Joe
Jim Keyes
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Post by Joe on Aug 14, 2024 10:53:46 GMT
So the 3 signings yesterday on 2 ways aren’t counted towards filling the roster? Two more still to expected? They count towards the total amount you’re allowed to sign in a season but they won’t play unless we’re short so people don’t count them in the starting roster so 2 more imports to announce
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Post by rexkramer on Aug 14, 2024 11:03:03 GMT
These last two signings can’t afford to be cheap options now… as Belfast and Steelers looked stacked… Cardiff look decent too…. Don’t get these signings right and we’ll finish mid table again, although we look good currently, need to elevate on to Steelers/Giants/Cardiffs level Given we finished 9th last year (albeit not a true reflection of the quality of the side), I'll be happy with top half, making play-off weekend and being in a position to keep a minimum 10 players including at least one netminder. That'll be progress after recent years.
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Post by notts1999 on Aug 14, 2024 11:05:43 GMT
These last two signings can’t afford to be cheap options now… as Belfast and Steelers looked stacked… Cardiff look decent too…. Don’t get these signings right and we’ll finish mid table again, although we look good currently, need to elevate on to Steelers/Giants/Cardiffs level Given we finished 9th last year (albeit not a true reflection of the quality of the side), I'll be happy with top half, making play-off weekend and being in a position to keep a minimum 10 players including at least one netminder. That'll be progress after recent years. [b Agreed but I’d change to id be happy with top 4
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Post by TjPanther on Aug 14, 2024 12:25:23 GMT
Given we finished 9th last year (albeit not a true reflection of the quality of the side), I'll be happy with top half, making play-off weekend and being in a position to keep a minimum 10 players including at least one netminder. That'll be progress after recent years. [b Agreed but I’d change to id be happy with top 4 Sadly, I don’t think we’re part of a Big 4 club anymore. Hopefully it changes this season and we get back to where winning ways but after past few years. we can’t really say we’re challenging or even regularly competing with the likes of Cardiff, Sheffield and Belfast. Take out the eihl series for Covid and last season for an obvious reasons doesn’t look great reading. Just shows a steady decline since the 2013 title win.
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Post by wgray on Aug 14, 2024 12:28:45 GMT
Imo this squad is 2 decent players away from looking decent compared to any other team. Why don’t we have a go. We averaged 5000 a game last season, we look like we’ve made strides off-ice with a new university link setup, changed our major sponsor strategy. We are a big club that’s historically underperformed. Last season was the toughest test we’ve faced as a club.
Let’s make a proper go of it.
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Post by jab5741 on Aug 14, 2024 12:30:15 GMT
Depends on how much they've spent on tempting Herr back. The money pot is only soo big. We had to buy Herr out his contract as he had a year left where he was, plus salary for the season ahead. guessing it took a large chunk out the budget. But as someone else said, we might (whether through choice or budget reasons) be waiting for a few bargains to come out of the try outs from bigger leagues. I believe that we have, by a considerable margin, the biggest budget we’ve ever had for the coming season. Having said that, it seems that Sheffield, Cardiff and Belfast have gone even further than us. I worry that the league will become unsustainable in the long run and we’ll have the ISL 2.0 on our hands very soon.
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Post by bobness on Aug 14, 2024 13:09:31 GMT
We had to buy Herr out his contract as he had a year left where he was, plus salary for the season ahead. guessing it took a large chunk out the budget. But as someone else said, we might (whether through choice or budget reasons) be waiting for a few bargains to come out of the try outs from bigger leagues. I believe that we have, by a considerable margin, the biggest budget we’ve ever had for the coming season. Having said that, it seems that Sheffield, Cardiff and Belfast have gone even further than us. I worry that the league will become unsustainable in the long run and we’ll have the ISL 2.0 on our hands very soon. That is starting to be a concern for me, to be fair. For all the "I look forward to bringing some silverware to ..." quotes, you wonder where any serious challenge to the "big 3" can come from? Guildford could, and arguably should. gave won the league a couple of seasons back, but it's hard to see 4 or 5 teams coming anywhere near that? But isn't that the way of life? Look at the Premiership, for example. Any wage cap seems to be out of the window, in reality?
