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Post by Nemesis on Sept 23, 2013 19:43:38 GMT
Thank you all. I will pass on your best wishes to Max.
Here's hoping we both see our injured players back to full health in a timely manner to continue what looked like decent starts for the both of them.
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Post by Nemesis on Sept 22, 2013 21:46:16 GMT
Sorry Baz. Every single one has gone mate. There was a couple around apparently but people have called in over the 2 weeks and grabbed them. Sorry mate. :-(
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Post by Nemesis on Sept 22, 2013 9:20:05 GMT
I'm gonna look round the arena tonight mate. They sold out but I might find one kicking around. I will let you know. :-)
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Post by Nemesis on Sept 16, 2013 17:49:18 GMT
Yeah, your right, those things all did influence my thinking and I had been told by everyone that given the circumstances, should I have to ice the opposition would not absolutely schlack me. But, to counterpoint that I would say that even given all the protection it wasn't any kind of physical aspect I feared, it was giving goals up and letting everyone down, especially given the gulf in ability. And I also figured that although an opposing team would take the you know what if the change was forced, if I was sent on voluntarily, surely that makes it fair game?
It looks like we have similar backgrounds, I captained one of my ships Rugby teams and also the 'B' Golf team.
Both things I am equally proud of :-)
To represent my country though as you have, WOW! How awesome is that!
I can see your points though and do understand where your coming from.
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Post by Nemesis on Sept 16, 2013 16:26:40 GMT
Oh I'm sorry if you took it the wrong way 'Nemesis', it was just banter, directed at an ex-Steelers player. No need to justify yourself, you are obviously happy and that is all that matters at the end of the day.As I say, just banter. Some people recognise and enjoy it.Ps, to add in respect to 'Rob#12' post, I'm a rec player and although I can't say I know for sure I reckon I would turn down the chance to play for the Panthers.
I know my limits and I'm not too proud to say that I'm nowhere near good enough to play at that level and know that, if I had to actually step on the ice (which if they are having to trawl the rec teams for outskaters is a distinct possibility ), its likely I'd get killed. I also know that I'm not good enough to do justice to the Nottingham Panthers jersey.
I was the same fella, in fact on the Saturday morning I called a mate of mine who has played ENL and had him on his way up because I knew that everything you say above applied in my case too. Love him or loath him it actually took a bit of an ear bashing from Mr Simms himself to talk me round. And although I'm not daft enough to think that in part it wasn't because it suited his agenda at the time, what he said was no less true, it was basically this; if you don't do this you will regret it for the rest of your life and you will be nothing more than a gutless nearly man. Harsh, but some truth in it. I spoke to lots of people, again because of all the reasons you quote but you sometimes have to be a bit selfish I guess, it isn't just about doing the Panthers justice, its about doing yourself justice too. If you did get on and played to the best you know you are capable of, and if everyone knew the situation, as they all did in my case, what more can they ask? When we went comfortably ahead in Dundee on the Sunday and Ben turned and said 'If they score (Moose was on a shut-out) your getting the last 5 minutes' I nearly wet myself! LOL. This was a time served NHL'er, he knew exactly what my level was, I had done 2 training sessions with them. For him to even contemplate giving me 5 minutes, not because of injury, but out of choice! Bloody hell! I know we were a few goals up, but 5 minutes is a bloody long time in ice hockey goal scoring terms! WOW. I still can't get my head round it :-) If you ever did get the chance mate, these are feelings you really, really want to have the experience of, I wish I could bottle them some how and share them. :-)
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Post by Nemesis on Sept 16, 2013 14:44:01 GMT
Oh I'm sorry if you took it the wrong way 'Nemesis', it was just banter, directed at an ex-Steelers player. No need to justify yourself, you are obviously happy and that is all that matters at the end of the day.
