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Post by wasteoftime on Jul 17, 2017 12:12:03 GMT
Don't worry, they've already been signed they'll be here.
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Jul 19, 2017 15:24:07 GMT
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Post by PantherB on Jul 19, 2017 15:24:07 GMT
Quick question:
What are people doing in regards to getting to the Hradec Kralove game?
Travel seems quite awkward between there and Prague.
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Jul 19, 2017 15:29:20 GMT
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Post by Rob Scott on Jul 19, 2017 15:29:20 GMT
Quick question: What are people doing in regards to getting to the Hradec Kralove game? Travel seems quite awkward between there and Prague. Apparently there is a train which goes direct.
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Post by PantherB on Jul 19, 2017 16:00:10 GMT
Quick question: What are people doing in regards to getting to the Hradec Kralove game? Travel seems quite awkward between there and Prague. Apparently there is a train which goes direct. There is, going from Prague on the day, takes 1hr40m but the return is very risky. No direct trains when returning, from what I can see and the last reasonable train leaves at 21.04 with a change at Pardubice, where the connecting train departs 4 minutes after the train from Hradec arrives. If that's missed then the next train to Prague isn't until about 3am. The game starts at 6pm local time, so I'd assume it would finish around 8.30pm with it more than likely being on TV, having TV timeouts etc.. it's a 25 minute walk from the Arena to the Station too so unless it's an uneventful game and finishes slightly earlier then it'd be cutting it close even for the 21.04 train. These are all times from DB Bahn, German rail operator.
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Post by johnbluebeam on Jul 19, 2017 16:02:08 GMT
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Post by PantherB on Jul 23, 2017 15:04:02 GMT
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Post by Big Popper on Aug 2, 2017 11:23:59 GMT
Am I reading the Mountfield web site correctly? To me it looks like tickets go on sale on the day of the game and not before linkI have tried emailing Mountfield at several different addresses and even FB messaging them but I have had no answer. Everything else is booked and sorted I just need to get my tickets now Has anyone else managed to find anything out?
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Post by Pies on Aug 2, 2017 11:51:39 GMT
Am I reading the Mountfield web site correctly? To me it looks like tickets go on sale on the day of the game and not before linkI have tried emailing Mountfield at several different addresses and even FB messaging them but I have had no answer. Everything else is booked and sorted I just need to get my tickets now Has anyone else managed to find anything out? They tweeted that the game won't sell out so not to worry about tickets is the only bit of info I have seen
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2017 14:53:28 GMT
Apparently there is a train which goes direct. There is, going from Prague on the day, takes 1hr40m but the return is very risky. No direct trains when returning, from what I can see and the last reasonable train leaves at 21.04 with a change at Pardubice, where the connecting train departs 4 minutes after the train from Hradec arrives. If that's missed then the next train to Prague isn't until about 3am. The game starts at 6pm local time, so I'd assume it would finish around 8.30pm with it more than likely being on TV, having TV timeouts etc.. it's a 25 minute walk from the Arena to the Station too so unless it's an uneventful game and finishes slightly earlier then it'd be cutting it close even for the 21.04 train. These are all times from DB Bahn, German rail operator. Anybody have a response to this one? I see the link to the Czech train website but when I search for trains I'm only seeing the 21.04 train back to Prague. I'm not definitely going yet but before I start booking it then I want to get this part of the trip nailed down.
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Aug 2, 2017 15:41:30 GMT
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Post by John Casey on Aug 2, 2017 15:41:30 GMT
Anyone know if there is TV coverage especially for the away games
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Post by johnbluebeam on Aug 2, 2017 15:46:57 GMT
When I was looking I found a couple of trains that made a quick stop at Parubice before travelling on to Prague. These were express trains from Graz,Austria and Kosice,Slovakia if I remember correctly and were at about 9.30 and 10.15. I have have no idea of cost or if you would need to reserve seats. I decided in the finish a night in a hotel in Hradec was the best bet and travel back to Prague on the Sunday. Unfortunately I now wont be going anyway.
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Post by DonClaneone on Aug 3, 2017 14:03:05 GMT
Premier Sports will probably cover the games, you can't watch on the CHL site due to geoblocking.
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Post by Peacock on Aug 3, 2017 14:23:48 GMT
Premier Sports will probably cover the games, you can't watch on the CHL site due to geoblocking. 'Legally'. The word missing from your post is 'legally'. You can absolutely watch any game you want on the CHL site if you want to.
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Post by FullMetalDagger on Aug 3, 2017 15:58:13 GMT
Premier Sports will probably cover the games, you can't watch on the CHL site due to geoblocking. Haven't seen any announcments yet. Hopefully this happens though
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Post by DonClaneone on Aug 4, 2017 14:02:46 GMT
They've covered all the EIHL teams in the CHL so far so I don't see why they'd stop.