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Post by jab5741 on Aug 14, 2024 13:19:01 GMT
I believe that we have, by a considerable margin, the biggest budget we’ve ever had for the coming season. Having said that, it seems that Sheffield, Cardiff and Belfast have gone even further than us. I worry that the league will become unsustainable in the long run and we’ll have the ISL 2.0 on our hands very soon. That is starting to be a concern for me, to be fair. For all the "I look forward to bringing some silverware to ..." quotes, you wonder where any serious challenge to the "big 3" can come from? Guildford could, and arguably should. gave won the league a couple of seasons back, but it's hard to see 4 or 5 teams coming anywhere near that? But isn't that the way of life? Look at the Premiership, for example. Any wage cap seems to be out of the window, in reality? A big gulf between the arena teams and rink teams will be the last of everyone’s worries if the spending spirals out of control and teams go way beyond their means and end up going bust. A wage cap never was and never will be the answer in this league as there’s far too many loopholes for teams to exploit it. Much like the whole injury reserve nonsense to get around the import signing limit.
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Post by Bagheera on Aug 14, 2024 15:22:41 GMT
It's been known to announce players along with Jersey reveals in past seasons as players arrive.
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Post by chucka1 on Aug 14, 2024 16:28:22 GMT
From the clues on Twitter I'd go for Reid Stefanson.
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Post by pantherlee on Aug 14, 2024 16:49:29 GMT
From the clues on Twitter I'd go for Reid Stefanson. That’s what I thought too only from the Vienna reference. Don’t know what the lobster line means?
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Post by chucka1 on Aug 14, 2024 17:01:41 GMT
I assumed Maine lobster - which fits.
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Mythosman
Matt Myers
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Post by Mythosman on Aug 14, 2024 17:02:30 GMT
From the clues on Twitter I'd go for Reid Stefanson. That’s what I thought too only from the Vienna reference. Don’t know what the lobster line means? The lobster reference refers to Maine (Mariners), where Stefanson was before Vienna!
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Post by pantherlee on Aug 16, 2024 11:59:38 GMT
So players are here and on the ice with a player still to announce. Assuming he’s already signed leaving it this long seems a little ridiculous to me. And if we’re still looking then that’s unacceptable
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Post by bobness on Aug 16, 2024 12:59:11 GMT
So players are here and on the ice with a player still to announce. Assuming he’s already signed leaving it this long seems a little ridiculous to me. And if we’re still looking then that’s unacceptable Bit glass is half empty? Who knows what and why? If we’re waiting for some higher league camps to shake out, it could be a master stroke. No panics yet.
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Post by pantherlee on Aug 16, 2024 13:29:31 GMT
So players are here and on the ice with a player still to announce. Assuming he’s already signed leaving it this long seems a little ridiculous to me. And if we’re still looking then that’s unacceptable Bit glass is half empty? Who knows what and why? If we’re waiting for some higher league camps to shake out, it could be a master stroke. No panics yet. Call it what you want but I don’t see the big clubs struggling to get a roster together without waiting for camps to finish. That may not even be true if we’re lead to believe that the player is already signed. I thinks it’s just professional to have your complete roster signed and here for the first day of training
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Post by bobness on Aug 16, 2024 13:50:35 GMT
Bit glass is half empty? Who knows what and why? If we’re waiting for some higher league camps to shake out, it could be a master stroke. No panics yet. Call it what you want but I don’t see the big clubs struggling to get a roster together without waiting for camps to finish. That may not even be true if we’re lead to believe that the player is already signed. I thinks it’s just professional to have your complete roster signed and here for the first day of training Think this is one of those times you have to trust in the people who do this for a living.
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Post by sevcik on Aug 16, 2024 16:36:52 GMT
Bit glass is half empty? Who knows what and why? If we’re waiting for some higher league camps to shake out, it could be a master stroke. No panics yet. Call it what you want but I don’t see the big clubs struggling to get a roster together without waiting for camps to finish. That may not even be true if we’re lead to believe that the player is already signed. I thinks it’s just professional to have your complete roster signed and here for the first day of training Cardiff have two imports that have yet to arrive - missing the start of their training camp and the Devils games this weekend (Riley Brant & Kohen Olishchefski). Does that make them unprofessional too?
