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Post by bobness on Oct 16, 2019 6:55:47 GMT
If it is an announcement of sale (mostly wishful thinking on my part), then that'd go some way to explaining the seemingly reduced playing budget this year - clubs normally trim costs as much as possible during a sale to make it as attractive as possible Yes, 7 straight defeats and 8th in the table make Panthers look like a cracking waste of money at the moment...
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Post by Joe on Oct 16, 2019 7:46:07 GMT
If it is an announcement of sale (mostly wishful thinking on my part), then that'd go some way to explaining the seemingly reduced playing budget this year - clubs normally trim costs as much as possible during a sale to make it as attractive as possible Yes, 7 straight defeats and 8th in the table make Panthers look like a cracking waste of money at the moment... I get your point but it’s often the case in football that when an owner is in the process of selling the club they won’t invest in it because it’s money they won’t recoup
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Post by Yotes on Oct 16, 2019 8:40:30 GMT
Why would they be soliciting questions from the fans if he was going on to announce he's off? You wouldn't need other talking points.
If that is it, we'll have to arrange a party, but sadly it won't be. It'll be him trying to pour oil on the waters, and for a lot of fans it'll work, like it did last year.
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Post by Rob Scott on Oct 16, 2019 8:55:12 GMT
If it is an announcement of sale (mostly wishful thinking on my part), then that'd go some way to explaining the seemingly reduced playing budget this year - clubs normally trim costs as much as possible during a sale to make it as attractive as possible Yes, 7 straight defeats and 8th in the table make Panthers look like a cracking waste of money at the moment... For goodness sake....
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Post by bobness on Oct 16, 2019 9:13:31 GMT
Yes, 7 straight defeats and 8th in the table make Panthers look like a cracking waste of money at the moment... For goodness sake.... Sorry, is my post not to your liking?
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Post by wgray on Oct 16, 2019 11:04:32 GMT
It wouldn’t make sense for him to use a Facebook live interview, with the fans, to announce he’s selling the club, I think we can safely discount that.
I don’t see the point in Black doing this unless he has news of signings. Every question is going to be about: signings, perceived lack of budget, profit over results, ethos of the club.
How can he justify himself on any of these matters without evidence that he’s acted? Yes, the questions will be selected but Ellis is a Panthers fan and he will want to know what is going on, so I wouldn’t be surprised if he puts Black under a bit of pressure.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 11:29:34 GMT
Even though I firmly believe these questions have been pre prepared irrespective of what they keep saying on Twitter about sending your questions in .. but the amount of anger and discontent from fans in practically every question I've seen is challenging Black in some way so I think its inevitable Chris Ellis will ask something which borders on the controversional. Therefore the interview is terminated after 5 mins after Blacky does a runner 😂
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Post by EMB on Oct 16, 2019 11:57:54 GMT
Can't see this being a sale, hell he doesn't have to do anything with this business and the bucks are rolling in. No easier way to be making money it makes itself at panthers
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Oct 16, 2019 12:08:27 GMT
NB selling....
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Post by iginla on Oct 16, 2019 12:46:42 GMT
Why would they be soliciting questions from the fans if he was going on to announce he's off? You wouldn't need other talking points. If that is it, we'll have to arrange a party, but sadly it won't be. It'll be him trying to pour oil on the waters, and for a lot of fans it'll work, like it did last year. Spot on.... It’ll be something like “I can promise you we have given Tim and Gui a very good budget” and all the happy clappers will fall for it like they always do. Then next year will come and we’ll be back here again ! 🙄
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Post by meadow on Oct 16, 2019 12:50:57 GMT
If it is an announcement of sale (mostly wishful thinking on my part), then that'd go some way to explaining the seemingly reduced playing budget this year - clubs normally trim costs as much as possible during a sale to make it as attractive as possible Yes, 7 straight defeats and 8th in the table make Panthers look like a cracking waste of money at the moment... If you're looking to buy and invest long term in a club, you're looking at the long term potential yield and growth of that club - not their results over the first month of the current season. As I said in the relegation thread, the fact that there is no relegation in the EIHL provides a level of cost certainty for the owners which means whatever the current results are, are largely irrelevant. FWIW - I don't think NB will be selling, I was just pointing out that a reduction in playing budget is usually contingent with an owner reducing their spending whilst looking to sell
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Post by EMB on Oct 16, 2019 12:52:22 GMT
NB does not know what the questions are and he hasn't vetted them. He knows what to expect or he wouldn't have asked for an interview, but as you say he's going to have some answers at the ready, same old same old. bit like a politician really, never get a straight answer.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 12:53:16 GMT
Why would they be soliciting questions from the fans if he was going on to announce he's off? You wouldn't need other talking points. If that is it, we'll have to arrange a party, but sadly it won't be. It'll be him trying to pour oil on the waters, and for a lot of fans it'll work, like it did last year. Spot on.... It’ll be something like “I can promise you we have given Tim and Gui a very good budget” and all the happy clappers will fall for it like they always do. Then next year will come and we’ll be back here again ! 🙄 Well it will goes one of two ways.. he will say he gave them a good budget but anyone who's looked at the players and quality will then assume its total BS or think that tim and Gui have swizzled it up the wall.. Btw a good budget to Black may in fact be a lousy budget compared to Belfast and Cardiff. I'd be amazed if Black wasnt aware of what those two have spent this year
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Post by EMB on Oct 16, 2019 13:05:32 GMT
Anyone got anything on FB yet?
