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Post by cooperphil156 on Jun 16, 2023 16:02:20 GMT
Offensive D man signs from German DEL side Schwenninger Wild Wings.
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Post by cooperphil156 on Jun 16, 2023 16:03:42 GMT
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Post by Caesar on Jun 16, 2023 16:14:21 GMT
Signing anyone from the DEL to here is a win
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Jun 16, 2023 16:20:24 GMT
Signing anyone from the DEL to here is a win Dubeau wasn’t a win. However Neill looks a very good pick up, good age, played in some good leagues already and a reliable point scorer. |
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jun 16, 2023 16:30:17 GMT
Signing anyone from the DEL to here is a win Dubeau wasn’t a win. However Neill looks a very good pick up, good age, played in some good leagues already and a reliable point scorer. Dubeau wasn't? |
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Post by wgray on Jun 16, 2023 16:32:15 GMT
Three more defenceman with similar experience to this and I’ll be happy. Welcome Neill
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Post by pantherlee on Jun 16, 2023 16:42:06 GMT
I would call this a stud signing at EIHL level. Last three seasons playing AHL then Austria then DEL and only 26. They’ve done well to get him
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2023 16:44:29 GMT
Three more defenceman with similar experience to this and I’ll be happy. Welcome Neill That's the key no good having one, the defence needs to be stacked and have another 2 at least with his credinials |
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Post by iginla on Jun 16, 2023 16:51:04 GMT
It’s a good looking signing but it isn’t a real stud Dman.
Yes DEL pedigree but 15 games and 1 point split over two clubs isn’t exactly a seasoned pro at that level.
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Post by Jono Bullard on Jun 16, 2023 16:58:13 GMT
It’s a good looking signing but it isn’t a real stud Dman. Yes DEL pedigree but 15 games and 1 point split over two clubs isn’t exactly a seasoned pro at that level.  |
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Post by iginla on Jun 16, 2023 17:27:52 GMT
It’s a good looking signing but it isn’t a real stud Dman. Yes DEL pedigree but 15 games and 1 point split over two clubs isn’t exactly a seasoned pro at that level.  Very good Jonno. Is that a hint that the next player is going to be coming from Egypt ! 🤣 Pmsl |
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Post by Bagheera on Jun 16, 2023 20:50:31 GMT
It's a top, top signing. I see what Iggy is saying. He isn't coming in with bags of experience to quite warrent the stud tag already attached. However he could quite quickly end up showing to be one of the best in the league.
Looks like he can bring offense when playing a step down but not so much when at DEL/AHL level.
Hopefully equates to a solid Dman who can add plenty of secondary scoring in the EIHL.
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Post by iginla on Jun 16, 2023 21:33:23 GMT
It's a top, top signing. I see what Iggy is saying. He isn't coming in with bags of experience to quite warrent the stud tag already attached. However he could quite quickly end up showing to be one of the best in the league. Looks like he can bring offense when playing a step down but not so much when at DEL/AHL level. Hopefully equates to a solid Dman who can add plenty of secondary scoring in the EIHL. I’m putting this one down as a ”Welychka type signing”. |
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Post by Joe on Jun 16, 2023 23:39:31 GMT
Three more defenceman with similar experience to this and I’ll be happy. Welcome Neill That's the key no good having one, the defence needs to be stacked and have another 2 at least with his credinials Yeah great if it happens but expectations should be set in line with the rest of the league and those who have been out performing us in terms of recruitment haven’t been signing 3+ players of that quality for their defence |
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Post by Joe on Jun 16, 2023 23:44:39 GMT
It's a top, top signing. I see what Iggy is saying. He isn't coming in with bags of experience to quite warrent the stud tag already attached. However he could quite quickly end up showing to be one of the best in the league. Looks like he can bring offense when playing a step down but not so much when at DEL/AHL level. Hopefully equates to a solid Dman who can add plenty of secondary scoring in the EIHL. Based on the recruitment of the arena teams last season I wouldn’t say it’s an overhype if people choose to label him a stud |
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Post by samjohnson345 on Jun 17, 2023 8:13:50 GMT
I think this looks an excellent pick up. Great age but has played in strong leagues. Hopefully comes with a point to prove.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2023 9:32:46 GMT
It's not the player, it's the culture these players arrive too.. if they see that things are cushy etc these players with half decent CVs will coast ..
