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Post by Higgy on Jun 28, 2008 17:08:24 GMT
England wont win a major tournament until we learn to play the ball on the floor, be comfortable with the ball at our feet and have a bit of a flair in the team...which right now with the exception of a few players we dont.
I think the decison to ban under 8 leagues and focus on ball skills more is at last a step in the right direction.
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Post by Adam on Jun 29, 2008 21:02:43 GMT
How on earth do Germany do it? They were nothing short of abysmal tonight and still won 3 - 2. Mertersacker and Metzelder are surely not the 2 best centre backs Germany have? Lehmann also showed why Arsenal are better off without him. Flapped at almost everything. Torsten Frings and Michael Ballack are just about their saving graces. Is it me or is it just ironic that Germany produced their best performance of the tournament against Portugal when Joachim Loew was suspended and Hansi Flick ran the bench? I shouldn't complain as I am still on for a weigh in, but on that performance my betting slip should be in with the rest of the rubbish. Its the signs of a very good team, to play bad and win, their name is on the cup i think now. WRONG AGAIN!!THE SPANISH JUST MURDERED THE GERMANS!!!!!!!!CHAMPIONS!
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Post by dms41853 on Jun 29, 2008 21:24:42 GMT
Justice Has been done.
the best team won, not just on the night but over the whole tournament. i bet they're so glad to finally get over the bottling they have done in the past lets hope panthers follow suit in the league next season.
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Post by Higgy on Jun 29, 2008 21:41:13 GMT
jesus christ Spain have won something...i need a lie down...deserved it though, well played Espana!
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Post by sunbeam on Jun 29, 2008 21:43:24 GMT
Great result for football. Spain are the best team since Brazil in 2002 or even France in 2000. They played a brand of football we can only dream of. Of course England's excuse is that the EPL has too many foreign players. Spain have just blown that excuse right out of the water.
The best league in the world finally has a trophy it deserves. First time since 64 they've won something. Now then..... who won the world cup 2 years later........??
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Post by Adam on Jun 29, 2008 23:50:24 GMT
Final Standings1 Ooijer Time Adam Gregory 288 2 Gedling Giants Richard Bullock 257 3 Ninja Death Stars Richard Short 249 4 Team Supreme Peter Rodgers 245 5 poteyed panthers andrew mosson 243 6 LUFC New Beginning James Dutka 231 7 Team Martinski Martin Geeson 226 8 DonHigson Utd Tom Higson 218 9 midfield mafia sean gregory 194 10 P.G.F.I's Euro Utd. Andrew Sheard 185 11 bridgford bulldogs dave spence 175 12 Wigwam's WALES Tony Pearce 132 13 Tormentua Andrew Warren 114 ..Thanks for trying to beat me guys!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2008 8:40:25 GMT
Of course England's excuse is that the EPL has too many foreign players. Spain have just blown that excuse right out of the water. The best league in the world finally has a trophy it deserves. First time since 64 they've won something. Now then..... who won the world cup 2 years later........?? What absolute tosh !!! How many foreigners (naff at that) do the EPL have .. and how many do the primier liga have , they ve always had mainly spanish players and still failed , only up until last couple of years where some of there players have started playing abroad. IT IS THE MAIN REASON WHY THE ENGLAND TEAM ARE PANTS !!!, it will never change , not even Capello will change it . Spain did deserve to win last night.... but on the other hand German had a moderate team for their high standards .. and still mad3e a final... !!!! my hat off to them too .
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Post by sunbeam on Jun 30, 2008 13:18:34 GMT
Of course England's excuse is that the EPL has too many foreign players. Spain have just blown that excuse right out of the water. The best league in the world finally has a trophy it deserves. First time since 64 they've won something. Now then..... who won the world cup 2 years later........?? What absolute tosh !!! How many foreigners (naff at that) do the EPL have .. and how many do the primier liga have , they ve always had mainly spanish players and still failed , only up until last couple of years where some of there players have started playing abroad. IT IS THE MAIN REASON WHY THE ENGLAND TEAM ARE PANTS !!!, it will never change , not even Capello will change it . Spain did deserve to win last night.... but on the other hand German had a moderate team for their high standards .. and still mad3e a final... !!!! my hat off to them too . You actually think the Spanish league is full of Spanish footballers? Now that's comedy.
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Post by Adam on Jun 30, 2008 14:33:06 GMT
What absolute tosh !!! How many foreigners (naff at that) do the EPL have .. and how many do the primier liga have , they ve always had mainly spanish players and still failed , only up until last couple of years where some of there players have started playing abroad. IT IS THE MAIN REASON WHY THE ENGLAND TEAM ARE PANTS !!!, it will never change , not even Capello will change it . Spain did deserve to win last night.... but on the other hand German had a moderate team for their high standards .. and still mad3e a final... !!!! my hat off to them too . You actually think the Spanish league is full of Spanish footballers? Now that's comedy. Was thinking the same.. They must of the most South Americans playing there than anywhere else in europe.
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Post by Higgy on Jun 30, 2008 20:09:36 GMT
What absolute tosh !!! How many foreigners (naff at that) do the EPL have .. and how many do the primier liga have , they ve always had mainly spanish players and still failed , only up until last couple of years where some of there players have started playing abroad. IT IS THE MAIN REASON WHY THE ENGLAND TEAM ARE PANTS !!!, it will never change , not even Capello will change it . Spain did deserve to win last night.... but on the other hand German had a moderate team for their high standards .. and still mad3e a final... !!!! my hat off to them too . You actually think the Spanish league is full of Spanish footballers? Now that's comedy. There a lot less than the Premier League, foreigners i mean not Spaniads
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Post by Milkman™ on Jul 1, 2008 17:15:42 GMT
20 out of 28 in the Barca squad are foreigners (4 Spaniards usually start) 17 out of 28 in the Real Madrid squad are foreigners 18 out of 31 in the Villareal squad are foreigners
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Post by sunbeam on Jul 2, 2008 13:11:56 GMT
20 out of 28 in the Barca squad are foreigners (4 Spaniards usually start) 17 out of 28 in the Real Madrid squad are foreigners 18 out of 31 in the Villareal squad are foreigners IIRC about 45% of La Liga is foreign compared to 55% of the EPL. Of course that 55% includes Scots, Welsh and Irish. La Liga is loaded with foreign players. It's also nonesense to suggest that the Spanish are now successful because their players have moved abroad. Torres has had one season in England and Fabregas was only a super sub for most of the games. England are going to struggle until the fans accept players passing backwards and emphasising ball possession. Next time you see a English club game try this: Once a team gets the ball see if you can then count to 15 seconds before the team gives the ball away. Normally they misplace a pass and the opposition take over for a few seconds....
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Post by Milkman™ on Jul 2, 2008 18:17:34 GMT
Couldn't agree more, its the same sort of nonsense that would suggest Greece are a force to be reckoned with.
Spain had a good tournament, end of, I dont see them been world champions any time soon (like England)
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Post by sunbeam on Jul 3, 2008 22:13:54 GMT
Spain are just about the best team in the world now. Them and ARG look the best bet for 2010.
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