Milkman™
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Post by Milkman™ on Mar 24, 2008 9:49:34 GMT
No-one made a real claim they just turned and skated back down the ice and normally the players make strong claims for possible goals. You make a very valid point Spence, the reaction of the players is usually a very god indicator in cases like this, a half hearted shout, opposed to the whole team having a go.
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Post by dd on Mar 24, 2008 12:04:30 GMT
Fankhouser was at the extreme left side of the net facing left and all the Panthers' players were on the left too, they wouldn't have seen the puck drop, neither did the couple of Phoenix players who were skating towards that side. I think Hicks was on the left too so he would not have had a clear view.
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Post by dms41853 on Mar 24, 2008 12:31:25 GMT
Fankhouser was at the extreme left side of the net facing left and all the Panthers' players were on the left too, they wouldn't have seen the puck drop, neither did the couple of Phoenix players who were skating towards that side. I think Hicks was on the left too so he would not have had a clear view. But surely nelson/neilson (not sure who took the shot) would've claimed but they didn't i agree the others wouldn't have had a good view but the one that took the shot had clearest view and never claimed just went back on the D.
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Post by Yotes on Mar 24, 2008 14:17:36 GMT
Fankhouser was at the extreme left side of the net facing left and all the Panthers' players were on the left too, they wouldn't have seen the puck drop, neither did the couple of Phoenix players who were skating towards that side. I think Hicks was on the left too so he would not have had a clear view. But surely nelson/neilson (not sure who took the shot) would've claimed but they didn't i agree the others wouldn't have had a good view but the one that took the shot had clearest view and never claimed just went back on the D. I wonder how much it'd cost to install in-net cameras, to allow the ref a second look at it at the ref's bench, as a low rent version of what the NHL does? We've had a few this year, both for and against, that were dubious and all teams have to record the game anyway don't they?
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Post by Higgy on Mar 24, 2008 14:45:30 GMT
But surely nelson/neilson (not sure who took the shot) would've claimed but they didn't i agree the others wouldn't have had a good view but the one that took the shot had clearest view and never claimed just went back on the D. I wonder how much it'd cost to install in-net cameras, to allow the ref a second look at it at the ref's bench, as a low rent version of what the NHL does? We've had a few this year, both for and against, that were dubious and all teams have to record the game anyway don't they? Its the obvious answer but its UK hockey so im not holding my breath
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Post by dms41853 on Mar 24, 2008 14:59:21 GMT
I wonder how much it'd cost to install in-net cameras, to allow the ref a second look at it at the ref's bench, as a low rent version of what the NHL does? We've had a few this year, both for and against, that were dubious and all teams have to record the game anyway don't they? Its the obvious answer but its UK hockey so im not holding my breath Sorry to refer to footy, but they haven't introduced goal line technology yet so i agree with higgy not worth holding my breath. Its also not good that fans wouldn't get to see the replay as we have no big screen! Even in ECHL game i went to see they had one and would replay all the goals major incidents etc made it so much better but hey if it costs money it aint gonna happen!
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Post by ted on Mar 24, 2008 16:12:02 GMT
But surely nelson/neilson (not sure who took the shot) would've claimed but they didn't i agree the others wouldn't have had a good view but the one that took the shot had clearest view and never claimed just went back on the D. I wonder how much it'd cost to install in-net cameras, to allow the ref a second look at it at the ref's bench, as a low rent version of what the NHL does? We've had a few this year, both for and against, that were dubious and all teams have to record the game anyway don't they? I seem to remember hearing that the actual box to mount the camera in usually costs more than a high end camera (cos of the gyros and all that)
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Post by Gilly on Mar 24, 2008 16:50:29 GMT
i agree with the majority i sit on the first row in block 10 behind the goal and i didnt think any of them went in 2bh we were just extremely unlucky
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Post by Mark Mac on Mar 24, 2008 17:31:45 GMT
Like I said boy You started that football comparison not me, I'll ask again can you show me the thread where I start the football comparisons. And once again for you, your quote starting the football analogies lets see, rugby union, cricket, ice hockey, and some football stadiums, but doesnt mean you dont want to beat them just now and then people need to remove the superfan glasses and appreciate the quality of the opposition, a bit like the saracens fans had to against the mighty Ospreys yesterday! ;D Oh god do you ever stop?!?!
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Post by iginla on Mar 24, 2008 20:16:51 GMT
For anyone who doubts whether we shud have a goal camera check this out. Go on utube and type in 'martin v trencin'....unbelievable goal. This is Robbie Stancoks old team in overtime in the deciding game 5 of the play offs. What a way to go out or what,imagine if that was panthers in the play off final and the ref got it wrong cos there was no camera !!!!!
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Post by Yotes on Mar 24, 2008 21:44:08 GMT
For anyone who doubts whether we shud have a goal camera check this out. Go on utube and type in 'martin v trencin'....unbelievable goal. This is Robbie Stancoks old team in overtime in the deciding game 5 of the play offs. What a way to go out or what,imagine if that was panthers in the play off final and the ref got it wrong cos there was no camera !!!!! Iggy's vidIt was that kind of overhead camera I meant, fixed position sort of thing. BTW, did they give that goal in the end?
