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Post by iginla on Mar 24, 2024 18:04:49 GMT
You can't possibly think Tetlow is on £300 a week... The way iggy slates him you’d think he’s paying us to pay each week Are you saying he’s on more than that or less than that ? I don’t know what he’s on,but based on Kelman’s claim of a couple of years ago that the wage cap was £12,500 a week that’s an average over 20 players of only £625 a week. Now clearly some will be on considerably more than that so it figures that some will be on considerably less. Well I can’t see Tetlow being anywhere other than in the bottom few earners.
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Post by iginla on Mar 24, 2024 18:08:24 GMT
Omar said that and Doucet said it both in interviews a while back. I don’t believe them for a second,but as I’ve already said,that’s why O’Connor,Richardson,Dowd,Hook and Perlini etc are elsewhere,because Panthers have either naffed them off or won’t pay the good money for them. Where are the interviews? Not being awkward, would love to hear them say that. Thanks in advance for the link It’s been quoted on here too before by more than me. You’d have to delve through interviews but it definitely got said.
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Post by jd on Mar 24, 2024 18:12:32 GMT
Where are the interviews? Not being awkward, would love to hear them say that. Thanks in advance for the link It’s been quoted on here too before by more than me. You’d have to delve through interviews but it definitely got said. I’ll try and find it
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Post by iginla on Mar 24, 2024 18:15:40 GMT
It’s been quoted on here too before by more than me. You’d have to delve through interviews but it definitely got said. I’ll try and find it Good. 👍
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Post by jd on Mar 24, 2024 18:19:14 GMT
The way iggy slates him you’d think he’s paying us to pay each week Are you saying he’s on more than that or less than that ? I don’t know what he’s on,but based on Kelman’s claim of a couple of years ago that the wage cap was £12,500 a week that’s an average over 20 players of only £625 a week. Now clearly some will be on considerably more than that so it figures that some will be on considerably less. Well I can’t see Tetlow being anywhere other than in the bottom few earners. Just like you I have no idea what he earns, if the wage cap is £12,500 or even exists. But Sheffield are defo spending more than us this season. Just look at the line up, anyone can see that.
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Post by iginla on Mar 24, 2024 18:27:57 GMT
Are you saying he’s on more than that or less than that ? I don’t know what he’s on,but based on Kelman’s claim of a couple of years ago that the wage cap was £12,500 a week that’s an average over 20 players of only £625 a week. Now clearly some will be on considerably more than that so it figures that some will be on considerably less. Well I can’t see Tetlow being anywhere other than in the bottom few earners. Just like you I have no idea what he earns, if the wage cap is £12,500 or even exists. But Sheffield are defo spending more than us this season. Just look at the line up, anyone can see that. You would think so but from stats and CV’s it doesn’t really look like it,they’re just very solid top to bottom. I’ve only seen one player get much but not a lot of criticism from their fans and that is Saucerman.
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Post by jd on Mar 24, 2024 18:37:07 GMT
Just like you I have no idea what he earns, if the wage cap is £12,500 or even exists. But Sheffield are defo spending more than us this season. Just look at the line up, anyone can see that. You would think so but from stats and CV’s it doesn’t really look like it,they’re just very solid top to bottom. I’ve only seen one player get much but not a lot of criticism from their fans and that is Saucerman. If they’re paying £12,500 a week for that roster then fair play. I just don’t see it. Dowd must be pushing £1000 a week
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Post by iginla on Mar 24, 2024 19:06:19 GMT
You would think so but from stats and CV’s it doesn’t really look like it,they’re just very solid top to bottom. I’ve only seen one player get much but not a lot of criticism from their fans and that is Saucerman. If they’re paying £12,500 a week for that roster then fair play. I just don’t see it. Dowd must be pushing £1000 a week Neither do I,but there was an interview where Kelman said it. The max budget allowed was £12,500 a week and minimum budget was £8000 a week. More than that for Dowd. One of Panthers Brits told me about five years ago he was on £1100 a week even then and O’Connor on more.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Mar 24, 2024 19:33:17 GMT
If they’re paying £12,500 a week for that roster then fair play. I just don’t see it. Dowd must be pushing £1000 a week Neither do I,but there was an interview where Kelman said it. The max budget allowed was £12,500 a week and minimum budget was £8000 a week. More than that for Dowd. One of Panthers Brits told me about five years ago he was on £1100 a week even then and O’Connor on more. Since then pretty much all of the arena grandees (apart from Nottingham) have confirmed that there is no wage cap. Sheffield, Belfast and Cardiff are all spending a lot more than £12,500 a week and Sheffield just extended Dowds contract by two more years too. Pretty sure Dowd is on more than all of the Panthers Brits combined.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Mar 24, 2024 19:37:40 GMT
