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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2015 23:15:58 GMT
This current team have NO passengers.... Lawrence would be the odd one out !!!! lets move on
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Post by BigLad on Oct 15, 2015 8:18:17 GMT
The criticism of Lawrence on this forum is embarrassingly laughable. By certain posters in-particular whose hockey knowledge suggests they should know better. I'd almost say there's a grudge against him for some reason. Fact is he was our top points scorer on what is accepted was a very poor squad. Ok, Doucet would have outscored him eventually no doubt, I accept that. He'll do great at Steelers, he has a top quality wrist shot finish for our level. Get him on the right team where he isn't top line & isn't expected to be the workhorse he clearly isn't & he'll score points galore. Providing they keep him, obviously. I find your defence of him laughable. I'd have taken Jade Galbraith over Lawrence every day of the week. Just because he could do it doesn't mean he was any good. He was lazy. If he looked like he actually gave a poo poo I don't think you'd find ANYONE on this forum criticising him.
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Post by ted logan on Oct 15, 2015 11:47:52 GMT
I'd have taken Jade Galbraith over Lawrence every day of the week. Same here and twice at weekends This current team have NO passengers.... Lawrence would be the odd one out !!!! Would anybody on here trade in any of this season's import forwards for Lawrence? I certainly wouldn't and I don't consider myself one of CL's biggest critics. We've just upgraded massively this season.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2015 12:51:31 GMT
The criticism of Lawrence on this forum is embarrassingly laughable. By certain posters in-particular whose hockey knowledge suggests they should know better. I'd almost say there's a grudge against him for some reason. Fact is he was our top points scorer on what is accepted was a very poor squad. Ok, Doucet would have outscored him eventually no doubt, I accept that. He'll do great at Steelers, he has a top quality wrist shot finish for our level. Get him on the right team where he isn't top line & isn't expected to be the workhorse he clearly isn't & he'll score points galore. Providing they keep him, obviously. I find your defence of him laughable. I'd have taken Jade Galbraith over Lawrence every day of the week. Just because he could do it doesn't mean he was any good. He was lazy. If he looked like he actually gave a poo poo I don't think you'd find ANYONE on this forum criticising him. It's worse than laughable
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Post by Yotes on Oct 15, 2015 13:19:22 GMT
I'd have taken Jade Galbraith over Lawrence every day of the week. Same here and twice at weekends Of course, but Galbraith was a much better player than Lawrence. I wasn't a fan last year, and didn't want him to return this, but for a guy who put up the majority of our points he does seem to have got a disproportionately high amount of criticism. I also find it odd how laziness gets used on here, sometimes it's a negative character trait, like now, and is inexcusable, and other times it's the only thing keeping them in the Elite League - the aforementioned Galbraith's laziness was often dismissed that way ("if he worked hard he'd be playing at a much higher level"). Seems to come down to whether you want to excuse it or not. Maybe Lawrence wasn't good enough to be lazy, but again he managed to be the best of a bad bunch last year, at least numerically.
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Post by ted logan on Oct 15, 2015 13:44:58 GMT
Being the best of a very bad bunch and top scorer in last seasons dreadful team is pretty much the biggest positive anyone can give to Lawrence. Don't get me wrong, he did ok(ish) but he's not a patch on this years import forwards.
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Post by nate24 on Oct 15, 2015 14:29:20 GMT
Being the best of a very bad bunch and top scorer in last seasons dreadful team is pretty much the biggest positive anyone can give to Lawrence. Don't get me wrong, he did ok(ish) but he's not a patch on this years import forwards. Neither was Schmidt going on last seasons performances. New team mates, new player!
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Post by ted logan on Oct 15, 2015 14:33:23 GMT
Being the best of a very bad bunch and top scorer in last seasons dreadful team is pretty much the biggest positive anyone can give to Lawrence. Don't get me wrong, he did ok(ish) but he's not a patch on this years import forwards. Neither was Schmidt going on last seasons performances. New team mates, new player! Does seem to be playing the role of 'steady eddy' d-man very well this season. I thought he was fairly steady last season, you could never fault his effort and looked almost like Kronwall compared to Berube
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Post by Dan on Oct 15, 2015 14:50:30 GMT
The criticism of Lawrence on this forum is embarrassingly laughable. By certain posters in-particular whose hockey knowledge suggests they should know better. I'd almost say there's a grudge against him for some reason. Fact is he was our top points scorer on what is accepted was a very poor squad. Ok, Doucet would have outscored him eventually no doubt, I accept that. He'll do great at Steelers, he has a top quality wrist shot finish for our level. Get him on the right team where he isn't top line & isn't expected to be the workhorse he clearly isn't & he'll score points galore. Providing they keep him, obviously. I find your defence of him laughable. I'd have taken Jade Galbraith over Lawrence every day of the week. Just because he could do it doesn't mean he was any good. He was lazy. If he looked like he actually gave a poo poo I don't think you'd find ANYONE on this forum criticising him. Yes, he was lazy but he could do it and did do it. He was our top scorer. Lazy or not, he scored more points than any of the other try-harders.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2015 21:20:02 GMT
I find your defence of him laughable. I'd have taken Jade Galbraith over Lawrence every day of the week. Just because he could do it doesn't mean he was any good. He was lazy. If he looked like he actually gave a poo poo I don't think you'd find ANYONE on this forum criticising him. It's worse than laughable Evan Mosey. Waves.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2015 21:21:31 GMT
The criticism of Lawrence on this forum is embarrassingly laughable. By certain posters in-particular whose hockey knowledge suggests they should know better. I'd almost say there's a grudge against him for some reason. Fact is he was our top points scorer on what is accepted was a very poor squad. Ok, Doucet would have outscored him eventually no doubt, I accept that. He'll do great at Steelers, he has a top quality wrist shot finish for our level. Get him on the right team where he isn't top line & isn't expected to be the workhorse he clearly isn't & he'll score points galore. Providing they keep him, obviously. I find your defence of him laughable. I'd have taken Jade Galbraith over Lawrence every day of the week. Just because he could do it doesn't mean he was any good. He was lazy. If he looked like he actually gave a poo poo I don't think you'd find ANYONE on this forum criticising him. Well duh, obviously so would I. What's your opinion on Bruce Graham circa 2013/14 version.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2015 21:05:59 GMT
Chortle....
