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Post by iginla on Dec 21, 2015 17:29:02 GMT
It's all about the regular couple of thousand diehards and the loud ones all being closer together. Away games and play off weekend prove that theory.
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Post by randomfifer29 on Dec 21, 2015 17:44:19 GMT
Might be to due with going behind 2 goals... again... Hard to get enthusiastic when there is little to get enthusiastic about... This. Also Fife used to have an amazing atmosphere but this year you can hear a pin drop there. No wonder. We have an appalling dj, a shocking team and no players to get excited about...Dwindling crowds and only one "Flyerssss" chant..
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Post by Dan on Dec 22, 2015 13:23:24 GMT
Feel free to go anywhere else in the league or the NHL - atmosphere for a standard game really isn't that good anywhere. Sure, it was electric in Cardiff the other week but the noise in our last home game vs Sheffield was too. People don't always go to games to sing, some people just like to watch.
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Post by hallsy666 on Dec 22, 2015 16:31:26 GMT
The idea of getting people that are willing to sing and chant sitting together sounds right to me.
This is my Friday season as a season tick holder and last year was my first as a panther. I didn't knew where to sit so just picked where was a decent view and a silver price bracket and landed in 116. if I had know of an area where more diehard fans sat I would of probably picked there as I love the atmosphere at away games would be great to have it at Home too.
It's not something the club will ask us to do or arrange GM the GM don't care. but us as fans would have to sought out. It's a lot to ask to get people moving season tickets around with the extra cost and allot of people wouldn't want to move from where they have sat for years.
Maybe for next season ask your friends from around the rink and who you know from away games and such, get it out on social media and forums that for example to sit in block 115 116 and 117 one of each price range and let it be known that you want to contribute to atmosphere sit there.
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Post by kievthegreat on Dec 22, 2015 16:52:23 GMT
The idea of getting people that are willing to sing and chant sitting together sounds right to me. This is my Friday season as a season tick holder and last year was my first as a panther. I didn't knew where to sit so just picked where was a decent view and a silver price bracket and landed in 116. if I had know of an area where more diehard fans sat I would of probably picked there as I love the atmosphere at away games would be great to have it at Home too. It's not something the club will ask us to do or arrange GM the GM don't care. but us as fans would have to sought out. It's a lot to ask to get people moving season tickets around with the extra cost and allot of people wouldn't want to move from where they have sat for years. Maybe for next season ask your friends from around the rink and who you know from away games and such, get it out on social media and forums that for example to sit in block 115 116 and 117 one of each price range and let it be known that you want to contribute to atmosphere sit there. I presume you mean blocks 15, 16 & 17? Although it's worth noting that 16 and 17 are both silver.
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Post by Lucy on Dec 22, 2015 16:58:55 GMT
Banning mobile phones whilst the game is in play would be a good start......because every time I glance around 40% of the crowd are messing around with one !!!!!!!! Hmm, that's me - updating score to those not at the game!
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Post by hallsy666 on Dec 22, 2015 17:01:22 GMT
My mistake I didn't proof read my message and well that I didn't know i could of sworn the corner block where bronze. The idea still stands tho right in theory just minus that bronze or gold block it dosent matter what block or where abouts was a bad example of my idea.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Dec 22, 2015 17:13:54 GMT
If you put any team in the NIC with the average age of our fans it wouldn't be any louder.
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Post by titch on Dec 22, 2015 17:43:47 GMT
If you put any team in the NIC with the average age of our fans it wouldn't be any louder. Sorry but I don't agree. Because I've only been to a limited amount of games, maybe I'm not experienced to disagree but I've seen all sorts of atmospheres from awful (Cardiff last game) to insanely good with my hairs on end (Period 3 loss to Steelers), I don't believe it has anything to do with age, I just think a lot of glass half empty fans turn up to the games, rather than get behind the team when they're losing, they choose to show their disgust by sitting there all grumpy until we score! It only takes 2/3 blocks of loyal/dedicated/loud fans to create an atmosphere for everybody else to join in.. If 30% of people in ALL blocks chant "Lets go panthers", the atmosphere would be a lot lower than if 100% of people in 3 blocks chant "Lets go panthers" as you are guaranteed that at least most of the other blocks will join in when they hear a loud chant! I understand some people don't want to join in and just come to watch the game. Some people are obviously a lot older than my age group too and physically can't join in due to age, but I absolutely guarantee you that if GM opened up Blocks 14, 15 & 16 as season ticket holders prio and put some attention & detail in to selling these seats for loud & proud fans, they'd sell instantly and be the hottest tickets going, obviously the back seats would be harder to sell but can be purchased by non season ticket holders after the initial season ticket sales are done. I also understand that some people love their own seats and have been sitting in the same block/seat for years and wouldn't want to move but they wouldn't be forced too as they could purchase their season ticket in their normal place. There is so many benefits to having a good atmosphere and that can be anything from intimidating the opposition team (Most of the teams only play in front of 1000-2000 fans) to giving the extra energy and adrenaline to OUR players to push them over the line. We WANT teams to come to the NIC and find it hard to play against us, not just because of our team but because of our loyal fans. We HAVE the fans, we just don't have the organisation from the management team in place.
