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Post by jd on Mar 25, 2024 13:06:01 GMT
If Sheffields roster cost the same as panthers then it proves panthers recruitment policy is shocking and they don't do their due diligence etc. Using injuries is just a excuse , every year panthers have injury issues it ain't bad luck Steelers get bad injuries too but they bring in cover asap to cover these so they ain't playing short.. I've not known them to have one fit import d man on the roster Welcome back to the forum, Pidge.. Hahahaha I did wonder when he'd be back
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Post by jd on Mar 25, 2024 11:54:48 GMT
But Sheffield are defo spending more than us this season. Just look at the line up, anyone can see that. Not sure I agree. Steelers don't have anyone with the pedigree of AJ, Caruso or Despres (not a single NHL game on their roster), and don't really have anyone for me, who screams "ridiculously expensive player" or "too good for this league". They've got a roster of all kinds of players with CVs very like Panthers have had in the last few years. Last seasons in Denmark, Finland, Sweden, ECHL etc. Balmas was a great pick up late in the day, he's been a difference maker, as has the "past it" Vallerand. They've built a core of returnees (Neumann, Nevalainen, Ciampini, Allen, Greenfield) and improved the other spots. The difference is, they've all "fired" this year. Not a single dud on their roster. Scoring from all areas, a great D and the best netminder in the league. And they've been largely injury free. That makes a huge difference too. They took us apart on the 27th December, they were superb, the best visiting EIHL performance I've ever seen. You can be bitter all you like, they've been the best team all year. No bitterness from me at all, just jealous they have an owner who will make sure they're always competing. Vallerand is a quality player, always scores, 239 points in 200 games in the EIHL. Has scored 34, 26, 26 and 24 goals so far in full seasons here. Watling was such a good pickup, Balmas i would guess has exceeded expectations, Saucerman, Juusola, Ciampini has been quality and then you add Dowd. Not forgetting to mention Greenfield, 92.9 SV% and 1.91 GAA. Theyve won 85% of league games. I rate Depres, sadly McGuty, Ryczek and Caruso havent been great imo. Rok has been so inconsistent its unreal, losing Robinson when we did was awful timing. Lemay has scored 9 goals this calendar year. Welsh has been out but has still only scored once. They've given Fox time and the resources. I cant see JP coming back, or Omar (unless NB is happy with the cash he's made). So we could be looking at another rebuild but with the one person staying who I'd love to leave. AJ's death was horrific and has had a massive influence on this team, no doubt - how Otto has kept playing is beyond me. But we've been stale for years and until Neil goes I cant see that changing.
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Post by jd on Mar 24, 2024 19:46:44 GMT
If they’re paying £12,500 a week for that roster then fair play. I just don’t see it. Dowd must be pushing £1000 a week Sheffields number one consideration is to pretty near fill their arena every game with ‘paying’ fans and spend what they have to to do that. If your owner is a genuine fan it’s an excellent business model One day I hope we get that. Sad that ours isn’t like that
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Post by jd on Mar 24, 2024 18:47:15 GMT
Amazing effort that. If we are now 4 d men and Neilson down for the rest fi the season I just don’t see us getting in the top 8
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Post by jd on Mar 24, 2024 18:37:07 GMT
Just like you I have no idea what he earns, if the wage cap is £12,500 or even exists. But Sheffield are defo spending more than us this season. Just look at the line up, anyone can see that. You would think so but from stats and CV’s it doesn’t really look like it,they’re just very solid top to bottom. I’ve only seen one player get much but not a lot of criticism from their fans and that is Saucerman. If they’re paying £12,500 a week for that roster then fair play. I just don’t see it. Dowd must be pushing £1000 a week
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Post by jd on Mar 24, 2024 18:19:14 GMT
The way iggy slates him you’d think he’s paying us to pay each week Are you saying he’s on more than that or less than that ? I don’t know what he’s on,but based on Kelman’s claim of a couple of years ago that the wage cap was £12,500 a week that’s an average over 20 players of only £625 a week. Now clearly some will be on considerably more than that so it figures that some will be on considerably less. Well I can’t see Tetlow being anywhere other than in the bottom few earners. Just like you I have no idea what he earns, if the wage cap is £12,500 or even exists. But Sheffield are defo spending more than us this season. Just look at the line up, anyone can see that.
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Post by jd on Mar 24, 2024 18:12:32 GMT
Where are the interviews? Not being awkward, would love to hear them say that. Thanks in advance for the link It’s been quoted on here too before by more than me. You’d have to delve through interviews but it definitely got said. I’ll try and find it
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Post by jd on Mar 24, 2024 18:11:40 GMT
What a game
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Post by jd on Mar 24, 2024 17:48:20 GMT
I’d agree they won’t be paying him a lot. But even if Tetlow was only on say £300 a week,if you ditched him you can then get a £1000 a week import instead of a £700 a week import with the same budget. That’s likely the sort of difference between signing a Mcgurty or a Neill. You can't possibly think Tetlow is on £300 a week... The way iggy slates him you’d think he’s paying us to pay each week
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Post by jd on Mar 24, 2024 17:47:58 GMT
We had 2 on d not loads If you think we’re spending the same as Sheffield then I can’t help you. Where did Omar say that? Omar said that and Doucet said it both in interviews a while back. I don’t believe them for a second,but as I’ve already said,that’s why O’Connor,Richardson,Dowd,Hook and Perlini etc are elsewhere,because Panthers have either naffed them off or won’t pay the good money for them. Where are the interviews? Not being awkward, would love to hear them say that. Thanks in advance for the link
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Post by jd on Mar 24, 2024 17:38:33 GMT
Outstanding effort so far. 4 d men short is brutal
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Post by jd on Mar 24, 2024 17:38:09 GMT
And in our d in 12/13 we had Weaver and Lee. Not sure I’ve ever known a team to win the league with no Brits on d. Doesn’t make sense Of course Sheffield are better, they’ve spent way more than us. In 12/13 there were less imports on a roster so you had to have lots of Brits. And you know for certain that Sheffield spent more this year do you ? But Omar says we spend the same,can’t both be true ! We had 2 on d not loads If you think we’re spending the same as Sheffield then I can’t help you. Where did Omar say that?