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Post by Yotes on Oct 17, 2015 21:50:28 GMT
The firing squad is being assembled for Gilly. Harsh, but fair, moderation
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Post by kivo1889 on Oct 17, 2015 22:37:39 GMT
Snigger...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2015 19:05:40 GMT
Bagged another tonight. PPG & GWG.
This thread could turn legendary.
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Post by iginla on Oct 18, 2015 19:34:30 GMT
It already has. A classic case of not doing what you could from Panthers !
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Post by ted logan on Oct 18, 2015 19:47:06 GMT
Sheffield:- Lose Duco on Sunday, sign Lawrence on Tuesday.
Panthers:- Lose Peckham pre-season. Wiedergut signed as a short term replacement. Gets injured and gassed. Not replaced. Then Waugh gets badly injured, out for 2-3 months. Not replaced. Down to 2 import D + Mosey.
Who's laughing?
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Post by Dan on Oct 19, 2015 13:33:22 GMT
I find your defence of him laughable. I'd have taken Jade Galbraith over Lawrence every day of the week. Just because he could do it doesn't mean he was any good. He was lazy. If he looked like he actually gave a poo poo I don't think you'd find ANYONE on this forum criticising him. It's worse than laughable Aye. He's rubbish that Lawrence. A non-lazy player would have SIX in three games instead.
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Post by BigLad on Oct 19, 2015 18:33:03 GMT
What's your opinion on Bruce Graham circa 2013/14 version. Look disinterested and out of shape. Perhaps not surprising since I don't think he played at all the previous season!
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Post by ginger on Oct 19, 2015 18:34:54 GMT
Was sceptical when we signed him, but I've definitely been proved wrong. Watched him closely last night and he had an excellent game. Was in the right positions, caused a few turnovers and, of course scoring 2.
Will be interesting to see if we give him a full time contract.
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Post by Yotes on Oct 19, 2015 18:37:06 GMT
Will be interesting to see if we give him a full time contract. And it will be interesting to see if he maintains form, should that happen. Wouldn't be the first sportsman to knock off a bit once his feet are under the table.
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Post by iginla on Oct 19, 2015 19:15:44 GMT
And if they do,it might put somebody else's nose out of joint when they're all fit again !
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Post by Gilly on Oct 20, 2015 8:31:10 GMT
you just knew it didnt you!
in all honesty I can't really remember him much from Saturday bar his winning goal, which suggests he's just better suited to Sheffield than he was here or in Coventry, as theyve obviously found a system which suits him.
there no doubt he has the skill, and one of the best wristshots ive seen, but regardless of his abilities, his work rate and demeanour just doesn't do it for me. He could score 100 points this season for Sheffield and i can honestly say i still wouldn't want him back, purely based on all the other aspects of his game, i lost count the amount of times last season he mis-hit a one timer or held onto it for too long and turned it over, the proceeded to saunter back without a care in the world.
the script is written to be a thorn in panthers side all season - but not for me thanks
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Post by jd on Oct 20, 2015 10:23:54 GMT
Maybe because he isn't the main man or expected to be (as he was with us last year) he will flourish Or Thommo will coach him better, who knows? Either way he has had a couple of good games for the steelers.
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Post by ginger on Oct 20, 2015 16:02:48 GMT
Yotes - agree, it could all go horribly wrong if we offer him a full contract!
I do think he probably benefits from not being the main go to guy on a team. He is probably playing against 2nd and 3rd D pairings more which may of course help, and I get the feeling he needs the right type of players with him. He was playing a lot on Sunday with Legue and Nelson. Nelson has a great work rate, and is very good at cycling the puck and Legue is good defensively and is creative - so he has 2 solid 2 way players with him who create chances - probably covers up any defensive deficiencies Lawrence has, and also has 2 line mates who can set him up. \i think this suits his game very well.
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