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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2019 12:03:03 GMT
I mean this coming year lol Anyway forget the players looking at Panthers website we will easily have the best jumbotron in the league complete with corners and tubular ring ! 😀
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jul 9, 2019 13:05:48 GMT
Did i use the word “guarantee”.....nope. You may think that about Black,but my view is that if crowds dropped significantly the wallet would get opened a little more. but it is hardly fair to blame the fans that love and support the club for it’s lack of spending and success when you have no evidence to back it up After the last few years I would question their need for something to do on a Saturday night IF the Panthers November/December kicks in as per usual. Love and support the club? They have a LONG way to go to get that status back with me.
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Post by iginla on Jul 9, 2019 13:50:02 GMT
I didn’t say 4th/5th Pidge...you did ! If you actually read my post...,I said 3rd/4th. 🤣
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Post by Pies on Jul 9, 2019 17:42:35 GMT
Realistically, I’m not expecting a title challenge this year. I think what we need to allow to happen is for GD and TW to learn about themselves this season. We can’t keep chopping and changing all aspects every year and expect success. We need to let them make mistakes, learn about the building of a team and use that experience.
Get a top 3 finish and build a core of imports to move forward onto next season. I would love to win it all but i’d also love the club to get fans back on side and work with them on that as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2019 17:48:35 GMT
Realistically, I’m not expecting a title challenge this year. I think what we need to allow to happen is for GD and TW to learn about themselves this season. We can’t keep chopping and changing all aspects every year and expect success. We need to let them make mistakes, learn about the building of a team and use that experience. Get a top 3 finish and build a core of imports to move forward onto next season. I would love to win it all but i’d also love the club to get fans back on side and work with them on that as well. The problem with that is if 6/7 imports emerge as real standouts then they will want a increase and that's where Panthers probably dont think they warrant it and as a result Panthers end up completely rebuilding again..
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Post by Jord v4 on Jul 9, 2019 17:56:03 GMT
Realistically, I’m not expecting a title challenge this year. I think what we need to allow to happen is for GD and TW to learn about themselves this season. We can’t keep chopping and changing all aspects every year and expect success. We need to let them make mistakes, learn about the building of a team and use that experience. Get a top 3 finish and build a core of imports to move forward onto next season. I would love to win it all but i’d also love the club to get fans back on side and work with them on that as well. Pretty much this. If we break in to the top three given our new structure & the clear budget differences then it's a result and a half.
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Post by wgray on Jul 9, 2019 18:05:55 GMT
Realistically, I’m not expecting a title challenge this year. I think what we need to allow to happen is for GD and TW to learn about themselves this season. We can’t keep chopping and changing all aspects every year and expect success. We need to let them make mistakes, learn about the building of a team and use that experience. Get a top 3 finish and build a core of imports to move forward onto next season. I would love to win it all but i’d also love the club to get fans back on side and work with them on that as well. The thing is, with the way Sheffield look to be bouncing back, a top 3 finish could potentially mean we’ve put up a good challenge. IMO though, irrelevant of the inexperience of Doucet and Wallace, we should have the funds available to construct a team that can challenge. Anyway, let’s see what happens with the remaining signings and hopefully we have a strong, entertaining roster.