You would think so but from stats and CV’s it doesn’t really look like it,they’re just very solid top to bottom. I’ve only seen one player get much but not a lot of criticism from their fans and that is Saucerman. If they’re paying £12,500 a week for that roster then fair play. I just don’t see it. Dowd must be pushing £1000 a week Sheffields number one consideration is to pretty near fill their arena every game with ‘paying’ fans and spend what they have to to do that. If your owner is a genuine fan it’s an excellent business model
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Post by jd on Mar 24, 2024 19:46:44 GMT
If they’re paying £12,500 a week for that roster then fair play. I just don’t see it. Dowd must be pushing £1000 a week Sheffields number one consideration is to pretty near fill their arena every game with ‘paying’ fans and spend what they have to to do that. If your owner is a genuine fan it’s an excellent business model One day I hope we get that. Sad that ours isn’t like that
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Post by pantherlee on Mar 24, 2024 20:27:17 GMT
You're quite correct. It doesn't matter. What’s “home” got to do with it ? Nothing in the grand scheme of things but Brits on the whole don’t tend to move around much. They tend to stay put unless they’ve got no choice
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Post by bobness on Mar 25, 2024 9:18:27 GMT
But Sheffield are defo spending more than us this season. Just look at the line up, anyone can see that. Not sure I agree. Steelers don't have anyone with the pedigree of AJ, Caruso or Despres (not a single NHL game on their roster), and don't really have anyone for me, who screams "ridiculously expensive player" or "too good for this league". They've got a roster of all kinds of players with CVs very like Panthers have had in the last few years. Last seasons in Denmark, Finland, Sweden, ECHL etc. Balmas was a great pick up late in the day, he's been a difference maker, as has the "past it" Vallerand. They've built a core of returnees (Neumann, Nevalainen, Ciampini, Allen, Greenfield) and improved the other spots. The difference is, they've all "fired" this year. Not a single dud on their roster. Scoring from all areas, a great D and the best netminder in the league. And they've been largely injury free. That makes a huge difference too. They took us apart on the 27th December, they were superb, the best visiting EIHL performance I've ever seen. You can be bitter all you like, they've been the best team all year.
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Post by bobness on Mar 25, 2024 9:20:00 GMT
Pretty sure Dowd is on more than all of the Panthers Brits combined. Comedy gold.
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Post by Tom on Mar 25, 2024 9:38:11 GMT
But Sheffield are defo spending more than us this season. Just look at the line up, anyone can see that. Not sure I agree. Steelers don't have anyone with the pedigree of AJ, Caruso or Despres (not a single NHL game on their roster), and don't really have anyone for me, who screams "ridiculously expensive player" or "too good for this league". They've got a roster of all kinds of players with CVs very like Panthers have had in the last few years. Last seasons in Denmark, Finland, Sweden, ECHL etc. Balmas was a great pick up late in the day, he's been a difference maker, as has the "past it" Vallerand. They've built a core of returnees (Neumann, Nevalainen, Ciampini, Allen, Greenfield) and improved the other spots. The difference is, they've all "fired" this year. Not a single dud on their roster. Scoring from all areas, a great D and the best netminder in the league. And they've been largely injury free. That makes a huge difference too. They took us apart on the 27th December, they were superb, the best visiting EIHL performance I've ever seen. You can be bitter all you like, they've been the best team all year. If Sheffields roster cost the same as panthers then it proves panthers recruitment policy is shocking and they don't do their due diligence etc. Using injuries is just a excuse , every year panthers have injury issues it ain't bad luck Steelers get bad injuries too but they bring in cover asap to cover these so they ain't playing short.. I've not known them to have one fit import d man on the roster
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Post by iginla on Mar 25, 2024 9:42:33 GMT
But Sheffield are defo spending more than us this season. Just look at the line up, anyone can see that. Not sure I agree. Steelers don't have anyone with the pedigree of AJ, Caruso or Despres (not a single NHL game on their roster), and don't really have anyone for me, who screams "ridiculously expensive player" or "too good for this league". They've got a roster of all kinds of players with CVs very like Panthers have had in the last few years. Last seasons in Denmark, Finland, Sweden, ECHL etc. Balmas was a great pick up late in the day, he's been a difference maker, as has the "past it" Vallerand. They've built a core of returnees (Neumann, Nevalainen, Ciampini, Allen, Greenfield) and improved the other spots. The difference is, they've all "fired" this year. Not a single dud on their roster. Scoring from all areas, a great D and the best netminder in the league. And they've been largely injury free. That makes a huge difference too. They took us apart on the 27th December, they were superb, the best visiting EIHL performance I've ever seen. You can be bitter all you like, they've been the best team all year. You’re spot on there Bob. 👍 Although they did lose Neumann,Jones and Whistle to injuries each for a good while.