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Post by rexkramer on Aug 16, 2024 16:52:39 GMT
Brandt missing actually improves their team.
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Post by pantherlee on Aug 16, 2024 17:01:20 GMT
Call it what you want but I don’t see the big clubs struggling to get a roster together without waiting for camps to finish. That may not even be true if we’re lead to believe that the player is already signed. I thinks it’s just professional to have your complete roster signed and here for the first day of training Cardiff have two imports that have yet to arrive - missing the start of their training camp and the Devils games this weekend (Riley Brant & Kohen Olishchefski). Does that make them unprofessional too? Depends what the reason is. At least they’re announced though
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Post by float on Aug 16, 2024 19:54:29 GMT
So players are here and on the ice with a player still to announce. Assuming he’s already signed leaving it this long seems a little ridiculous to me. And if we’re still looking then that’s unacceptable Maybe they’ll do an interview this week with this ‘last import’ as part of his announcement? Nobody knows, relax, enjoy the last few days of the summer and let the club crack on, they’re the only folk who need to worry about sorting the players
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Post by blackandgold73 on Aug 16, 2024 23:07:16 GMT
So players are here and on the ice with a player still to announce. Assuming he’s already signed leaving it this long seems a little ridiculous to me. And if we’re still looking then that’s unacceptable Was it ridiculous last year? Was it unacceptable then as well? Or was it worth the wait? Just wondering as... ...we didn't announce Adam until the *25th* of August. So a full 9 days later than today. And I think it's safe to say that pretty much every other team was wishing they had that kind of impact announcement to make in the last days of August last year. Who knows what this year will bring in terms of the final signing but people were saying the same last year. Time will tell but it's definitely not unprecedented and clearly not a negative simply because others have completed rosters. Same situation last year and nobody ultimately felt it was either ridiculous or unacceptable so...
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Post by blackandgold73 on Aug 16, 2024 23:11:08 GMT
So players are here and on the ice with a player still to announce. Assuming he’s already signed leaving it this long seems a little ridiculous to me. And if we’re still looking then that’s unacceptable Bit glass is half empty? Who knows what and why? If we’re waiting for some higher league camps to shake out, it could be a master stroke. No panics yet. Exactly Two words: Adam Johnson. Was definitely worth the wait and the envy of all those teams who's roster was finished long before his late announcement.
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Post by wgray on Aug 16, 2024 23:14:39 GMT
So players are here and on the ice with a player still to announce. Assuming he’s already signed leaving it this long seems a little ridiculous to me. And if we’re still looking then that’s unacceptable Maybe they’ll do an interview this week with this ‘last import’ as part of his announcement? Nobody knows, relax, enjoy the last few days of the summer and let the club crack on, they’re the only folk who need to worry about sorting the players That would be a good way to reveal the last dman
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Post by Yotes on Aug 16, 2024 23:37:32 GMT
So players are here and on the ice with a player still to announce. Assuming he’s already signed leaving it this long seems a little ridiculous to me. And if we’re still looking then that’s unacceptable Was it ridiculous last year? Was it unacceptable then as well? Or was it worth the wait? Just wondering as... ...we didn't announce Adam until the *25th* of August. So a full 9 days later than today. And I think it's safe to say that pretty much every other team was wishing they had that kind of impact announcement to make in the last days of August last year. Who knows what this year will bring in terms of the final signing but people were saying the same last year. Time will tell but it's definitely not unprecedented and clearly not a negative simply because others have completed rosters. Same situation last year and nobody ultimately felt it was either ridiculous or unacceptable so... Not that I'm especially bothered if we're complete yet or not, but we also started later last year - first pre-season game was September 9th, pre-season the week prior. I'd like to have them all in place for the start of training camp ideally, give us the best chance to get off to a good start. I think in recent years we've been much better at that than the old days.
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