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Post by Yotes on Feb 5, 2014 10:52:44 GMT
Nice "family" shot that, with Tony in the foreground. Gary is apparently dusting the sold out signs again. I do love the build up to a Panthers-Steelers at the NIC, will it sell out, won't it... the tension! Terrific stuff.
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Post by panthersdave on Feb 5, 2014 11:27:52 GMT
With us its the sold out signs, with them its the 50/50. Very boring.
I would suggest they keep the sold out signs somewhere else. They seem to get dusty very quickly!
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Post by Lord of the Rinks on Feb 5, 2014 11:34:38 GMT
I feel like Han Solo sitting in the Millennium Falcon when they approach the Death Star...... " I got a bad feeling about this" Sheffield,You will never find a more wretched hive of s**m and villainy. We must be cautious. May the force be with us.
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Post by Lord of the Rinks on Feb 5, 2014 11:37:36 GMT
I feel like Han Solo sitting in the Millennium Falcon when they approach the Death Star...... " I got a bad feeling about this" I find your lack of faith disturbing.
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Post by tootootrain on Feb 5, 2014 12:05:19 GMT
I would suggest they keep the sold out signs somewhere else. They seem to get dusty very quickly! Given how frequently 'Europe's Biggest Rivalry' occurs these days I'm surprised they have time to get dusty.
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Post by pantherlee on Feb 5, 2014 12:16:54 GMT
GEEKS!!! lol. Funny though.
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Post by kgw on Feb 5, 2014 13:59:38 GMT
Baldwin has found his form over the past couple of months and is now playing as the defender everyone was hoping he would be from the start. He plays a huge amount of ice time and is probably our #1 d-man (in Doug's eyes at least), so it's beneficial to Panthers that he will be missing this game.
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Post by Rob Scott on Feb 5, 2014 14:51:47 GMT
Baldwin has found his form over the past couple of months and is now playing as the defender everyone was hoping he would be from the start. He plays a huge amount of ice time and is probably our #1 d-man (in Doug's eyes at least), so it's beneficial to Panthers that he will be missing this game. I will take your word for it but it must have been a huge turn around. He was nothing short of horrific in the games I have seen him in so far.
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Post by kgw on Feb 5, 2014 15:06:56 GMT
Yeah he was bad at the start (although I think he was used as a scapegoat for Steelers poor form for a while) but has been playing much better lately. It's either him or Kohn as the #1.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Feb 5, 2014 15:21:44 GMT
Baldwin has found his form over the past couple of months and is now playing as the defender everyone was hoping he would be from the start. He plays a huge amount of ice time and is probably our #1 d-man (in Doug's eyes at least), so it's beneficial to Panthers that he will be missing this game. On the TV game the other day he looked very good I have to say and a different player to the one we saw before (6 or 8 times over the last few weeks...) against us.
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Post by andrew1972 on Feb 5, 2014 17:50:09 GMT
Baldwin has found his form over the past couple of months and is now playing as the defender everyone was hoping he would be from the start. He plays a huge amount of ice time and is probably our #1 d-man (in Doug's eyes at least), so it's beneficial to Panthers that he will be missing this game. On the TV game the other day he looked very good I have to say and a different player to the one we saw before (6 or 8 times over the last few weeks...) against us. Yeah, I agree with KGW. Baldwin has been our best D man over the last 3 weeks or so. He seems to have finally adjusted to the bigger ice surface and is now playing really well. Jumping in to the play when required, very strong on the boards and he's just started laying some monster hits too. He will be a big miss for us on D. I'd assume that we will probably rest Meyer on Saturday (ankle injury by all accounts) and bring Spencer back in to play on D.
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Post by andrew1972 on Feb 5, 2014 17:54:44 GMT
With regard to the sold out signs, I think that's a pretty good effort for a game that pretty much means nothing in the grand scheme of things.
I think it also opens up the rivalry debate a little too. It's clear quite a few that post on here believe the Coventry games are the bigger rivalry and I can understand why. We haven't had a proper Nottingham/Sheffield game for a while now, whilst you and Coventry have been kicking lumps out of each other since Team Hollywood. But until the wider fan base cottons on to this idea and the sold out signs go up for the Coventry games and not the Sheffield games, then clearly, in the majority of supporters eyes (who don't post on here), the games with Sheffield are bigger.
