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Post by wgray on Jun 21, 2019 17:51:25 GMT
As the squad is now starting to take shape there have been discussions on the line-up and the roles we believe are already filled. I thought I’d make a separate thread to keep track of this and to also give us an indication of the spots we might have left to fill.
As we stand now I think we look something like:
Forwards:
Quist - Golovkovs - Bulmer
Herr - Loiseau - Jakobs
Malmquist - Perlini - Rheault
Kelsall - Lachowicz - Betteridge
Defence:
Connelly - DeSantis
Deutsch - Matheson
Tetlow - Fick
Lepine/Hazeldine
Goalies:
Carr
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Post by wgray on Jul 1, 2019 19:19:36 GMT
Updated to include Fick
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Post by wgray on Jul 2, 2019 20:50:39 GMT
Updated following the signing of Deutsch. Hopefully we have another R/H dman to come in, if that’s the case we need two Brit forwards and a back-up goalie. If we can’t sign two brit forwards, and we want to go with 6 import D, I suspect we might utilise Kelsall on the fourth line.
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Post by wgray on Jul 5, 2019 20:46:22 GMT
Updated to include Herr.
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Post by ggggranville on Jul 6, 2019 8:19:36 GMT
Silly question. Is Wallace a bench coach or is he also putting on the skates regularly?
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Post by Jord v4 on Jul 6, 2019 9:11:09 GMT
Silly question. Is Wallace a bench coach or is he also putting on the skates regularly? Still to be confirmed. Wallace might need the player registration. |
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Post by wgray on Jul 6, 2019 12:06:54 GMT
Updated to include Golovkovs.
As I put in the signing thread he played LW last season, I’m hoping his signing is confirmation we’ll be going with 8 import forwards and 5 import D, hopefully Golovkovs is going to be 3rd line LW.
From Doucet’s interview with Chris Ellis it didn’t sound like we’d be signing any more Brits and we’d be using our younger players. Tetlow in the 6D, Kelsall 4th line LW, but he’d be playing on his off-side.
If it is the case that we’re still looking for another import defence-man this would mean we’d have a spare, for arguments sake I’ve put Lepine as the spare.
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Post by allingtonskates on Jul 6, 2019 20:50:34 GMT
Updated to include Golovkovs. As I put in the signing thread he played LW last season, I’m hoping his signing is confirmation we’ll be going with 8 import forwards and 5 import D, hopefully Golovkovs is going to be 3rd line LW. From Doucet’s interview with Chris Ellis it didn’t sound like we’d be signing any more Brits and we’d be using our younger players. Tetlow in the 6D, Kelsall 4th line LW, but he’d be playing on his off-side. If it is the case that we’re still looking for another import defence-man this would mean we’d have a spare, for arguments sake I’ve put Lepine as the spare. and a import back up? |
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Post by wgray on Jul 6, 2019 21:19:14 GMT
Updated to include Golovkovs. As I put in the signing thread he played LW last season, I’m hoping his signing is confirmation we’ll be going with 8 import forwards and 5 import D, hopefully Golovkovs is going to be 3rd line LW. From Doucet’s interview with Chris Ellis it didn’t sound like we’d be signing any more Brits and we’d be using our younger players. Tetlow in the 6D, Kelsall 4th line LW, but he’d be playing on his off-side. If it is the case that we’re still looking for another import defence-man this would mean we’d have a spare, for arguments sake I’ve put Lepine as the spare. and a import back up? If it plays out as expected, where we sign 4 more import forwards and another import defence-man, we’re going to have one too many imports on defence. We need to sign another Brit forward, as well as playing Kelsall, to allow us to play 6 import D, but it doesn’t sound like we’re going to sign anymore Brits. |
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Post by Jord v4 on Jul 6, 2019 21:20:59 GMT
Perhaps a rethink regarding Gospel is on the way....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2019 8:47:10 GMT
As the squad is now starting to take shape there have been discussions on the line-up and the roles we believe are already filled. I thought I’d make a separate thread to keep track of this and to also give us an indication of the spots we might have left to fill. As we stand now I think we look something like: Forwards: Import 1 - Import 2 - Import 3 Herr - Loiseau - Import 5 Golovkovs - Perlini - Rheault Kelsall - Lachowicz - Betteridge Defence: Connely - Import 6 Deutsch - Matheson Tetlow - Fick Lepine/Hazeldine Goalies: Carr Brit 3 I like the look of those lines. Theres actually a degree of depth and plenty of energy |
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Post by Shaggy on Jul 7, 2019 10:22:07 GMT
I always think it's a mug's game trying to predict what the lines will be... you just can't do that from stats, it's all about individual player chemistry and overall team-building...
However, the issue is now the number of imports.
We're allowed to dress 14 imports in total... there are 10 shown on there right now.