As I say, just banter. Some people recognise and enjoy it.Haha! That's more like it! Touché :-)
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Post by Nemesis on Sept 16, 2013 13:18:00 GMT
If he is going to post smarmy comments on a Panthers forum though then surely he has to expect some coming his way, given that he is (after all) an ex-player of that team up the road that keeps going bust? Nothing smarmy in my post at all, as everyone who knows me will attest. It's called banter, something that most people recognise and enjoy :-) Thanx Shaggy, I often wonder how many on here if the call ever came would turn it down. Not many I would wager. The medals are presented to many in the club and as a registered player you get one if you play a certain number of games; if you are on the game sheet, you 'played'. This is of course primarily for backups many of whom get no actual game time but who's commitment still needs recognising. I of course did not play the requisite games but there is another method, team managers or coaches can apply to the league and ask for medals to be awarded in exceptional circumstances, the league though have the final say. Given that without my stepping in at the eleventh hour (I am under no illusions what so ever as to the circumstances that lead them to ask me) both opening games would have been forfeit 0-5 for not having a backup; Ben thought it exceptional enough to apply and the league agreed. Club staff also get medals, just as in the US they get championship rings etc. Having worked my balls off that season I would qualify anyway; or would you like to suggest GM should return his? Good luck with that.... People can have a dig, it bothers me not. I got to live the dream for one weekend and no amount of spite or jealousy will erase the smile from my face every time I have cause to recall those few days :-) It was one of your very own who very generously framed my very own Steelers shirt and medal for free as well, which just topped the whole thing off. And I printed off all the threads from all the forums that were posted about it, including the one off here. I know Shaggy and he knows me, I am confident he took my post in the manner it was intended, as a bit of banter. For whats its worth, I think it is a legitimate question, but again, I would hope Shaggy understands why I am not in a position to answer it directly, but I'm sure as and when we bump into each other we will have a chat about it. Thanx :-)
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Post by Nemesis on Sept 16, 2013 11:06:41 GMT
I will see if I can get one for you. Can't promise though mate but there may be one floating round the office I can grab :-)
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Post by Nemesis on Sept 15, 2013 10:21:46 GMT
Unfortunately the code had to be suspended as it also contains such ridiculous statements as: 'To claim a Grand Slam, 100% of trophies must be won in the same season, not 75%' ;-) :-p Haha :-)
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Post by Nemesis on Aug 11, 2013 21:57:04 GMT
Fantastic work. I also liked the confidence shown by GM when claiming we weren't the biggest spending team for the last few years. That'll give them up north something to chew on! Sent from my HTC One using proboards Why?
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Post by Nemesis on Aug 2, 2013 16:40:00 GMT
I will say this quietly and hope that no one notices but; I quite like the maroon one..... #sssssshhhhhhh!
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Post by Nemesis on Jun 2, 2013 22:24:19 GMT
Why would you order a book about something that didn't happen? *runsawayandhides
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Post by Nemesis on Apr 28, 2013 16:04:51 GMT
Tony is not bank rolling the club this year. As stated at various fans and ST holders forums, the club is financially self sufficient and has been all this year. More money will be available next year as one-offs (Scoreboard etc) will not be required. These were all payed by the club, not Tony.
All this information is from Tony himself BTW before you ask who said what to whom.
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Post by Nemesis on Apr 14, 2013 11:04:25 GMT
Apparently this team will be the Harringay Racers, but will use 'London' in the PR etc to try to appeal to wider audience.
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Post by Nemesis on Apr 13, 2013 11:13:32 GMT
He also retired 2 years ago...... Unless he is coming in some other capacity?
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Post by Nemesis on Apr 12, 2013 21:32:29 GMT
Is this the same Jamie Rivers who retired 2 years ago and is now coaching?
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Post by Nemesis on Apr 11, 2013 23:17:27 GMT
That's got to be an idea for a thread. A complete team (money no object) with the same name haha! Are we allowed to use Douglas as a surname aswell? Sure, why not.
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Post by Nemesis on Apr 11, 2013 17:39:01 GMT
Sounds like a god awful, Evanescence knock-off band. I'll pass cheers. Oh and tucked in jerseys? Thats a bang to rights jersey foul right there, among others. You wouldn't catch Jarvis making such errors. Well, I did notice that but didn't want to say owt haha. Can't have 'fit' lasses in baggy tops hiding their figures though eh.... Often wondered why non of our teams have ever bothered producing fitted jerseys though like you can get NHL ones, they sell well judging by the fact whenever SWMBO tries to order one they are out if stock.
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Post by Nemesis on Apr 11, 2013 16:50:49 GMT
One of the biggest re-signings you will make this year IMO. Great news for you.
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Post by Nemesis on Apr 11, 2013 16:36:16 GMT
We had this lot at the Arena for one of our games, apparently the sound was naff on the night but the song is OK. The video for the track is all hockey with you lot having a brief cameo. :-) >>CLICKY<<
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Post by Nemesis on Apr 11, 2013 16:26:51 GMT
Also states that Doug Sheppard is going to the steelers Could be 'Big Dog's' Player / Assistant Coach? Is Christiansen building a Steelers' team all called Doug??? That's got to be an idea for a thread. A complete team (money no object) with the same name haha!