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Post by titch on Dec 22, 2015 17:46:57 GMT
Banning mobile phones whilst the game is in play would be a good start......because every time I glance around 40% of the crowd are messing around with one !!!!!!!! Hmm, that's me - updating score to those not at the game! That's the correct way to use a phone while watching, the fans appreciate what you do! But I agree, too many "fans" sitting on facebook or snapchat during the game which makes it impossible for them to clap or join in.
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Post by nate24 on Dec 22, 2015 17:56:52 GMT
I saw a guy watching the rugby and then constantly ask what he missed. ALL GAME!
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Post by Yotes on Dec 22, 2015 18:03:44 GMT
I absolutely guarantee you that if GM opened up Blocks 14, 15 & 16 as season ticket holders prio and put some attention & detail in to selling these seats for loud & proud fans, they'd sell instantly and be the hottest tickets going, obviously the back seats would be harder to sell but can be purchased by non season ticket holders after the initial season ticket sales are done. I think you'd be surprised. Last year we had our noisiest lot in block 18, they allowed people to move season tickets to 18 if they wanted to join in etc, there was a reasonable turnout, but not thousands by any stretch. Then this year, by all accounts, Gary put the price up and closed it down. TFS is right I think, the age of our fanbase makes a big difference, we've had fans who've been there, done that, got the t-shirt, lost the t-shirt, got a new t-shirt etc etc. It's unlikely they'll want to be chanting all game, they've likely done all that before some of us were born, hence we get the clap clap songs from Ken, which they will join with because it's easy. Dan's right too, bigger arena crowds can often be quite quiet, it's easier to make a great sound when you're in a cramped bear pit of a rink. It's a noble ideal, and I agree I'd like it to be like the 3rd period of that Sheffield game was a lot more of the time, but I reckon you're going to have to get used to it and do what you can amongst your own group in the venue.
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Post by nate24 on Dec 22, 2015 18:09:44 GMT
I absolutely guarantee you that if GM opened up Blocks 14, 15 & 16 as season ticket holders prio and put some attention & detail in to selling these seats for loud & proud fans, they'd sell instantly and be the hottest tickets going, obviously the back seats would be harder to sell but can be purchased by non season ticket holders after the initial season ticket sales are done. I think you'd be surprised. Last year we had our noisiest lot in block 18, they allowed people to move season tickets to 18 if they wanted to join in etc, there was a reasonable turnout, but not thousands by any stretch. Then this year, by all accounts, Gary put the price up and closed it down. TFS is right I think, the age of our fanbase makes a big difference, we've had fans who've been there, done that, got the t-shirt, lost the t-shirt, got a new t-shirt etc etc. It's unlikely they'll want to be chanting all game, they've likely done all that before some of us were born, hence we get the clap clap songs from Ken, which they will join with because it's easy. Dan's right too, bigger arena crowds can often be quite quiet, it's easier to make a great sound when you're in a cramped bear pit of a rink. It's a noble ideal, and I agree I'd like it to be like the 3rd period of that Sheffield game was a lot more of the time, but I reckon you're going to have to get used to it and do what you can amongst your own group in the venue. I hate the front office of this organisation. Smug, arrogant and forgetful as who puts the money in the coffers.