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Post by jd on Mar 25, 2024 11:54:48 GMT
But Sheffield are defo spending more than us this season. Just look at the line up, anyone can see that. Not sure I agree. Steelers don't have anyone with the pedigree of AJ, Caruso or Despres (not a single NHL game on their roster), and don't really have anyone for me, who screams "ridiculously expensive player" or "too good for this league". They've got a roster of all kinds of players with CVs very like Panthers have had in the last few years. Last seasons in Denmark, Finland, Sweden, ECHL etc. Balmas was a great pick up late in the day, he's been a difference maker, as has the "past it" Vallerand. They've built a core of returnees (Neumann, Nevalainen, Ciampini, Allen, Greenfield) and improved the other spots. The difference is, they've all "fired" this year. Not a single dud on their roster. Scoring from all areas, a great D and the best netminder in the league. And they've been largely injury free. That makes a huge difference too. They took us apart on the 27th December, they were superb, the best visiting EIHL performance I've ever seen. You can be bitter all you like, they've been the best team all year. No bitterness from me at all, just jealous they have an owner who will make sure they're always competing. Vallerand is a quality player, always scores, 239 points in 200 games in the EIHL. Has scored 34, 26, 26 and 24 goals so far in full seasons here. Watling was such a good pickup, Balmas i would guess has exceeded expectations, Saucerman, Juusola, Ciampini has been quality and then you add Dowd. Not forgetting to mention Greenfield, 92.9 SV% and 1.91 GAA. Theyve won 85% of league games. I rate Depres, sadly McGuty, Ryczek and Caruso havent been great imo. Rok has been so inconsistent its unreal, losing Robinson when we did was awful timing. Lemay has scored 9 goals this calendar year. Welsh has been out but has still only scored once. They've given Fox time and the resources. I cant see JP coming back, or Omar (unless NB is happy with the cash he's made). So we could be looking at another rebuild but with the one person staying who I'd love to leave. AJ's death was horrific and has had a massive influence on this team, no doubt - how Otto has kept playing is beyond me. But we've been stale for years and until Neil goes I cant see that changing.