Unless Sam Gospel is somehow enticed back, or an already-experienced British netminder is somehow snagged, then it's a good bet that the #2 netminder will be an import as well, and will be dressed for most games.
Which leaves 3 imports... and there are 5 outskater slots provisionally allocated to imports in the listing above.
Something has to give.
The key is going to be if either Farmer does return (which is easily possible if he doesn't secure a team he wants in Europe/wherever) or we somehow blag another experienced British outskater from elsewhere (or both - which would be fantastic, but somewhat unlikely!).
Yes, Ben Davies is not yet announced as re-signing for Guildford... but I'm definitely not going to be holding my breath on that one. He would be a brilliant signing for us, but there are other teams who would want him just as much, and despite the delusions of some - it simply isn't just about the money.
Anyone else?
Personally, I suspect (and, of course, this is guesswork only) that if we don't get another British player in, then we are done recruiting on the blueline... that'll be it for D-men. Unless, of course, we plan to go with a spare. Totally unpredictable, that one.
So... 3 more import forwards? (4 if we get a spare - again, no way of telling).
Whatever happens, we're going to be lucky to be able to go with 4 full forward lines.
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Post by Lawman on Jul 7, 2019 11:01:38 GMT
Is my adding up wrong or are there fifteen imports on here ?
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Post by Joe on Jul 7, 2019 11:27:04 GMT
Personally this is what I think is most likely, I obviously don’t know who our spare dman is so they could replace another import dman I’ve already put in the starting lineup
Import-Import-Import
Herr-Loiseau-Import
Golovkovs-Perlini-Rheault
Kelsall - Lacho - Betteridge
Hazeldine
Deutsch - Connelly
Lepine - Fick
Tetlow - Matheson
Import
Carr
Import
Brit backup
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Post by wgray on Jul 7, 2019 11:27:40 GMT
Is my adding up wrong or are there fifteen imports on here ? From the predicted lines there are 15 imports stated, this assumption comes from the fact that Doucet has said he’s still looking for another defenceman, and also that he is wanting to play 4-line hockey. However, we would be unable to ice 6 import defence-men, unless we signed another Brit forward, but that looks unlikely. So, in that case, we would need to play Tetlow on defence and an import defender would have to sit out. |
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Post by Lawman on Jul 7, 2019 11:45:58 GMT
Thanks for clearing that up 🏒
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Post by sevcik on Jul 7, 2019 13:02:00 GMT
Is my adding up wrong or are there fifteen imports on here ? From the predicted lines there are 15 imports stated, this assumption comes from the fact that Doucet has said he’s still looking for another defenceman, and also that he is wanting to play 4-line hockey. However, we would be unable to ice 6 import defence-men, unless we signed another Brit forward, but that looks unlikely. So, in that case, we would need to play Tetlow on defence and an import defender would have to sit out. Unless we are going to play with 6 import defencemen & 7 import forwards rather than 8. Joe Hazeldine is listed as a forward on the roster section of the website. Indeed on the website article announcing his re-signing it was stated that Hazeldine can play forward. (In a radio interview they also said they'd heard good things about him playing up front).It wouldn't surprise me to see him on the 4th line. On one of the articles on the website it was stated they want Tetlow & Hazeldine to get regular ice time The only way Hazeldine will get that is as a 4th line forward if as expected a 6th import D is signed. A 4th line of Kelsall, Hazeldine & whoever else would be weak in my opinion... If indeed that's how it transpires... |
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Post by wgray on Jul 7, 2019 13:20:27 GMT
From the predicted lines there are 15 imports stated, this assumption comes from the fact that Doucet has said he’s still looking for another defenceman, and also that he is wanting to play 4-line hockey. However, we would be unable to ice 6 import defence-men, unless we signed another Brit forward, but that looks unlikely. So, in that case, we would need to play Tetlow on defence and an import defender would have to sit out. Unless we are going to play with 6 import defencemen & 7 import forwards rather than 8. Joe Hazeldine is listed as a forward on the roster section of the website. Indeed on the website article announcing his re-signing it was stated that Hazeldine can play forward. (In a radio interview they also said they'd heard good things about him playing up front).It wouldn't surprise me to see him on the 4th line. On one of the articles on the website it was stated they want Tetlow & Hazeldine to get regular ice time The only way Hazeldine will get that is as a 4th line forward if as expected a 6th import D is signed. A 4th line of Kelsall, Hazeldine & whoever else would be weak in my opinion... If indeed that's how it transpires... So in theory: Import Import Import Herr Loiseau Rheault Golovkovs Perlini Betteridge Hazeldine Lachowicz Kelsall Connelly Import Deutsch Matheson Lepine Fick Tetlow Carr Brit I agree with you, the 4th line would be too inexperienced I feel. Also, IMO Rheault shouldn’t be on the 2nd line. There’s still plenty of ways it could work, let’s see what happens. |
