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Post by allingtonskates on Oct 10, 2015 22:29:23 GMT
I thought it was a great game other than the elbow from duco and the reefing
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Post by allingtonskates on Oct 10, 2015 22:33:03 GMT
That was a terrible game and we were terrible. We were disjointed and lacking ideas. The PK was good but the less said about the PP the better Absolutely. We were slow. Soon as we conceded we didn't want anything to do with the game. did u see the bit at the end I thought for the last 10 mins we were working our socks of and its only coreys fault for signing slow players but good players and I don't get how you can say we did terrible when the beat the likes of Belfast 7-1 in the first meeting and we scored in the first 1 min and 10 secs plus we hit the post in the last 5 seconds so I don't see how we did bad also with 3-4 players down we must have watched a different game
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Post by Mozzy on Oct 10, 2015 23:26:39 GMT
Easily the best side I've seen come in to the HOS this year.
Think there will be some big battles between our two sides this year.
Just a couple of points, after all the hype about Janssen, very disappointing.
I've read numerous times about you being players down, which is true of course but it is worth noting that you did have the same number of players as we did. You have more depth than us and it will serve you well during the season.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Oct 10, 2015 23:55:45 GMT
Must say their match night presentations are miles above our own It's light years ahead and looking around the crowd I was surprised how young a lot of the fans were too. Lots of young families there.
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Post by Mark on Oct 11, 2015 0:32:14 GMT
Must say their match night presentations are miles above our own It's light years ahead and looking around the crowd I was surprised how young a lot of the fans were too. Lots of young families there. Unfortunately for us Gary Moran is strangling the life out of the match night experience at Nottingham. His micro management and obsession with everything being under his control has left us with the turgid experience before, between and after the hockey. As far as the Mach tonight went, It was pretty pleasing, matched the Steelers in their own barn and they got the win off of the back of a poor penalty call and some mardarses tactics by O'Connor. Add in some excellent saves from Plante and the post saving him on the buzzer and the result could have been different. Who knows, sign a full quota of imports and it might make all the difference?
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Post by allingtonskates on Oct 11, 2015 0:37:43 GMT
Easily the best side I've seen come in to the HOS this year. Think there will be some big battles between our two sides this year. Just a couple of points, after all the hype about Janssen, very disappointing. I've read numerous times about you being players down, which is true of course but it is worth noting that you did have the same number of players as we did. You have more depth than us and it will serve you well during the season. I think the reason why he didn't hit much that game was because it was a cc game and we are both through so maybe didn't want a injury or suspension. but he hits like a train
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Post by thebestpanthers on Oct 11, 2015 7:57:59 GMT
Easily the best side I've seen come in to the HOS this year. Think there will be some big battles between our two sides this year. Just a couple of points, after all the hype about Janssen, very disappointing. I've read numerous times about you being players down, which is true of course but it is worth noting that you did have the same number of players as we did. You have more depth than us and it will serve you well during the season. Think that is a big difference of opinion - I think many expect him to throw his weight around every time he is on the ice - but he is a much more intelligent player than that, he is fast, picks his shots, times his checks, and intimidates without gooning, think he will draw a lot more penalties than he takes.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2015 8:10:33 GMT
Let's be honest most opposite fans are expecting him to constantly goons things up and be a liability. That's why theyre disappointed
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Post by Mozzy on Oct 11, 2015 8:45:35 GMT
Let's be honest most opposite fans are expecting him to constantly goons things up and be a liability. That's why theyre disappointed Sorry Pidge but that is totally wrong. I never expected him to be gooning it up. But, after weeks of reading and listening to the hype, he was nothing like he has been made out to be. He hits hard, he's full of energy and he's clearly a character and the league is better with him in it. But, he isn't the hardest hitter I've ever seen, Salters hits just as hard, if not harder. He missed far more hits than he connected with. His best friend last night was the arena boards. Our players were not intimidated by him, they weren't always looking over their shoulder. He offered absolutely nothing as an offensive threat. That's why I was disappointed. He's been made out to be like this machine of a player, he just wasn't. Just my opinion on one game, he may prove me wrong over the rest of the games we play you, but last night he just wasn't great.