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Post by iginla on Mar 25, 2024 12:28:56 GMT
Not sure I agree. Steelers don't have anyone with the pedigree of AJ, Caruso or Despres (not a single NHL game on their roster), and don't really have anyone for me, who screams "ridiculously expensive player" or "too good for this league". They've got a roster of all kinds of players with CVs very like Panthers have had in the last few years. Last seasons in Denmark, Finland, Sweden, ECHL etc. Balmas was a great pick up late in the day, he's been a difference maker, as has the "past it" Vallerand. They've built a core of returnees (Neumann, Nevalainen, Ciampini, Allen, Greenfield) and improved the other spots. The difference is, they've all "fired" this year. Not a single dud on their roster. Scoring from all areas, a great D and the best netminder in the league. And they've been largely injury free. That makes a huge difference too. They took us apart on the 27th December, they were superb, the best visiting EIHL performance I've ever seen. You can be bitter all you like, they've been the best team all year. No bitterness from me at all, just jealous they have an owner who will make sure they're always competing. Vallerand is a quality player, always scores, 239 points in 200 games in the EIHL. Has scored 34, 26, 26 and 24 goals so far in full seasons here. Watling was such a good pickup, Balmas i would guess has exceeded expectations, Saucerman, Juusola, Ciampini has been quality and then you add Dowd. Not forgetting to mention Greenfield, 92.9 SV% and 1.91 GAA. Theyve won 85% of league games. I rate Depres, sadly McGuty, Ryczek and Caruso havent been great imo. Rok has been so inconsistent its unreal, losing Robinson when we did was awful timing. Lemay has scored 9 goals this calendar year. Welsh has been out but has still only scored once. They've given Fox time and the resources. I cant see JP coming back, or Omar (unless NB is happy with the cash he's made). So we could be looking at another rebuild but with the one person staying who I'd love to leave. AJ's death was horrific and has had a massive influence on this team, no doubt - how Otto has kept playing is beyond me. But we've been stale for years and until Neil goes I cant see that changing. Don’t forget Tansey in that Steelers team,it annoys me that the Steelers often find a Dman like that,one who really buys in and is bloody good. Remember the likes of Munn and Bolibruck,even Darling. Sadly I can see Pacha and Parades both coming back next season. It’ll be Groundhog Day again soon enough ! 🙄
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Post by Adam on Mar 25, 2024 12:36:46 GMT
Not sure I agree. Steelers don't have anyone with the pedigree of AJ, Caruso or Despres (not a single NHL game on their roster), and don't really have anyone for me, who screams "ridiculously expensive player" or "too good for this league". They've got a roster of all kinds of players with CVs very like Panthers have had in the last few years. Last seasons in Denmark, Finland, Sweden, ECHL etc. Balmas was a great pick up late in the day, he's been a difference maker, as has the "past it" Vallerand. They've built a core of returnees (Neumann, Nevalainen, Ciampini, Allen, Greenfield) and improved the other spots. The difference is, they've all "fired" this year. Not a single dud on their roster. Scoring from all areas, a great D and the best netminder in the league. And they've been largely injury free. That makes a huge difference too. They took us apart on the 27th December, they were superb, the best visiting EIHL performance I've ever seen. You can be bitter all you like, they've been the best team all year. If Sheffields roster cost the same as panthers then it proves panthers recruitment policy is shocking and they don't do their due diligence etc. Using injuries is just a excuse , every year panthers have injury issues it ain't bad luck Steelers get bad injuries too but they bring in cover asap to cover these so they ain't playing short.. I've not known them to have one fit import d man on the roster Welcome back to the forum, Pidge..
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Post by bobness on Mar 25, 2024 12:48:21 GMT
Not sure I agree. Steelers don't have anyone with the pedigree of AJ, Caruso or Despres (not a single NHL game on their roster), and don't really have anyone for me, who screams "ridiculously expensive player" or "too good for this league". They've got a roster of all kinds of players with CVs very like Panthers have had in the last few years. Last seasons in Denmark, Finland, Sweden, ECHL etc. Balmas was a great pick up late in the day, he's been a difference maker, as has the "past it" Vallerand. They've built a core of returnees (Neumann, Nevalainen, Ciampini, Allen, Greenfield) and improved the other spots. The difference is, they've all "fired" this year. Not a single dud on their roster. Scoring from all areas, a great D and the best netminder in the league. And they've been largely injury free. That makes a huge difference too. They took us apart on the 27th December, they were superb, the best visiting EIHL performance I've ever seen. You can be bitter all you like, they've been the best team all year. You’re spot on there Bob. 👍 Although they did lose Neumann,Jones and Whistle to injuries each for a good while. 13/16/19 games from being "ever present", respectively. And no more than 2 at the same time, although interestingly, Whistle has never been reported as being "reactivated", from being placed on IR on 27 December, but came back to play 2nd February. Also interestingly, Zach Vinnell was intially signed as cover for Jones (9 Dec), then "reallocated" to Whistle (19 Jan), then finally signed as a replacement for Kielly (19 Feb, Kielly having left the Steelers 22 November) so he's played all that time without counting as a roster spot, in 3 different guises. Did someone say "farce"? Steelers have played 49 games, and have 14 players with 44 or more games. Panthers have also played 49, but only 9 with 44+ games. I'm actually surprised it's that many. Panthers have picked from an injury free full squad for 3 (yes, three) games this season, and not since 15 October. And for that game, Henbrant was suspended. So it's only really 2 games all season that Panthers have had a full roster available for selection. That's not posted as any kind of "excuse", just a fact. I wonder what other teams have been like.