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Post by panthersdave on Feb 5, 2014 19:01:49 GMT
With regard to the sold out signs, I think that's a pretty good effort for a game that pretty much means nothing in the grand scheme of things. I think it also opens up the rivalry debate a little too. It's clear quite a few that post on here believe the Coventry games are the bigger rivalry and I can understand why. We haven't had a proper Nottingham/Sheffield game for a while now, whilst you and Coventry have been kicking lumps out of each other since Team Hollywood. But until the wider fan base cottons on to this idea and the sold out signs go up for the Coventry games and not the Sheffield games, then clearly, in the majority of supporters eyes (who don't post on here), the games with Sheffield are bigger. No, in Nottingham people who dont go to games still think the rivalry with Steelers is the biggest. Theres an awful lot of people who will be at the game as the start of a Saturday night out. They will expect a war and will assume thats always the case for these games. Its just lack of knowledge of recent history that causes these games to still be popular.
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Post by andrew1972 on Feb 5, 2014 19:18:52 GMT
With regard to the sold out signs, I think that's a pretty good effort for a game that pretty much means nothing in the grand scheme of things. I think it also opens up the rivalry debate a little too. It's clear quite a few that post on here believe the Coventry games are the bigger rivalry and I can understand why. We haven't had a proper Nottingham/Sheffield game for a while now, whilst you and Coventry have been kicking lumps out of each other since Team Hollywood. But until the wider fan base cottons on to this idea and the sold out signs go up for the Coventry games and not the Sheffield games, then clearly, in the majority of supporters eyes (who don't post on here), the games with Sheffield are bigger. No, in Nottingham people who dont go to games still think the rivalry with Steelers is the biggest. Theres an awful lot of people who will be at the game as the start of a Saturday night out. They will expect a war and will assume thats always the case for these games. Its just lack of knowledge of recent history that causes these games to still be popular. I'm assuming your saying that the 1500 or so extra fans to normal will all be going to their first ever Steelers game before their Saturday night out, otherwise they'd know there won't be a war. Sorry Dave, I don't buy that. I take on board that your arena positioning is perfectly suited to what you say, and it does happen of course, I just don't think you manage to find 1500 x 4 games (min) every single season who are going just for the "war". I'd suggest it's not a lack of knowledge but more a majority of those extra people do still believe this is the bigger game of the two. Your rivalry with Coventry has been going for a number of seasons now, plenty of time for that "knowledge" to have been passed around.
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Post by panthersdave on Feb 5, 2014 19:22:09 GMT
No, in Nottingham people who dont go to games still think the rivalry with Steelers is the biggest. Theres an awful lot of people who will be at the game as the start of a Saturday night out. They will expect a war and will assume thats always the case for these games. Its just lack of knowledge of recent history that causes these games to still be popular. I'm assuming your saying that the 1500 or so extra fans to normal will all be going to their first ever Steelers game before their Saturday night out, otherwise they'd know there won't be a war. Sorry Dave, I don't buy that. I take on board that your arena positioning is perfectly suited to what you say, and it does happen of course, I just don't think you manage to find 1500 x 4 games (min) every single season who are going just for the "war". I'd suggest it's not a lack of knowledge but more a majority of those extra people do still believe this is the bigger game of the two. Your rivalry with Coventry has been going for a number of seasons now, plenty of time for that "knowledge" to have been passed around. Maybe war was a bit strong, but yeah many of those extras will still believe this to be the biggest rivalry and these are the games they look for when the fixtures come out. The Coventry rivalry is certainly less well known amongst occasional fans
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Post by andrew1972 on Feb 5, 2014 19:36:28 GMT
I'm assuming your saying that the 1500 or so extra fans to normal will all be going to their first ever Steelers game before their Saturday night out, otherwise they'd know there won't be a war. Sorry Dave, I don't buy that. I take on board that your arena positioning is perfectly suited to what you say, and it does happen of course, I just don't think you manage to find 1500 x 4 games (min) every single season who are going just for the "war". I'd suggest it's not a lack of knowledge but more a majority of those extra people do still believe this is the bigger game of the two. Your rivalry with Coventry has been going for a number of seasons now, plenty of time for that "knowledge" to have been passed around. Maybe war was a bit strong, but yeah many of those extras will still believe this to be the biggest rivalry and these are the games they look for when the fixtures come out. The Coventry rivalry is certainly less well known amongst occasional fans I don't disagree with you in most of it Dave but until the roles are reversed and you are selling out Coventry games and only getting 5,000 to Sheffield games then the wider fanbase (away from the minority that post on here) still believe the Sheffield games are the biggest. Being a Sheffield United fan our biggest rivalry is with Wednesday but actually the games we've played against Doncaster and Rotherham more recently have been far more interesting/exciting than the last few Sheffield derbies. But that doesn't mean the games with Doncaster/Rotherham are bigger, they aren't. The Sheffield derby is what the missing 10,000 come out for and that will always be the case no matter how dull the games can be.