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Post by Pies on Jul 9, 2019 18:19:01 GMT
Realistically, I’m not expecting a title challenge this year. I think what we need to allow to happen is for GD and TW to learn about themselves this season. We can’t keep chopping and changing all aspects every year and expect success. We need to let them make mistakes, learn about the building of a team and use that experience. Get a top 3 finish and build a core of imports to move forward onto next season. I would love to win it all but i’d also love the club to get fans back on side and work with them on that as well. The thing is, with the way Sheffield look to be bouncing back, a top 3 finish could potentially mean we’ve put up a good challenge. IMO though, irrelevant of the inexperience of Doucet and Wallace, we should have the funds available to construct a team that can challenge. Anyway, let’s see what happens with the remaining signings and hopefully we have a strong, entertaining roster. I just think until we see teams on the ice and they get going, it's really difficult to predict anything. When we've got a full roster, I'll take stock. I like our D corp a lot and I know it's split opinion. Sheffield have signed a couple of marquee players but arguably their goaltending is weak and they're an older squad. Their younger players are ones that bench warmed a lot. Tetlow and Kelsall got EIHL experience and Hazeldine played NIHL. Much better for development. Cardiff have splashed the cash and they will do for a little while but their model isn't sustainable forever. even as much as their fans want to say otherwise
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Post by Joe on Jul 9, 2019 18:48:03 GMT
The thing is, with the way Sheffield look to be bouncing back, a top 3 finish could potentially mean we’ve put up a good challenge. IMO though, irrelevant of the inexperience of Doucet and Wallace, we should have the funds available to construct a team that can challenge. Anyway, let’s see what happens with the remaining signings and hopefully we have a strong, entertaining roster. I just think until we see teams on the ice and they get going, it's really difficult to predict anything. When we've got a full roster, I'll take stock. I like our D corp a lot and I know it's split opinion. Sheffield have signed a couple of marquee players but arguably their goaltending is weak and they're an older squad. Their younger players are ones that bench warmed a lot. Tetlow and Kelsall got EIHL experience and Hazeldine played NIHL. Much better for development. Cardiff have splashed the cash and they will do for a little while but their model isn't sustainable forever. even as much as their fans want to say otherwise Cardiff are an even older squad than Steelers as well
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2019 18:59:06 GMT
Will their slower forwards keep pace with some of the younger faster forwards in the league, same with Steelers. That's why Panthers struggled alot last year.. way way too slow
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Post by wannabe2 on Jul 9, 2019 18:59:48 GMT
I just think until we see teams on the ice and they get going, it's really difficult to predict anything. When we've got a full roster, I'll take stock. I like our D corp a lot and I know it's split opinion. Sheffield have signed a couple of marquee players but arguably their goaltending is weak and they're an older squad. Their younger players are ones that bench warmed a lot. Tetlow and Kelsall got EIHL experience and Hazeldine played NIHL. Much better for development. Cardiff have splashed the cash and they will do for a little while but their model isn't sustainable forever. even as much as their fans want to say otherwise Cardiff are an even older squad than Steelers as well
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Post by Jord v4 on Jul 9, 2019 19:01:50 GMT
Cardiff are an even older squad than Steelers as well Best thing you've ever posted.
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Post by wannabe2 on Jul 9, 2019 19:04:58 GMT
Why isn’t our model sustainable, we run our own home, we don’t pay ice time, we have sponsorship by the score, we have a big hardcore fan base, we have owners who ain’t trying to make a quick buck, and we have a history of success. We now have a history of looking after our players, so why should we implode, please explain.
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Post by wannabe2 on Jul 9, 2019 19:08:18 GMT
Cardiff are an even older squad than Steelers as well That was a slip of the finger, so don’t get too excited.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2019 19:32:11 GMT
Why isn’t our model sustainable, we run our own home, we don’t pay ice time, we have sponsorship by the score, we have a big delusional fan base, we have owners who ain’t trying to make a quick buck, and we have a history of success. We now have a history of looking after our players, so why should we implode, please explain. Corrected for you
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Post by texpef on Jul 9, 2019 19:53:25 GMT
Realistically, I’m not expecting a title challenge this year. I think what we need to allow to happen is for GD and TW to learn about themselves this season. We can’t keep chopping and changing all aspects every year and expect success. We need to let them make mistakes, learn about the building of a team and use that experience. Get a top 3 finish and build a core of imports to move forward onto next season. I would love to win it all but i’d also love the club to get fans back on side and work with them on that as well. So Pies what you are saying is "if you want to see the panthers win/challenge for the league skip next season and come back in 20/21 and you might just get your wish" right?... Great... save me a packet
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Post by Pies on Jul 9, 2019 19:53:40 GMT
Why isn’t our model sustainable, we run our own home, we don’t pay ice time, we have sponsorship by the score, we have a big hardcore fan base, we have owners who ain’t trying to make a quick buck, and we have a history of success. We now have a history of looking after our players, so why should we implode, please explain. Do I have to? It's so obvious that I can't be bothered to type it out.