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Aug 4, 2017 15:59:54 GMT
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Post by sevcik on Aug 4, 2017 15:59:54 GMT
They've covered all the EIHL teams in the CHL so far so I don't see why they'd stop. As far as I'm aware premier sports no longer have the rights for the CHL. Last season was the last year of their 3 year deal. They removed the CHL from the ice hockey menu on their website the day after last season's final. By the looks of it they are scaling back their ice hockey coverage as now they only have the NHL as well as the SHL. Whether they will renew the rights or if another channel picks it up is anyones guess
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Post by nate24 on Aug 5, 2017 11:55:50 GMT
Does anyone actually get excited about this? Is it any more than a televised exhibition series? If we were competitive then it could real jewel in the crown for a British trophy cabinet with real bragging rights.
Instead we are whipping boys and we should withdraw. It just allows the better clubs to practice new lines and strategies ready for their real games.
I heard from one of the Fins coming over that realistically we could be competing within a few years if the teams and the league put an aggressive development plan into play. We've not got a plan, it's a joke how little effort the development of our league is taken.
We are competitive in the other European cup. We should stick with that and when the league can be bothered to improve have a look at the CHL.
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Post by kievthegreat on Aug 5, 2017 12:06:49 GMT
Does anyone actually get excited about this? Is it any more than a televised exhibition series? If we were competitive then it could real jewel in the crown for a British trophy cabinet with real bragging rights. Instead we are whipping boys and we should withdraw. It just allows the better clubs to practice new lines and strategies ready for their real games. I heard from one of the Fins coming over that realistically we could be competing within a few years if the teams and the league put an aggressive development plan into play. We've not got a plan, it's a joke how little effort the development of our league is taken. We are competitive in the other European cup. We should stick with that and when the league can be bothered to improve have a look at the CHL. Then why not make the FA Cup start in the third round? Or why not kick all teams that aren't either French, German, Italian, Spanish and English out of the champions league? Same for the world cup, Just make it Europe, South America and maybe USA every four years? Maybe do the same with Caps, Stars and Flyers in the EIHL as they'll never win it so why do they bother? Weed out the non competitive teams in everything?
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Post by nate24 on Aug 5, 2017 12:14:45 GMT
Does anyone actually get excited about this? Is it any more than a televised exhibition series? If we were competitive then it could real jewel in the crown for a British trophy cabinet with real bragging rights. Instead we are whipping boys and we should withdraw. It just allows the better clubs to practice new lines and strategies ready for their real games. I heard from one of the Fins coming over that realistically we could be competing within a few years if the teams and the league put an aggressive development plan into play. We've not got a plan, it's a joke how little effort the development of our league is taken. We are competitive in the other European cup. We should stick with that and when the league can be bothered to improve have a look at the CHL. Then why not make the FA Cup start in the third round? Or why not kick all teams that aren't either French, German, Italian, Spanish and English out of the champions league? Same for the world cup, Just make it Europe, South America and maybe USA every four years? Maybe do the same with Caps, Stars and Flyers in the EIHL as they'll never win it so why do they bother? Weed out the non competitive teams in everything? The difference is those teams get financial benefits to competing. Lincoln City's success in the FA cup will have positive ramifications for seasons to come. Those competitions are also tiered to get progressively harder. The CHL isn't. Early stages would be exciting against similar opposition and then you gain the momentum to cause upset and excitement later on. At the minute we are just a wild card with no momentum going on an expensive road trip inaccessible to most fans anyway. Back to Lincoln, they've had a success they could well use this as a launching pad to vastly improve their future prospects. We have no success and no leverage from competing to aid improvement. I've not seen a better calibre of player come to these shores thanks to our participation. If anything a quality player sees the run of results and looks to Germany. The UK competes in a competitive manner in one European completion. The CHL is superfluous and is exposure to injury for a club notoriously poor at replacing injured players.
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Post by iginla on Aug 5, 2017 12:36:09 GMT
Then why not make the FA Cup start in the third round? Or why not kick all teams that aren't either French, German, Italian, Spanish and English out of the champions league? Same for the world cup, Just make it Europe, South America and maybe USA every four years? Maybe do the same with Caps, Stars and Flyers in the EIHL as they'll never win it so why do they bother? Weed out the non competitive teams in everything? The difference is those teams get financial benefits to competing. Lincoln City's success in the FA cup will have positive ramifications for seasons to come. Those competitions are also tiered to get progressively harder. The CHL isn't. Early stages would be exciting against similar opposition and then you gain the momentum to cause upset and excitement later on. At the minute we are just a wild card with no momentum going on an expensive road trip inaccessible to most fans anyway. Back to Lincoln, they've had a success they could well use this as a launching pad to vastly improve their future prospects. We have no success and no leverage from competing to aid improvement. I've not seen a better calibre of player come to these shores thanks to our participation. If anything a quality player sees the run of results and looks to Germany. The UK competes in a competitive manner in one European completion. The CHL is superfluous and is exposure to injury for a club notoriously poor at replacing injured players. Some very good points there Nate. I was told our last jaunt into the CHL cost Panthers £200k. Just imagine if we spent that same money on our EIHL team what sort of team we would have.....we would be increasing our player budget by something like 50%. That's what I find so annoying. They are happy to spend big money on a six game first round exit in the CHL,but not on the EIHL,which is what the remaining 5500 fans pay every week to see !