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Post by blackandgold73 on Mar 25, 2024 13:01:01 GMT
If Sheffields roster cost the same as panthers then it proves panthers recruitment policy is shocking and they don't do their due diligence etc. Using injuries is just a excuse , every year panthers have injury issues it ain't bad luck Steelers get bad injuries too but they bring in cover asap to cover these so they ain't playing short.. I've not known them to have one fit import d man on the roster Welcome back to the forum, Pidge.. I don't know what you mean 🤔: Username: pidge88 Last Online: 3 hours ago Posts: 1 Registered: 3 hours ago Dates blocked out for data protection reasons
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Post by jd on Mar 25, 2024 13:06:01 GMT
If Sheffields roster cost the same as panthers then it proves panthers recruitment policy is shocking and they don't do their due diligence etc. Using injuries is just a excuse , every year panthers have injury issues it ain't bad luck Steelers get bad injuries too but they bring in cover asap to cover these so they ain't playing short.. I've not known them to have one fit import d man on the roster Welcome back to the forum, Pidge.. Hahahaha I did wonder when he'd be back
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Post by blackandgold73 on Mar 25, 2024 13:10:01 GMT
Welcome back to the forum, Pidge.. Hahahaha I did wonder when he'd be back Who had 'the day after Steelers win the title' in the sweepstake?
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Mar 25, 2024 14:06:11 GMT
You’re spot on there Bob. 👍 Although they did lose Neumann,Jones and Whistle to injuries each for a good while. 13/16/19 games from being "ever present", respectively. And no more than 2 at the same time, although interestingly, Whistle has never been reported as being "reactivated", from being placed on IR on 27 December, but came back to play 2nd February. Also interestingly, Zach Vinnell was intially signed as cover for Jones (9 Dec), then "reallocated" to Whistle (19 Jan), then finally signed as a replacement for Kielly (19 Feb, Kielly having left the Steelers 22 November) so he's played all that time without counting as a roster spot, in 3 different guises. Did someone say "farce"? Steelers have played 49 games, and have 14 players with 44 or more games. Panthers have also played 49, but only 9 with 44+ games. I'm actually surprised it's that many. Panthers have picked from an injury free full squad for 3 (yes, three) games this season, and not since 15 October. And for that game, Henbrant was suspended. So it's only really 2 games all season that Panthers have had a full roster available for selection. That's not posted as any kind of "excuse", just a fact. I wonder what other teams have been like. It's been a bad season for injuries pretty much across the league. Belfast have the usual excellent roster but have been absolutely floored by injuries
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Post by bobness on Mar 25, 2024 14:22:10 GMT
13/16/19 games from being "ever present", respectively. And no more than 2 at the same time, although interestingly, Whistle has never been reported as being "reactivated", from being placed on IR on 27 December, but came back to play 2nd February. Also interestingly, Zach Vinnell was intially signed as cover for Jones (9 Dec), then "reallocated" to Whistle (19 Jan), then finally signed as a replacement for Kielly (19 Feb, Kielly having left the Steelers 22 November) so he's played all that time without counting as a roster spot, in 3 different guises. Did someone say "farce"? Steelers have played 49 games, and have 14 players with 44 or more games. Panthers have also played 49, but only 9 with 44+ games. I'm actually surprised it's that many. Panthers have picked from an injury free full squad for 3 (yes, three) games this season, and not since 15 October. And for that game, Henbrant was suspended. So it's only really 2 games all season that Panthers have had a full roster available for selection. That's not posted as any kind of "excuse", just a fact. I wonder what other teams have been like. It's been a bad season for injuries pretty much across the league. Belfast have the usual excellent roster but have been absolutely floored by injuries According to EP, Giants haven't had a single ever-present player this season. That said, they have signed about 37 imports... I'm joking, it's only been 24.
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