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Post by cooperphil156 on Jun 20, 2023 12:06:51 GMT
It's not the player, it's the culture these players arrive too.. if they see that things are cushy etc these players with half decent CVs will coast .. and of course party! |
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Post by bobness on Jun 20, 2023 12:33:53 GMT
It's not the player, it's the culture these players arrive too.. if they see that things are cushy etc these players with half decent CVs will coast .. Not sure I get that argument. You're only as good as your last season. Let's say I arrive from a decent season in the ECHL, point-a-game, let's say. I get to Nottingham and phone it in from the Legend for 30 points in 60 games. Where does that leave me the next season? Big drop off in point production, and looking at a lower league, or a much harder sell, maybe in a 6-9 role, to an equivalent team? Neither is as good as playing hard and getting the points in the first place? Not many imports score lowly in the EIHL and end up in the DEL2 or ICEHL the season after, for example. Just an opinion I guess. |
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Post by Robbie Nud on Jun 20, 2023 12:38:26 GMT
One advantage is that the legend is now closed so no fawning to get players to frequent the place and end up worse for wear so the patron can have their player fix.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2023 12:55:30 GMT
One advantage is that the legend is now closed so no fawning to get players to frequent the place and end up worse for wear so the patron can have their player fix. Yes could be very telling now... |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2023 13:01:00 GMT
It's not the player, it's the culture these players arrive too.. if they see that things are cushy etc these players with half decent CVs will coast .. Not sure I get that argument. You're only as good as your last season. Let's say I arrive from a decent season in the ECHL, point-a-game, let's say. I get to Nottingham and phone it in from the Legend for 30 points in 60 games. Where does that leave me the next season? Big drop off in point production, and looking at a lower league, or a much harder sell, maybe in a 6-9 role, to an equivalent team? Neither is as good as playing hard and getting the points in the first place? Not many imports score lowly in the EIHL and end up in the DEL2 or ICEHL the season after, for example. Just an opinion I guess. You ain't sure you get the argument..? It's been happening in Nottingham for years and years why else do you think we generally don't win much. Panthers turn good players into average ones.. Josh Shalla prime example.. Last year Andrew Johnston... There's been a lot who come here just to coast because of the easy street lifestyle.. far too much distraction Forget about fancy CVs.. I means nothing when you come to Nottingham lol |
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Post by Joe on Jun 20, 2023 13:21:17 GMT
Not sure I get that argument. You're only as good as your last season. Let's say I arrive from a decent season in the ECHL, point-a-game, let's say. I get to Nottingham and phone it in from the Legend for 30 points in 60 games. Where does that leave me the next season? Big drop off in point production, and looking at a lower league, or a much harder sell, maybe in a 6-9 role, to an equivalent team? Neither is as good as playing hard and getting the points in the first place? Not many imports score lowly in the EIHL and end up in the DEL2 or ICEHL the season after, for example. Just an opinion I guess. You ain't sure you get the argument..? It's been happening in Nottingham for years and years why else do you think we generally don't win much. Panthers turn good players into average ones.. Josh Shalla prime example.. Last year Andrew Johnston... There's been a lot who come here just to coast because of the easy street lifestyle.. far too much distraction Forget about fancy CVs.. I means nothing when you come to Nottingham lol Bobness is right though, if you’re a player that wants to continue playing ice hockey then coasting in any league is not a smart decision because it’s only going to limit your playing options, how much money you can earn and most likely cut your career short |
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jun 20, 2023 13:37:21 GMT
It's not the player, it's the culture these players arrive too.. if they see that things are cushy etc these players with half decent CVs will coast .. Not sure I get that argument. You're only as good as your last season. Let's say I arrive from a decent season in the ECHL, point-a-game, let's say. I get to Nottingham and phone it in from the Legend for 30 points in 60 games. Where does that leave me the next season? Big drop off in point production, and looking at a lower league, or a much harder sell, maybe in a 6-9 role, to an equivalent team? Neither is as good as playing hard and getting the points in the first place? Not many imports score lowly in the EIHL and end up in the DEL2 or ICEHL the season after, for example. Just an opinion I guess. Undoubtedly that does happen sometimes, but the bigger torpedo to the players and the team is absolute crap coaching which immediately shows new players that there is no point putting any effort in at all, terrible housing (in the past, at least), and the general BS culture of the franchise which they would have all seen or heard of before at other teams in other leagues. What other arena team would give a Wallace & Gromit team up the reins in first-time jobs? Who else would take on the idiot gas bag we started last season with NO coaching assistant of any type at all? If players arrive and then have to get over the shock that they have accidentally signed for the ghost of the Capitals, it's no wonder they realize they have made a mistake and slope off to the dingy old pub. Rumour has it (from CN's mouth) that they didn't even have a training session until well into October! Teams lead by example and the example that the Panthers give is that they don't give a damn, the owner can't stand ice hockey, and your shirt at auction is worth more than you are. Hardly a big surprise really is it? Teams in any sport are supported by a few people with very rose-colored specs, but Nottingham really takes the cake. The Panthers are NOT run the same as any other arena franchise and it's the ex-fans that walk away from the place that have finally realized. Nottingham Panthers are the biggest (but shrinking) rink team in the league. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2023 14:16:21 GMT
Not sure I get that argument. You're only as good as your last season. Let's say I arrive from a decent season in the ECHL, point-a-game, let's say. I get to Nottingham and phone it in from the Legend for 30 points in 60 games. Where does that leave me the next season? Big drop off in point production, and looking at a lower league, or a much harder sell, maybe in a 6-9 role, to an equivalent team? Neither is as good as playing hard and getting the points in the first place? Not many imports score lowly in the EIHL and end up in the DEL2 or ICEHL the season after, for example. Just an opinion I guess. Undoubtedly that does happen sometimes, but the bigger torpedo to the players and the team is absolute crap coaching which immediately shows new players that there is no point putting any effort in at all, terrible housing (in the past, at least), and the general BS culture of the franchise which they would have all seen or heard of before at other teams in other leagues. What other arena team would give a Wallace & Gromit team up the reins in first-time jobs? Who else would take on the idiot gas bag we started last season with NO coaching assistant of any type at all? If players arrive and then have to get over the shock that they have accidentally signed for the ghost of the Capitals, it's no wonder they realize they have made a mistake and slope off to the dingy old pub. Rumour has it (from CN's mouth) that they didn't even have a training session until well into October! Teams lead by example and the example that the Panthers give is that they don't give a damn, the owner can't stand ice hockey, and your shirt at auction is worth more than you are. Hardly a big surprise really is it? Teams in any sport are supported by a few people with very rose-colored specs, but Nottingham really takes the cake. The Panthers are NOT run the same as any other arena franchise and it's the ex-fans that walk away from the place that have finally realized. Nottingham Panthers are the biggest (but shrinking) rink team in the league. 💯 |
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