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Post by dp on Feb 5, 2014 19:43:33 GMT
I think a big factor in the Sheffield games selling out is that they're the only ones advertised by the arena - they're the only Panthers games which are listed on their flyers, alongside all the concerts and shows.
And the appeal to the occasional fan is probably more about the atmosphere than the game - the difference in even background noise between a 5,000 crowd and a 7,000 crowd is massive.
Having said that, didn't we get about 6,000 for the last Coventry game? Add a couple of hundred extra away fans and there's not a lot in it.
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Post by panthersdave on Feb 5, 2014 19:44:01 GMT
Maybe war was a bit strong, but yeah many of those extras will still believe this to be the biggest rivalry and these are the games they look for when the fixtures come out. The Coventry rivalry is certainly less well known amongst occasional fans I don't disagree with you in most of it Dave but until the roles are reversed and you are selling out Coventry games and only getting 5,000 to Sheffield games then the wider fanbase (away from the minority that post on here) still believe the Sheffield games are the biggest. Being a Sheffield United fan our biggest rivalry is with Wednesday but actually the games we've played against Doncaster and Rotherham more recently have been far more interesting/exciting than the last few Sheffield derbies. But that doesn't mean the games with Doncaster/Rotherham are bigger, they aren't. The Sheffield derby is what the missing 10,000 come out for and that will always be the case no matter how dull the games can be. Oh absolutely and a lot of the rivalry is historical - as most are. I feel though that the rivalry has gone very stale in recent years. I mean a golf comp between the clubs, seriously?? This is just my opinion but I feel the rivalry needs a spark or the Coventry one could take over.
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Post by blackpanther2011 on Feb 5, 2014 20:01:22 GMT
Panthers V sheffield is as big if not bigger as Ducks Vs. Kings in the NHL.
I was lucky just to get tickets for the 28th dec game and was gutted when we lost in OT.
just hope its a cracking game all around, Ref to ACTUALLY do his job and Panthers to Banish the 28th Dec game and the previous three. So we get confidence for the Challenge Cup next week.
I expect close game, Panthers to win 3-1
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Post by panthersdave on Feb 5, 2014 20:05:47 GMT
Panthers V sheffield is as big if not bigger as Ducks Vs. Kings in the NHL. I was lucky just to get tickets for the 28th dec game and was gutted when we lost in OT. just hope its a cracking game all around, Ref to ACTUALLY do his job and Panthers to Banish the 28th Dec game and the previous three. So we get confidence for the Challenge Cup next week. I expect close game, Panthers to win 3-1 I dont buy for one minute that this game is bigger than an nhl local rivalry
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Post by panthertom93 on Feb 5, 2014 21:27:06 GMT
No, in Nottingham people who dont go to games still think the rivalry with Steelers is the biggest. Theres an awful lot of people who will be at the game as the start of a Saturday night out. They will expect a war and will assume thats always the case for these games. Its just lack of knowledge of recent history that causes these games to still be popular. I'm assuming your saying that the 1500 or so extra fans to normal will all be going to their first ever Steelers game before their Saturday night out, otherwise they'd know there won't be a war. Sorry Dave, I don't buy that. I take on board that your arena positioning is perfectly suited to what you say, and it does happen of course, I just don't think you manage to find 1500 x 4 games (min) every single season who are going just for the "war". I'd suggest it's not a lack of knowledge but more a majority of those extra people do still believe this is the bigger game of the two. Your rivalry with Coventry has been going for a number of seasons now, plenty of time for that "knowledge" to have been passed around. I see your point Andrew, but another factor is the away support. Coventry will NEVER bring the amount of fans that Sheffield do so therefore we'd need even more panthers fans to make it an official sell out. I can see it happening in the near future though. If Coventry became a title challenger again, it'd really fuel it.