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Post by hallsy666 on Dec 22, 2015 18:11:51 GMT
I never moved to block 18 because of where it was I like to sit along the side, moving would of ment giving up a good view for a worse one. I can't help but feel this would be a shared feeling by allot of people but maybe it's just me.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Dec 22, 2015 18:21:17 GMT
If you want more noise and atmosphere go along to WWE and TNX at the NIC to see how it's done. A bit daft I know but that's how it's done.
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Post by wgray on Dec 22, 2015 18:40:18 GMT
An ideal block if people wanted too create a block for people to chant and create an atmosphere would be block 14 or 16 towards the back of the blocks, they are both silver blocks but still give a good view of the ice.
Another point is that those blocks are closer towards the bulk of our fans, the issue I found with the block 18 army was that they were tucked in the corner out of the way and couldn't get the rest of the arena going as you could here them very well, what do people think?
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Post by Dan on Dec 22, 2015 18:55:19 GMT
If you put any team in the NIC with the average age of our fans it wouldn't be any louder. Sorry but I don't agree. Because I've only been to a limited amount of games, maybe I'm not experienced to disagree but I've seen all sorts of atmospheres from awful (Cardiff last game) to insanely good with my hairs on end (Period 3 loss to Steelers), I don't believe it has anything to do with age, I just think a lot of glass half empty fans turn up to the games, rather than get behind the team when they're losing, they choose to show their disgust by sitting there all grumpy until we score! It only takes 2/3 blocks of loyal/dedicated/loud fans to create an atmosphere for everybody else to join in.. If 30% of people in ALL blocks chant "Lets go panthers", the atmosphere would be a lot lower than if 100% of people in 3 blocks chant "Lets go panthers" as you are guaranteed that at least most of the other blocks will join in when they hear a loud chant! I understand some people don't want to join in and just come to watch the game. Some people are obviously a lot older than my age group too and physically can't join in due to age, but I absolutely guarantee you that if GM opened up Blocks 14, 15 & 16 as season ticket holders prio and put some attention & detail in to selling these seats for loud & proud fans, they'd sell instantly and be the hottest tickets going, obviously the back seats would be harder to sell but can be purchased by non season ticket holders after the initial season ticket sales are done. I also understand that some people love their own seats and have been sitting in the same block/seat for years and wouldn't want to move but they wouldn't be forced too as they could purchase their season ticket in their normal place. There is so many benefits to having a good atmosphere and that can be anything from intimidating the opposition team (Most of the teams only play in front of 1000-2000 fans) to giving the extra energy and adrenaline to OUR players to push them over the line. We WANT teams to come to the NIC and find it hard to play against us, not just because of our team but because of our loyal fans. We HAVE the fans, we just don't have the organisation from the management team in place. I think you over-state how many people want to scream and shout at games anywhere, not just at the NIC. I think you're also being a little insulting to people by suggesting that you're not dedicated unless you chant all the time. My ma n pa are in their 25th year (or something like) and they don't really sing.
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Post by Pies on Dec 22, 2015 19:11:22 GMT
When there's things going off on the ice to cheer for, the place is rocking. A forgettable team but who remembers the team that won the challenge cup two years ago. We were 3 goals down going into the second leg and we won on penalty shots - I just remember it getting louder. And that was recent. Nothing to do with where fans sit, it to do with the lads on the ice going for it 100%. A lot of the season ticket holders are long in the tooth myself included and need that reason to shout because like yotes said seve been around the block a few times. I'd suggest you tubing some of our games to see when the crowd was loud
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Post by Pies on Dec 22, 2015 19:11:42 GMT
Sorry but I don't agree. Because I've only been to a limited amount of games, maybe I'm not experienced to disagree but I've seen all sorts of atmospheres from awful (Cardiff last game) to insanely good with my hairs on end (Period 3 loss to Steelers), I don't believe it has anything to do with age, I just think a lot of glass half empty fans turn up to the games, rather than get behind the team when they're losing, they choose to show their disgust by sitting there all grumpy until we score! It only takes 2/3 blocks of loyal/dedicated/loud fans to create an atmosphere for everybody else to join in.. If 30% of people in ALL blocks chant "Lets go panthers", the atmosphere would be a lot lower than if 100% of people in 3 blocks chant "Lets go panthers" as you are guaranteed that at least most of the other blocks will join in when they hear a loud chant! I understand some people don't want to join in and just come to watch the game. Some people are obviously a lot older than my age group too and