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Post by sevcik on Jul 7, 2019 13:53:21 GMT
Unless we are going to play with 6 import defencemen & 7 import forwards rather than 8. Joe Hazeldine is listed as a forward on the roster section of the website. Indeed on the website article announcing his re-signing it was stated that Hazeldine can play forward. (In a radio interview they also said they'd heard good things about him playing up front).It wouldn't surprise me to see him on the 4th line. On one of the articles on the website it was stated they want Tetlow & Hazeldine to get regular ice time The only way Hazeldine will get that is as a 4th line forward if as expected a 6th import D is signed. A 4th line of Kelsall, Hazeldine & whoever else would be weak in my opinion... If indeed that's how it transpires... So in theory: Import Import Import Herr Loiseau Rheault Golovkovs Perlini Betteridge Hazeldine Lachowicz Kelsall Connelly Import Deutsch Matheson Lepine Fick Tetlow Carr Brit I agree with you, the 4th line would be too inexperienced I feel. Also, IMO Rheault shouldn’t be on the 2nd line. There’s still plenty of ways it could work, let’s see what happens. Time will tell how it all pans out I guess. I'm not sure Perlini & Betteridge as a combination would bring the best out of Golovkovs (who is listed as a centre on elite prospects). Perlini can play rw so could in theory swap with Rheault? Lacho can also play left wing... When he puts the effort in ... I guess no one will know for sure how we will line up until we hit the ice for the first time (assuming all players have arrived by then) just educated guesses. Also it was stated on one of the interviews that Connelly can play right D so it's not a given he will line up on the left side of the D... It's all very quiet on whether we are signing a 2nd import netminder as we have the past 2 seasons... |
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Post by Jord v4 on Jul 7, 2019 18:15:45 GMT
Am I the only one mildly alarmed that all the roster predictions here so far have the 'top' fwd line empty....?! How often are supposed entire top lines the final signings?
Can't help feel there's going to be some serious disappointment at what we end up with fwds wise.
Pessimism Sunday maybe I know.
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Post by wgray on Jul 7, 2019 18:35:44 GMT
Am I the only one mildly alarmed that all the roster predictions here so far have the 'top' fwd line empty....?! How often are supposed entire top lines the final signings? Can't help feel there's going to be some serious disappointment at what we end up with fwds wise. Pessimism Sunday maybe I know. I hope you’re wrong. As much as I have faith in Wallace getting the best out of the players already signed there is still an aspect of wait and see in terms of what they are capable of offensively. If we’re going to challenge we still need the remaining forwards to be guaranteed producers, on par with Riley, Linglet, Lake etc. Obviously it’s not as simple as “here’s a load of money, play for us”, but it goes a long way to helping persuade a player. This is all based an assumption but we’ve lost two senior Brits and from our signings so far I’d expect Connelly, Matheson, Perlini, Herr and Deutsch will be higher up in the wage scale. Surely we should still be looking to bring in a few players with high-profile CV’s? |
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Post by Shaggy on Jul 7, 2019 18:58:45 GMT
Am I the only one mildly alarmed that all the roster predictions here so far have the 'top' fwd line empty....?! How often are supposed entire top lines the final signings? Can't help feel there's going to be some serious disappointment at what we end up with fwds wise. Pessimism Sunday maybe I know. Perhaps Doucet & Wallace are waiting for the annual last-minute glut of players (North American and European) who have found out that they aren't getting signed to a club in the higher league that they want, so they're stuck with a lower league or going elsewhere... It's possibly a bit of a gamble, but we know that the phenomenon is very real and involves large numbers of players, so... <shrugs> who knows? |
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Post by Joe on Jul 7, 2019 19:23:53 GMT
Am I the only one mildly alarmed that all the roster predictions here so far have the 'top' fwd line empty....?! How often are supposed entire top lines the final signings? Can't help feel there's going to be some serious disappointment at what we end up with fwds wise. Pessimism Sunday maybe I know. Doucet said in an interview that they are waiting to get the top end players and that was a week or two ago |
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Post by Jord v4 on Jul 7, 2019 19:38:13 GMT
Am I the only one mildly alarmed that all the roster predictions here so far have the 'top' fwd line empty....?! How often are supposed entire top lines the final signings? Can't help feel there's going to be some serious disappointment at what we end up with fwds wise. Pessimism Sunday maybe I know. Doucet said in an interview that they are waiting to get the top end players and that was a week or two ago Ah ok, I don;t listen to the website interviews. Wait n' see then, cheers. |
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Post by EMB on Jul 7, 2019 19:40:55 GMT
Wouldn’t surprise me if the team is already signed up and we’ll be drip fed the remainder over the next couple of weeks, & if Farmer doesn’t find a club does he end up back here where he doesn’t really want to be.
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