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Post by Mozzy on Oct 11, 2015 8:49:29 GMT
Easily the best side I've seen come in to the HOS this year. Think there will be some big battles between our two sides this year. Just a couple of points, after all the hype about Janssen, very disappointing. I've read numerous times about you being players down, which is true of course but it is worth noting that you did have the same number of players as we did. You have more depth than us and it will serve you well during the season. Think that is a big difference of opinion - I think many expect him to throw his weight around every time he is on the ice - but he is a much more intelligent player than that, he is fast, picks his shots, times his checks, and intimidates without gooning, think he will draw a lot more penalties than he takes. He didn't though. He didn't intimidate, his timing on his checks was way off. He is quick and full of energy though. Only one game, he may change my mind the next time we play you.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2015 8:58:04 GMT
I must say you managed to interview all your players over the intimidation thing very quickly.
Good work.
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Post by jdizpt8 on Oct 11, 2015 9:21:51 GMT
For those saying Janssen didn't intimidate maybe it's a case that he didn't need to, no steelers player threw cheap or late hits apart from Duco chucking his elbow up and goading Betteridge into a fight and fair play to the boy for dropping them and standing up for himself. So as far as I'm concerned he did his job and he played some good hockey and still put a few players on their bum mostly when players try to him him and I didn't see Fitzgerald do a lot of anything in term of intimidation he got put down by Bohmbach when trying to hit him and then jumped in when Roy was being a punk after getting hit cleanly. O'Connor is mardy as who the had an issue with Myers stood in front of the bet I'll never know and played the injured part well after Mosey hit him shoulder to shoulder and O'Connor turned into the board. Decent game I thought steelers played a good fast game as to be expected our D had the odd lapse but mostly Wiikman stood up strong. Looking forward to having all our players in think we've got a lot more to give
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Post by dreadface on Oct 11, 2015 9:37:31 GMT
From what I could watch when it wasn't buffering, Panthers put up a good effort against a very good Steelers team. It was a shame that the winning goal came about due to a bad call sold by a player acting like he'd been injured, only for him to be out on the resulting power play. Id like to hope that once all the injured players and Ling are back in the lineup we will have the upper hand.
As for streaming issues, Im on Virgin Media, contacted Steelers TV Live and they've offered a refund, however this isnt the first time they've claimed issues with Virgin customers. They had these problems last season so you would imagine that it would get sorted. I never have problems with other streaming sites, online games.
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Post by kezypanther on Oct 11, 2015 9:48:18 GMT
I don't think thats entirely true @mozzy . You players were looking out for Janssen. I think it was O'Connor in the third that rather than get hit just threw the puck out to our player waiting on the blue line he managed to get a shot away then he did the exact same bad pass 5 seconds later. Whilst I agree some of our fans have gone OTT as to what Janssen can do but like you said maybe when you see him more you will be more impressed.
As for the game I dont think Panthers played well, too many misplaced passes and our PP was awful. Saying that both Steelers goals could have been avoided. Two evenly matched teams but when we have our players back and Ling I think we will be just ahead but not by much. On to the next game aye ...
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Post by nate24 on Oct 11, 2015 10:36:07 GMT
Janssen's effectiveness is limited by reputation. That is why we could do with another layer of toughness to add to the threat level as at the minute they are watching out for one guy.
That said as Janssen continues to throw hits and rattle guys with near hits we are going to see more of the subtle O'Connor style errors. They are worth the effort and will gift us many opportunities.
People are expecting to see players checked into the rafters and fights after every nudge and that is just not the way he is playing the game and I am thankful for that.
A lot of people are way too high on Janssen but he does plays an important role in a team context. He is a piece of the roster I don't think we can afford to lose but there is a good few guys like that this year and they deserve credit for our current run of form too.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2015 11:09:38 GMT
]I've read numerous times about you being players down, which is true of course but it is worth noting that you did have the same number of players as we did. You have more depth than us and it will serve you well during the season. I don't think the point is we have less players, it's more the fact we should have 4 more than you. That's why we're 'short'
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Post by wgray on Oct 11, 2015 11:12:53 GMT
I was very unimpressed from Lacho last night, apart from on the pp his passing was awful especially when transitioning into their zone, he didn't want to take anyone, he showed no aggression at all when chasing the puck or trying to get it back, I think he ruined the line with Kolnik and Moran and needs to prove himself worthy of playing with them
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Post by pingchowchi on Oct 11, 2015 11:19:37 GMT
I thought that the game was a bit lack luster last night, but I suppose that's to be expected as both teams have a much more important game today.
The feed buffered a lot for me until I switched my browser, that seem to he'll a bit.