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Post by Alf Garnett on Mar 24, 2008 21:54:05 GMT
All of the puck over all of the line?
Watched it 3 times and still couldn't make a definite decision.
Who'd be a stripey?
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Post by iginla on Mar 24, 2008 22:51:50 GMT
That goal was given and knocked Martin HC out of the slovak play offs in overtime of game 5 in a best of 5 game series. Oh boy, what a way to go and who would be that poor goalie !!!!
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Post by spik on Mar 25, 2008 10:35:41 GMT
FINAL Scorers stats (top lucky 7)
Adam Calder COV 54 49 56 105 Peter Campbell BEL/BAS 51 39 52 91 Dan Carlson COV 54 24 65 89 Greg Chambers BAS 54 35 47 82 Joe Tallari MAN 51 46 35 81 Sean McAslan NOT 54 35 45 80 Ed Courtenay BEL 51 23 57 80
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Post by spik on Mar 25, 2008 10:37:09 GMT
Top 10 Brits in the league
Tony Hand MAN 53 21 51 72 2 2 50 9th Colin Shields NEW 47 30 31 61 8 1 4 4 18 =14th Ashley Tait SHE 47 28 33 61 6 4 1 105 =14th David Longstaff NEW 54 17 40 57 3 1 3 110 =19th Greg Owen BAS 53 22 32 54 8 1 30 24th Jonathan Weaver COV 45 13 40 53 8 2 41 25th Russ Cowley COV 53 15 35 50 6 1 3 41 =28th Jonathon Phillips SHE 54 19 30 49 3 1 3 1 64 =31st Shaun Johnson NEW 54 8 16 24 2 2 34 =60th Neil Hay EDI 47 7 17 24 1 1 14 =70th
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Post by spik on Mar 25, 2008 10:38:14 GMT
Netmainders here....(three regular in top 6)
David Lawrence SHE 7 205 97 6 93.8 Trevor Koenig COV 51 3038 1538 111 92.8 Greg Rockman CAR 2 123 67 5 92.5 Geoff Woolhouse NOT 9 430 194 15 92.3 Tom Askey NOT 29 1750 795 62 92.2 Jody Lehman SHE 53 3067 1506 119 92.1
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Post by texpef on Mar 25, 2008 10:39:16 GMT
Key point there Spik as far as panthers are concerned is that we only have one import in the top 10 and NO brits, not a good position as far as league titles are concerned... especially as cov have two imports AND two brits...
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Post by spik on Mar 25, 2008 10:50:28 GMT
Key point there Spik as far as panthers are concerned is that we only have one import in the top 10 and NO brits, not a good position as far as league titles are concerned... especially as cov have two imports AND two brits... Yerr...12th Wally, 28th Molin and Defenceman Corey at 34th place.Bergin pops in at 53rd.
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Post by spik on Mar 25, 2008 10:53:50 GMT
Pims
Andre Payette NEW 50 321 Brad Voth CAR 50 288 Adam Stefishen EDI 54 253 Ryan Shmyr NOT 54 232 Jake Riddle HULL 51 218 Derek Campbell NEW 53 215 Brad Cruikshank BAS 52 203
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Post by sambo79 on Mar 25, 2008 12:44:12 GMT
Those stats say it all - we really really missed David Clarke - he would have definately been up there in the import point scoring - let alone the Brit scoring.
Two key players we never replaced properly - David Clarke and Mike Rees. Our season suffered badly as a result. Let's hope Mike Ellis has learnt from this mistake - we need a Mike Rees, either Colin Shields or Ashley Tait (likelihood almost zero) and a top import to centre Wally and Sean.
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Post by bobness on Mar 25, 2008 13:32:12 GMT
can't the refs give a penalty goal? Answer yes. And I've seen it this year. LA at Vancouver, empty net, last minute, Kings get the Puck and skate up to the empty net. A Canucks D man throws his stick at the LA player (along the ice, that is, not like a javelin) and it puts him off sufficiently to make him miss. The ref awarded a Penalty Goal. I suspect there are other scenarios where this may happen. Some rule reading may illuminate.
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Post by pantherdman on Mar 25, 2008 13:51:42 GMT
Nice one Bobness,
Now you've said it , i think i remember reading that rule regarding throwing of the stick on an empty netter.
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Post by spik on Mar 26, 2008 15:11:47 GMT
I mentioned that throwing of a stick in the last 2 minutes brought what I thought was a Penalty shot.Otherwise I did not know of a penalty goal.
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Post by MP on Mar 26, 2008 23:44:18 GMT
I mentioned that throwing of a stick in the last 2 minutes brought what I thought was a Penalty shot.Otherwise I did not know of a penalty goal. Throwing a stick normaly results in a penalty shot (think it happened in the junior international a year or two back) but in the final two minutes it is a penalty goal I believe. I think there are a number of rule changes that apply during the final two minutes of the game to discourage cheating.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2008 23:48:52 GMT
we should have been rewarded a goal for what happened at the end , theres a rule if it happens in the last minute. Its been the case in a lot of NHL matches this year, and Hicks gave a `goal` at the HOS earlier in the season for a player throwing their stick to stop the puck going in the net , the puck missed but the goal was given as it was in the last minute .... so we were robbed
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