physically can't join in due to age, but I absolutely guarantee you that if GM opened up Blocks 14, 15 & 16 as season ticket holders prio and put some attention & detail in to selling these seats for loud & proud fans, they'd sell instantly and be the hottest tickets going, obviously the back seats would be harder to sell but can be purchased by non season ticket holders after the initial season ticket sales are done. I also understand that some people love their own seats and have been sitting in the same block/seat for years and wouldn't want to move but they wouldn't be forced too as they could purchase their season ticket in their normal place. There is so many benefits to having a good atmosphere and that can be anything from intimidating the opposition team (Most of the teams only play in front of 1000-2000 fans) to giving the extra energy and adrenaline to OUR players to push them over the line. We WANT teams to come to the NIC and find it hard to play against us, not just because of our team but because of our loyal fans. We HAVE the fans, we just don't have the organisation from the management team in place. I think you over-state how many people want to scream and shout at games anywhere, not just at the NIC. I think you're also being a little insulting to people by suggesting that you're not dedicated unless you chant all the time. My ma n pa are in their 25th year (or something like) and they don't really sing. I would pay to see the. Sing 100%
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Post by hallsy666 on Dec 22, 2015 19:36:04 GMT
An ideal block if people wanted too create a block for people to chant and create an atmosphere would be block 14 or 16 towards the back of the blocks, they are both silver blocks but still give a good view of the ice. Another point is that those blocks are closer towards the bulk of our fans, the issue I found with the block 18 army was that they were tucked in the corner out of the way and couldn't get the rest of the arena going as you could here them very well, what do people think? I agree about this being a cool idea and would great if it worked but I feel it's very unlikely to happen this season without the club saying something official about it and allowing moved season tickets. it's even a push to do for future seasons without the club saying about it in a official capacity unless anyone knows another way of organising such a thing.
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Post by iginla on Dec 22, 2015 19:44:43 GMT
The ideal blocks for the noisy crew would be 8 and 9. The top half of 8 is hardly populated at all,if it's full it's because that area is where they put the schools freebies along with block 17 I reckon you could get at least 400 noisy fans in 8 and 9 without having to move anybody who already has seats there.
Trying it last year but putting them right out of the way in 18,then putting the price up is just typical GM and typical Panthers I'm afraid.
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Post by titch on Dec 28, 2015 6:18:37 GMT
Apologies,
I didn't mean to make it sound like you're not a dedicated fan if you're not getting involved, I understand that not everybody wants to be part of the atmosphere. I just feel like the more 'non singers/clappers' mixed in through various blocks, makes the atmosphere impossible to create.
Take tonight for example, the atmosphere was amazing, especially during the pre-match build up from Ken (with the new intro, which was brilliant btw), but most of the chants failed during the game because most of the blocks have random part time fans who only appear during Christmas matches / Steelers matches. Don't get me wrong, I was at the Sheffield Arena on boxing day and their atmosphere was AWFUL due to their being 4000-5000 part time fans who only turn up for the Panthers match!
I also agree that if the boys are playing awful on the night, the atmosphere can be quite bad - saying that, if you see the highlights from when we beat the Steelers 4 - 1 at their arena, you can hear the Steelers fans continue to chant throughout the match. If this happened to us, most fans would end up leaving early and/or being completely silent and booing our players. I do wish somebody at the Panthers would give at least one season a shot at advertising 2 or 3 blocks that are classed as the loud&proud season ticket blocks, for those of us who want to give the boys more support.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2015 8:59:30 GMT
Thought the atmosphere last night was the best of any of the Panthers/Steelers games I have been to this season, barring the last ten minutes of the 6-4 comeback loss a few weeks back. Oh and I was actively looking out for it and hardly saw anyone on their phone while the puck was in play when usually I see a fair amount of it.
Maybe it really has got more to do with how the boys are doing on the ice?
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Post by Higgy on Dec 28, 2015 9:34:34 GMT
I thought the atmosphere last night was pretty poor to be honest! You could hear a pin drop in the 1st!
Got a bit better when we got those 2 quick goals in the 2nd but aside from that there didn't seem the 'buzz' you normally get for a Steelers game.
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Post by Rob Scott on Dec 28, 2015 10:40:26 GMT
I thought it was really quiet at 4-1 in the 2nd.
Hope we can get on a run now with an away victory at Coventry and then crank up the atmosphere at the New Years Eve game.
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