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Post by jd on Mar 24, 2024 17:25:58 GMT
You forgot the "In my opinion..." part. Plenty disagree. That list of "better Brits", then. Who's on it? Pretty much any Brit who’s at Sheffield,Cardiff,Belfast or Guildford is the short answer to that. Like I said,I’d rather go a Brit short and chuck Tetlow’s wage in the import pot if they can’t persuade another decent Brit to sign. Panthers trouble there though seems to stem from peeing players off. If Tetlow is as poor as you make out we can’t be paying him much so we’d end up with a “cheap” import.
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Post by jd on Mar 24, 2024 17:24:45 GMT
So you wouldn’t want any Brit d men other than Hazlendine. No Jones, O’Connor, Richardson? I would always build a team around a really good D and goalie first and foremost and that doesn’t have to include any Brits other than a back up goalie. I’d have O’Connor or Richardson but I don’t think you’d get either. All the league winners,including Panthers in 12/13 had a good solid D. Look at Steelers this year,night and day better D than Panthers. Even losing Petgrave didn’t harm them because they went out and replaced him with Cormier who the Steelers fans rave about. And in our d in 12/13 we had Weaver and Lee. Not sure I’ve ever known a team to win the league with no Brits on d. Doesn’t make sense Of course Sheffield are better, they’ve spent way more than us.
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Post by jd on Mar 24, 2024 15:49:05 GMT
The problem now though is league wide the strength of depth in Brits is really low. How many are actually any good? It’s not like 10-15 years ago when there was Weaver, Lee, Clarkey, Lacho, Myers, Meyers, Garside, Peacock, Dowd, Shields, Thomas, J Phillips, Tait etc These days there’s only really Dowd and Hook left who are what you’d call really good Brits so it gives players like Tetlow a space Doesn’t have to be a Dman,I’d always stack the D with imports plus Hazeldine. Then it comes down to money,If you want the better ones it’ll cost you and that’s where the problem seems to lie. So you wouldn’t want any Brit d men other than Hazlendine. No Jones, O’Connor, Richardson?
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Post by jd on Mar 24, 2024 15:12:59 GMT
Yes but that particular doesn’t help the agenda so we’ll ignore that 😉 In all seriousness though I don’t see the point in persevering with Tetlow. I don’t think he’ll make any significant improvements and if we keep Hazeldine then I think we’d be much stronger with 5 import D The only agenda there mate is as you agree with. Tetlow is a liability and will never make anything more than a second rate Brit. Other coaches will know that and target him. For an arena team there’s got to be better use of limited Brit spots on a roster than him. Such as?
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Post by jd on Mar 24, 2024 15:11:04 GMT
Just the minus 2 for the game then. 3 d men short, what do you expect? Rhetorical question
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Post by jd on Mar 23, 2024 22:11:02 GMT
Not an ounce of respect in their bones How come?
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Post by jd on Mar 23, 2024 20:07:27 GMT
1-1 Cormier. Rok would want that back. Sadly he’s had too many of them
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Post by jd on Mar 23, 2024 15:12:08 GMT
Can’t see 32 or 61 back this season. Tough stretch ahead and if we get any thing from this game and no injuries I’ll be happy
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Post by jd on Mar 21, 2024 13:39:20 GMT
Surprised they didn't win last night, Saturday could be hard
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Post by jd on Mar 18, 2024 12:24:27 GMT
Just revisiting this and I think I'm now firmly in the "no" camp sadly. Looking at fixtures, I think there is too much to do now. By my maths we'll need 12 points from 14, with 2 really tough games this weekend or else we rely on a really big drop off from Fife and Dundee. However they play each other back to back last weekend so best case scenario is they split 2 points each. Unfortunately the crazy schedule took it out of us too much in the end. ps. As a side note, if it does go to the wire, it's a weird scenario where Flyers play on the Monday when both us and Dundee are finished. Sadly I agree. Way too inconsistent recently - we can get good results (was at the Belfast game and they were immense) but also had some stinking results. I don’t see us qualifying and after losing AJ the fact that we are still playing is massive. An awful season/12months, losing Hammond and Johnson as well as other deaths around the league. Never wanted a season to end so badly so they can grieve. What a first season for JP and KM. credit to them for staying, families abroad can’t have been easy for them
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Post by jd on Mar 17, 2024 22:27:10 GMT
Maybe at the start of next season they’ll do it?
More time for the inquest and for the family to come over like you say DMS
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Post by jd on Mar 17, 2024 21:17:46 GMT
Sounds like you two have a connection to me! No we just know and respect each other and have been around the game for a few years.. which is alot more respect than I have for you Yeah, I don’t generally message people and tell them to fudge off - says more about you Ian. And like I said in my reply to your unprovoked message to me, you need help and I hope you get some. I can screen shot our conversation and post it on here if you’ve forgotten?
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Post by jd on Mar 17, 2024 21:13:29 GMT
But he might have “connections” in there you know. 🤣 🙈 Oh yes 🤣🤣 Sounds like you two have a connection to me!
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