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Post by thebestpanthers on Oct 11, 2015 11:42:19 GMT
Some very good pointers from both teams - think the rivalry will go up a couple of notches over the season - a few disappointments, our power play is rubbish (hope Ling will help this out), the call against Mosey, the ref truly bought that from O,Connor, (hope he grows out of his football player mentality, otherwise he will lose a lot of respect), Swindlehurst cost us a goal with a bad pass.
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Post by allingtonskates on Oct 11, 2015 12:02:03 GMT
Let's be honest most opposite fans are expecting him to constantly goons things up and be a liability. That's why theyre disappointed Sorry Pidge but that is totally wrong. I never expected him to be gooning it up. But, after weeks of reading and listening to the hype, he was nothing like he has been made out to be. He hits hard, he's full of energy and he's clearly a character and the league is better with him in it. But, he isn't the hardest hitter I've ever seen, Salters hits just as hard, if not harder. He missed far more hits than he connected with. His best friend last night was the arena boards. Our players were not intimidated by him, they weren't always looking over their shoulder. He offered absolutely nothing as an offensive threat. That's why I was disappointed. He's been made out to be like this machine of a player, he just wasn't. Just my opinion on one game, he may prove me wrong over the rest of the games we play you, but last night he just wasn't great. no salters doesn't you just wait until he catches one of your guys
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Post by marshalfish on Oct 11, 2015 12:02:10 GMT
I was very unimpressed from Lacho last night, apart from on the pp his passing was awful especially when transitioning into their zone, he didn't want to take anyone, he showed no aggression at all when chasing the puck or trying to get it back, I think he ruined the line with Kolnik and Moran and needs to prove himself worthy of playing with them I wonder if he has been told that he will be coming off that line with the arrival of Ling, and he's not too chuffed with the one that he's going to be playing on.
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Post by allingtonskates on Oct 11, 2015 12:08:38 GMT
I was very unimpressed from Lacho last night, apart from on the pp his passing was awful especially when transitioning into their zone, he didn't want to take anyone, he showed no aggression at all when chasing the puck or trying to get it back, I think he ruined the line with Kolnik and Moran and needs to prove himself worthy of playing with them I wonder if he has been told that he will be coming off that line with the arrival of Ling, and he's not too chuffed with the one that he's going to be playing on. then if he doesn't like it sack him and pick up a player like Davies from Manchester who tries his hardest every game
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Post by wgray on Oct 11, 2015 12:25:49 GMT
I was very unimpressed from Lacho last night, apart from on the pp his passing was awful especially when transitioning into their zone, he didn't want to take anyone, he showed no aggression at all when chasing the puck or trying to get it back, I think he ruined the line with Kolnik and Moran and needs to prove himself worthy of playing with them I wonder if he has been told that he will be coming off that line with the arrival of Ling, and he's not too chuffed with the one that he's going to be playing on. Ling plays RW and Lacho plays LW so they won't be a straight swap but there may be a reshuffle though that could lead to him dropping down some lines, he could pair Farmer with them who can score and will give his all or even Clarke, I think it could be something like Farmer Moran Kolnik Schultz Bohmbach Ling Lacho Macmillan Mosey Clarke Myers Janssen/Betteridge
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Post by marshalfish on Oct 11, 2015 12:35:01 GMT
I wonder if he has been told that he will be coming off that line with the arrival of Ling, and he's not too chuffed with the one that he's going to be playing on. Ling plays RW and Lacho plays LW so they won't be a straight swap but there may be a reshuffle though that could lead to him dropping down some lines, he could pair Farmer with them who can score and will give his all or even Clarke, I think it could be something like Farmer Moran Kolnik Schultz Bohmbach Ling Lacho Macmillan Mosey Clarke Myers Janssen/Betteridge I could see that line working for him. Especially with the speed of Mosey and Macmillan being a bit gritty.
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Post by magicman29 on Oct 11, 2015 12:46:00 GMT
The rubbish wrote around here gets worse. You had the same number of players as we had. You were nothing short. Janssen is a deterent purely because he's dirty and hits late (when he times it properly). Nobodies scared of him, the last time him and fitzy met he got fed his breakfast. As would a lot of big guys in the league.
Once you have all your players back it will make you 3 or 4 deeper than anyone in the league and I'd expect you to be stronger for that alone. If not, then words need to be had with the management.
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