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Post by Lucy on Oct 16, 2019 13:21:18 GMT
Anyone got anything on FB yet? Yes, working fine for me. Poor Chris is a bit croaky after auctioning about fifty shirts last night!
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Post by grrm on Oct 16, 2019 13:49:58 GMT
Ellis totally failed to ask any good follow up questions.
Questions like:
"what will you do if things don't improve?"
"If our budget is similar to Cardiffs, Sheffields and much bigger than Belfasts, then why are our performances so poor?"
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Post by Yotes on Oct 16, 2019 13:53:45 GMT
Has it finished already? What pearls of wisdom did we garner?
Job done for another year, back into hiding.
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Post by wolfmac on Oct 16, 2019 13:59:51 GMT
Summary of NB’s perspective:
Recruitment budget broadly same as Sheffield and Cardiff but recruitment has been terrible. Responsibility for recruitment is entirely with Doucet. Created DoH role to modernise and Doucet appointed Wallace with Black’s vague approval. Primary objective is and always has been the league title. Hopes to retain 2/3 of this season’s core purely to signify a move away from the turnover rate of previous off-seasons. Glasgow and Belfast both operating with significantly lower expenditure than Panthers this year and in general. Open to match night changes to improve atmosphere. Doesn’t explicitly know anything about replacement signings for Jakobs and Loiseau, presumes Doucet has got a plan for it. No plans to sell. When asked if Panthers can still challenge this year, replied that he’d be disappointed it the current league position didn’t improve.
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Post by Mark on Oct 16, 2019 14:03:25 GMT
I’d like to see proof concerning the budget because frankly I think he’s lying.
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Post by iginla on Oct 16, 2019 14:03:59 GMT
Summary of NB’s perspective: Recruitment budget broadly same as Sheffield and Cardiff but recruitment has been terrible. Responsibility for recruitment is entirely with Doucet. Created DoH role to modernise and Doucet appointed Wallace with Black’s vague approval. Primary objective is and always has been the league title. Hopes to retain 2/3 of this season’s core purely to signify a move away from the turnover rate of previous off-seasons. Glasgow and Belfast both operating with significantly lower expenditure than Panthers this year and in general. Open to match night changes to improve atmosphere. Doesn’t explicitly know anything about replacement signings for Jakobs and Loiseau, presumes Doucet has got a plan for it. No plans to sell. When asked if Panthers can still challenge this year, replied that he’d be disappointed it the current league position didn’t improve. The expected load of crap then and threw Doucet under the bus ! 🙄
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Post by PantherG on Oct 16, 2019 14:04:07 GMT
Well the good news isn’t that they’ll up for retaining two thirds of a team that is down the bottom of the league... you couldn’t make it up...
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Post by wolfmac on Oct 16, 2019 14:07:38 GMT
The only positive, I’d think, is that Doucet will rightly have a massive chip on his shoulder about this and put the extra yardwork in to sign some studs.
Black seemed to be covering poorly for his lack of preparedness, and dismissed a lot of topics - supporters’ trust, individual players, hands-on ownership - as “not his area”.
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Post by Yotes on Oct 16, 2019 14:08:56 GMT
Summary of NB’s perspective: Recruitment budget broadly same as Sheffield and Cardiff but recruitment has been terrible. Hopes to retain 2/3 of this season’s core purely to signify a move away from the turnover rate of previous off-seasons. Logic. Glasgow and Belfast both operating with significantly lower expenditure than Panthers this year and in general. LOL, Belfast lower than us? If that's remotely true, someone at HQ is terrible at their job. When asked if Panthers can still challenge this year, replied that he’d be disappointed it the current league position didn’t improve. We're 8th. Reaching for the stars as usual. Literally in this case, as they're 7th. Black out.
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Post by Yotes on Oct 16, 2019 14:10:35 GMT
Thanks for the summation btw Wolfy.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 14:15:09 GMT
Summary of NB’s perspective: Recruitment budget broadly same as Sheffield and Cardiff but recruitment has been terrible. Responsibility for recruitment is entirely with Doucet. Created DoH role to modernise and Doucet appointed Wallace with Black’s vague approval. Primary objective is and always has been the league title. Hopes to retain 2/3 of this season’s core purely to signify a move away from the turnover rate of previous off-seasons. Glasgow and Belfast both operating with significantly lower expenditure than Panthers this year and in general. Open to match night changes to improve atmosphere. Doesn’t explicitly know anything about replacement signings for Jakobs and Loiseau, presumes Doucet has got a plan for it. No plans to sell. When asked if Panthers can still challenge this year, replied that he’d be disappointed it the current league position didn’t improve. Thanks for the summary. Will try and listen later when I get home. However admitting that recruitment is terrible and then wanting to keep the core together makes no sense. I love this club.
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