 18:20:50 GMT
It is very strange that these big games against quality Euro opposition don't sell very well. What would the crowd be at the City Gound if Forest were to play say Barcelona or Real Madrid ? I'm betting it wouldn't be only half full ! Why the difference,it's very odd ? To the causal fan of hockey, SC Bern will mean nothing but almost everyone I t he world has heard of Real Madrid or Barcelona. I'd love for it to be a massive attendance but no clubs are selling out any arenas I. The CHL Genuine question and not a dig Pies,as I assume you are a Notts County fan. What was the crowd when County played Juventus in that friendly a couple of years ago ? |
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Post by iginla on Aug 28, 2017 18:23:19 GMT
FYI this is our 'Feature Game' of the day on the CHL website. So we'll have live morning skate, end of warmup on IG, and I shall be walking around the outside/concourses about an hour before the game looking for victims to talk to! Ooh nice. Just don't get Moran on camera please,we see quite enough of that ! 😩 |
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Post by Pies on Aug 28, 2017 20:05:03 GMT
To the causal fan of hockey, SC Bern will mean nothing but almost everyone I t he world has heard of Real Madrid or Barcelona. I'd love for it to be a massive attendance but no clubs are selling out any arenas I. The CHL Genuine question and not a dig Pies,as I assume you are a Notts County fan. What was the crowd when County played tJuventus in that friendly a couple of years ago ? a I honestly couldn't tell you! |
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Post by nottssogood on Aug 29, 2017 0:58:51 GMT
Hockey as a minority sport has quite a strange fan base Certainly at Panthers. Quite a chunk are Panthers fans but not hockey fans on a wider scale. They turn up to see what they know and are oblivious to anything outside of the EIHL. It's very rare outside of CC semi finals that any game not on the ST atracts more than 3,000ish. We have seen over time a large chunck of ST holders litterally only turn up for those games they've paid for. They season starts and ends with that ticket. I think the Cardiff game to open this season only sold so well as it was the first time to see this team. The excitment for people to see Panthers again after a few months off drew a bigger crowd. Adding to the hockey starting earlier than ever whilst loads are still off on holiday etc the crowd isn't going to be much bigger. |
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Post by Shaggy on Aug 29, 2017 7:49:36 GMT
It is very strange that these big games against quality Euro opposition don't sell very well. What would the crowd be at the City Gound if Forest were to play say Barcelona or Real Madrid ? I'm betting it wouldn't be only half full ! Why the difference,it's very odd ? To the causal fan of hockey, SC Bern will mean nothing but almost everyone I t he world has heard of Real Madrid or Barcelona. I'd love for it to be a massive attendance but no clubs are selling out any arenas I. The CHL You're not wrong there... the attendance for the Bern game was 6000-something, which is pitiful compared to their normal numbers, and the attendance at Mountfield was announced as 3220. OK, that might be a little more understandable, seeing as in both cases they were facing 'lesser' opposition compared to what they are used to... but you'd have thought that the novelty factor (and the chance to see their team absolutely hammer someone - or so they thought!  ) might cancel out some of that. Apparently not... |
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Post by iginla on Aug 29, 2017 9:01:15 GMT
By the same token though,if their crowds are down because of perceived lesser quality opposition,ours should be well up by virtue of top quality opposition. 🤔
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Post by Pies on Aug 29, 2017 10:09:23 GMT
By the same token though,if their crowds are down because of perceived lesser quality opposition,ours should be well up by virtue of top quality opposition. 🤔 But only if your knowledge base knows that they're a big team. Panthers maybe need to sell that information better! |
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Post by Rob Scott on Aug 29, 2017 10:22:29 GMT
Worth keeping an eye out for number 56 on Saturday. Maxim Noreau. Absolutely deadly on the PP. Think he finished 1+2 in the away game.
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Post by iginla on Aug 29, 2017 10:43:58 GMT
By the same token though,if their crowds are down because of perceived lesser quality opposition,ours should be well up by virtue of top quality opposition. 🤔 But only if your knowledge base knows that they're a big team. Panthers maybe need to sell that information better! I think you are spot on there. I've not seen much hype to be honest in the wider media. Don't agree with ticket prices being as high as they are though. I'd say £10 a ticket would be fair,get 5-6000 in and show Europe what we can do would be the way to go. |
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) might cancel out some of that. Apparently not...