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Post by Nemesis on Apr 11, 2013 7:55:09 GMT
The conference argument is flawed, the definition according to wikiwotsit is every competition you are eligible for, you are not eligible for the other conference so it doesn't count. If you are going to refer to wikipedia, then why not quote it in full rather than the bit that fits your side of the discussion: "The defined competitions/trophies are usually considered to be the biggest, most desirable ones to win within that sport, often referred to as the 'Majors' of a given sport. Otherwise, in sports that have few competitions/trophies available a Grand Slam is defined as winning every competition/trophy you are eligible for in a given year; this is usually limited to domestic competitions/trophies in the field of internal/national league sports."So, we won the major/desirable trophies, and that by the above definition means Grand Slam. Whether we have or have not is irrelevant at the end of the day. We won all three major titles, were by far and away the best team this season, had unbelievable support and have now won seven of the last nine trophies. Oh, and we are only just starting..... On the last part of your post I am in complete agreement mate! But you can't advise me to do something and then not do it yourself ;-) "In sports, most have a defined set of competitions, trophies or achievements that constitute a Grand Slam. This is usually because there is such an amount of competitions or trophies available that it would be impossible for any one player or team to enter them all, let alone win them. The defined competitions/trophies are usually considered to be the biggest, most desirable ones to win within that sport, often referred to as the 'Majors' of a given sport. Otherwise, in sports that have few competitions/trophies available a Grand Slam is defined as winning every competition/trophy you are eligible for in a given year; this is usually limited to domestic competitions/trophies in the field of internal/national league sports. Below is a list of sports that have defined criteria for Grand Slams." Seems to support my argument rather than not TBH... I will go back and check the crossover thing again, but why would it not be recoded as 'winners' or 'Champions' ? And every time it is brought up with Belfast the reply is the same 'wasn't finished' If the knockout cup is listed as having a 'champion/winner' why is this only listed as 'first place'? And as I said, I do remember all the arguments about the Blaze, non as vigorous as the ones on here!
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Post by Nemesis on Apr 11, 2013 6:40:15 GMT
What do you all make of the team in the refurbed Wembley rumour? Got to be good if true hasn't it? And I for one have no issues with Mr Black being involved if that is true as well. I don't think the sport in this country is big enough to be choosey about things like that and despite the fact I will continue to use his dual ownership as a means to rib you lot, I don't really have any issues with it so long as the sport grows, and I think a London team is exactly what we need to gain much needed credibility.
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Post by Nemesis on Apr 11, 2013 6:20:55 GMT
But who is moving the goal posts? This is what I don't understand.
Ayr Scottish Eagles 97-98 grand slam 4 competitions, 4 trophies. Sheffield Steelers 2000-2001 grand slam 4 competitions, 4 trophies.
In 94-95 the Steelers won it by winning all 3 available competitions, there was no 4th competition at the time but they won every available trophy that year.
The conference argument is flawed, the definition according to wikiwotsit is every competition you are eligible for, you are not eligible for the other conference so it doesn't count. That would be like saying male tennis players can't win a grand slam because they can't win the women's events, but surely you can only claim a slam if you win every competition that EVERY tennis player competes in right? No, they are completely separate entities. I do think there is work to do in relation to the conference system and I even have sympathy for your losing out with it this year and on what basis.
Shaggy, Im pretty sure the cross over thing was supposed to be 16 games, but after allegations of some of the bigger BNL teams being tapped up to step up, the BNL pulled the plug early. Belfast record this on their honours as 'first place' NOT winners or champions because the competition wasn't concluded.
That said, I do remember many a discussion, not least on here about the blaze slam because they were the first team to win everything after we lost the Autumn/BH cup. There were non as fierce as some of the posters on here, myself included, that said on the basis of the previous slams all being 4, the blaze could only consider their achievement a triple. If anyone can look back far enough they will see my opinion was such at the time and has not changed.
The league are in a tight spot here, because of the reasons I posted in my last post and the fact they are desperate to legitimise and 'majorise' the conference competitions. If they legitimise your slam, they instantly snub the conference competition and it loses all credibility, If they don't, they anger you lot but, in their eyes, maintain the integrity of the conference competitions which they are desperate for us all to take seriously.
Being cheated? Blimey, in that case I would be happy for my lot to be 'cheated' every year!
:-)
Edited to add: Even on your own forum opinion is divided. You have 2 threads on the go, one selling 'Grand Slam Mugs' and the other selling 'Treble winners T-Shirts' doesn't that just show how difficult this discussion is LOL. But I will bet a pound to a piece of you know what every one of you would rather be having this discussion than not...
:-)
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Post by Nemesis on Apr 10, 2013 20:09:36 GMT
I don't think there will ever be universal agreement on this, not least between yourselves! As demonstrated by this thread.
I get the tennis thing, but that's down to there being so many competitions it would be impossible to enter them all; let alone win them. In most every other sport where competitions are few, it means winning them all.
The cross-over thing is another good point but the fact is the competition wasn't actually completed was it, so, dunno, does it count?
At least you now know how it feels to have something denied by the rest of the league.... LOL
At the end of the day I think this season for you has been a momentous achievement, and no-one is denying that that I can see. For me personally I would even put your league title 3rd, even though it is the thing you have sought above all else. It was impressive, especially this year playing the 'better' teams more. But winning 4 cups and 3 playoffs in a row! THAT is the stand out achievement for me, whatever it ends up being called.
It would be nice to get a definitive answer from the league, but they won't, because if they did it closes the discussions; so if they don't, we keep talking about it and remain 'engaged' with the sport through the summer.
Bring on next year, you have now set the standard both for the rest of us and yourselves.
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