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Post by Pies on Jul 9, 2019 19:57:02 GMT
Realistically, I’m not expecting a title challenge this year. I think what we need to allow to happen is for GD and TW to learn about themselves this season. We can’t keep chopping and changing all aspects every year and expect success. We need to let them make mistakes, learn about the building of a team and use that experience. Get a top 3 finish and build a core of imports to move forward onto next season. I would love to win it all but i’d also love the club to get fans back on side and work with them on that as well. So Pies what you are saying is "if you want to see the panthers win/challenge for the league skip next season and come back in 20/21 and you might just get your wish" right?... Great... save me a packet All about saving people some green. I suppose I'm just thinking about expectations. We've got to try and be realistic that mistakes will be made with the new structure and lets not write it off as a disaster if we don't win the league. a top 4 is a minimum, top 3 ideal. 2nd or a win will be well above what I am expecting.
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Post by texpef on Jul 9, 2019 20:03:32 GMT
So Pies what you are saying is "if you want to see the panthers win/challenge for the league skip next season and come back in 20/21 and you might just get your wish" right?... Great... save me a packet All about saving people some green. I suppose I'm just thinking about expectations. We've got to try and be realistic that mistakes will be made with the new structure and lets not write it off as a disaster if we don't win the league. a top 4 is a minimum, top 3 ideal. 2nd or a win will be well above what I am expecting. AT THE TIME OF WRITING (got to say this) the squads of all the rosters imho there looks a pretty big parity gap between Cardiff (1st) then Sheffield and then the rest of the league... YES I know panthers allegedly have a top six to sign and Belfast are missing a shedload of players but so far for me Cardiff and as I said to a lesser extent Sheffield are setting the bar with no other clubs really matching it AT THE MOMENT... As people keep saying lets wait and see what all the team's full rosters look like but given panthers lack of ambition in the past decade it would be more unusual to actually sign a full quota of quality players than not.... again imho...
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Post by Joe on Jul 9, 2019 21:16:03 GMT
Even if our last forwards aren’t studs, as long as we are faster and out work out opponents then we’ll always have the opportunity to win games
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2019 21:23:28 GMT
Even if our last forwards aren’t studs, as long as we are faster and out work out opponents then we’ll always have the opportunity to win games Most sensible post on here all week 👏
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Post by iginla on Jul 9, 2019 21:57:21 GMT
Even if our last forwards aren’t studs, as long as we are faster and out work out opponents then we’ll always have the opportunity to win games Most sensible post on here all week 👏 No Pidge. Anybody can win a game,but over a long season the teams with the better quality rise to the top. Clan,Fife,Dundee,Guildford,Manchester,Coventry and even MK worked hard/were fast but they all finished where they did for a reason,because they didn’t have enough quality.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2019 22:16:30 GMT
Well as things stand the Panthers defence is comparable to that of steelers and devils and their .. not enough panthere forwards have been announced yet to form any comparison yet. All wait and see 😊
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Post by Joe on Jul 9, 2019 22:54:22 GMT
Most sensible post on here all week 👏 No Pidge. Anybody can win a game,but over a long season the teams with the better quality rise to the top. Clan,Fife,Dundee,Guildford,Manchester,Coventry and even MK worked hard/were fast but they all finished where they did for a reason,because they didn’t have enough quality. but were they outworking their opponents though? I personally don’t think we’ll be that far behind Devils in terms of quality on paper and hard work can certainly bridge the gap between us and Cardiff
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Post by texpef on Jul 10, 2019 17:17:19 GMT
No Pidge. Anybody can win a game,but over a long season the teams with the better quality rise to the top. Clan,Fife,Dundee,Guildford,Manchester,Coventry and even MK worked hard/were fast but they all finished where they did for a reason,because they didn’t have enough quality. but were they outworking their opponents though? I personally don’t think we’ll be that far behind Devils in terms of quality on paper and hard work can certainly bridge the gap between us and Cardiff So let me get this straight you "believe" that the likes of Cardiff and Sheffield are going to be very skilled but will NOT work hard? You think that a lack of quality can be made up by just one team on the ice working hard?.... Sure lets believe that...
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