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Post by andrew1972 on Feb 6, 2014 1:16:23 GMT
I don't disagree with you in most of it Dave but until the roles are reversed and you are selling out Coventry games and only getting 5,000 to Sheffield games then the wider fanbase (away from the minority that post on here) still believe the Sheffield games are the biggest. Being a Sheffield United fan our biggest rivalry is with Wednesday but actually the games we've played against Doncaster and Rotherham more recently have been far more interesting/exciting than the last few Sheffield derbies. But that doesn't mean the games with Doncaster/Rotherham are bigger, they aren't. The Sheffield derby is what the missing 10,000 come out for and that will always be the case no matter how dull the games can be. Oh absolutely and a lot of the rivalry is historical - as most are. I feel though that the rivalry has gone very stale in recent years. I mean a golf comp between the clubs, seriously?? This is just my opinion but I feel the rivalry needs a spark or the Coventry one could take over. I can't disagree with any of that. Let's hope for some kind of spark on Saturday night. Might just bring the old feeling back.
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Post by andrew1972 on Feb 6, 2014 1:29:43 GMT
I'm assuming your saying that the 1500 or so extra fans to normal will all be going to their first ever Steelers game before their Saturday night out, otherwise they'd know there won't be a war. Sorry Dave, I don't buy that. I take on board that your arena positioning is perfectly suited to what you say, and it does happen of course, I just don't think you manage to find 1500 x 4 games (min) every single season who are going just for the "war". I'd suggest it's not a lack of knowledge but more a majority of those extra people do still believe this is the bigger game of the two. Your rivalry with Coventry has been going for a number of seasons now, plenty of time for that "knowledge" to have been passed around. I see your point Andrew, but another factor is the away support. Coventry will NEVER bring the amount of fans that Sheffield do so therefore we'd need even more panthers fans to make it an official sell out. I can see it happening in the near future though. If Coventry became a title challenger again, it'd really fuel it. Agreed Tom. It's certainly a rivalry that's growing and it has to be good for the league as a whole. The more rivalries the better in my book. We used to have a major rivalry with Cardiff when we first came on the scene in the 90's but their fall from grace pretty much killed that off as they became less of a competitor and our rivalry with you grew. The only issue I can see with the Coventry rivalry is once these players that have that, for want of a better word, "hate" for each other, have left both clubs, will it remain the same. It's what's happened between us and you. We had years of certain players on both sides having grievances with each other, Nieckar, Allison, Vial, Darling, Plommer, Cranston, Hadden, Hunt and many others. These players seemed to have a genuine dislike of each other and it's something that's been missing between us for a few years. Maybe if Henley and Spencer hang around for another year that could be one that develops. They seem to have a dislike of each other. Of course it always helped having a coach (Blaisdell) speaking in the press in the lead up to the games stoking the fires when he was coach of both teams.
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Post by andrew1972 on Feb 6, 2014 1:32:04 GMT
I think a big factor in the Sheffield games selling out is that they're the only ones advertised by the arena - they're the only Panthers games which are listed on their flyers, alongside all the concerts and shows. And the appeal to the occasional fan is probably more about the atmosphere than the game - the difference in even background noise between a 5,000 crowd and a 7,000 crowd is massive. Having said that, didn't we get about 6,000 for the last Coventry game? Add a couple of hundred extra away fans and there's not a lot in it. Yes, I think you did. Although, how much of that was swelled by the handshake punch up just a week before?
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Post by sameagain on Feb 6, 2014 6:19:36 GMT
What's Spencer going to do to make it more of a rivalry?
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