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Post by Yotes on Aug 5, 2017 12:43:06 GMT
Does anyone actually get excited about this? Yep. Well, as excited as a man of my age ever gets about the Nottingham Panthers.
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Post by kievthegreat on Aug 5, 2017 13:05:03 GMT
The difference is those teams get financial benefits to competing. Lincoln City's success in the FA cup will have positive ramifications for seasons to come. Well we get 3 extra home games, 4,000 times say £10 each is £120k over three games?Those competitions are also tiered to get progressively harder. The CHL isn't. Yes it is, we're in the first round.Early stages would be exciting against similar opposition and then you gain the momentum to cause upset and excitement later on. But we could cause an upset & excitement in this stage. Unlikely to progress further, but enough upsets....At the minute we are just a wild card with no momentum going on an expensive road trip inaccessible to most fans anyway. Flights to Prague are approx. £80 return when I first looked, flights to Bern were £44 return!. Hell if you were clever you could do it for less than a double header in Belfast!
Back to Lincoln, they've had a success they could well use this as a launching pad to vastly improve their future prospects. We have no success and no leverage from competing to aid improvement. If us, Devils, maybe one of the french teams progressed why couldn't we leverage it? You've used the example of Lincoln, but they are 1 team out of 156 (from the point they entered) who had a miraculous run. Yes, a smaller number of teams make it harder, group stages doubly so, but there is nothing to suggest clubs of ours and Cardiff's stature can't achieve something similar, what we make of it then is our opportunity to spurn or utilise.I've not seen a better calibre of player come to these shores thanks to our participation. If anything a quality player sees the run of results and looks to Germany. Well I don't think that's the fault of our competing in the CHL, but of our managements attitude in general.The UK competes in a competitive manner in one European completion. The CHL is superfluous and is exposure to injury for a club notoriously poor at replacing injured players. The problem with the Continental cup is that is a tinpot competition. People call it the equivalent of the UEFA cup, but it's much more like the Intertoto cup. In a choice between Continental cup or nothing, I'd be very tempted to choose nothing. It's only value is as a way into the CHL.Some very good points there Nate. I was told our last jaunt into the CHL cost Panthers £200k. Just imagine if we spent that same money on our EIHL team what sort of team we would have.....we would be increasing our player budget by something like 50%. That's what I find so annoying. They are happy to spend big money on a six game first round exit in the CHL,but not on the EIHL,which is what the remaining 5500 fans pay every week to see !
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Post by pingchowchi on Aug 5, 2017 14:07:34 GMT
Does anyone actually get excited about this? I am more excited about these games than watching the steelers for 20,018 times this season.
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Post by iginla on Aug 5, 2017 14:14:38 GMT
Does anyone actually get excited about this? I am more excited about these games than watching the steelers for 20,018 times this season. At least we might win one or two against the Steelers though ! 😂
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Post by nate24 on Aug 5, 2017 14:26:50 GMT
Some very good points there Nate. I was told our last jaunt into the CHL cost Panthers £200k. Just imagine if we spent that same money on our EIHL team what sort of team we would have.....we would be increasing our player budget by something like 50%. That's what I find so annoying. They are happy to spend big money on a six game first round exit in the CHL,but not on the EIHL,which is what the remaining 5500 fans pay every week to see ! I haven't got to time to reply to every point but Lincolns story isn't unique. It happens every now and again. It was just a fresh example. The difference is the opposition early on gives teams like Lincoln momentum as they are likely to play teams is realistic to upset. The CHL is short and sharp therefore not comparable as a competition like the FA cup. The 1st round of the CHL is an extremely high calibre compared to our level and as such is not an appropriate tier for us to start in. I concede it's tiered but we are not good enough for tier 1. If a lesser seeded club that was not British did cause an upset no. One in the UK would pay attention. A British team would ha e to have an impact for the media to pick it up. They won't, British ice hockey exposure is stagnant and not enough effort is being made to change this. People can't travel for many reasons not just financial and don't go to away games. Maybe it is just as accessible as some away games but the fact you aren't filling the arena on home games in the CHL is an indication of how people feel. With the exception of Hamburg the atmosphere was very stilled last time around. I don't know how your figures stack up. I'll leave Iginlia to counter but it seems like a huge loss and not even a break even from where I'm sitting and one that risks the domestic campaign. People turn their nose up at the continental cup because they have a grander view of where they think we should be. Like it or not, that's the appropriate level of hockey for the EIHL.
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