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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2022 10:03:15 GMT
I haven't missed a EIHL playoff weekend yet. It's the highlight of the season, *even* when your own team get stuffed or dumped out... ... But this is one too many dumping on the fans by the EIHL, so I'm sorry but this year it's the POFW that can get stuffed! And I *never* thought I'd be saying that. #EIHLImOut It really isn't all that anymore . Until the league goes towards a best off playoff series format they'll never be taken seriously. Fact! But we know that will never happen don't we |
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Post by bobness on Feb 27, 2022 11:59:25 GMT
Fact! 😂
Genuine question, does every euro league do some kind of “best of” playoff competition? Is it only the EIHL that do a quick knockout?
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Post by kjb962 on Feb 27, 2022 13:15:49 GMT
Hi all,
Been a long time reader of this forum and been compelled to post here on many occasions after this poo-poo-show of a season, without ever getting around to it!
To echo what many have said already... after never missing a single play-off weekend since it came to Nottingham, and family had been going to Wembley and then Manchester since the 1980s - we are drawing the line this year. I was already grumpy at the moving back of dates considering I live over 100 miles away now and have to fit around work. Would have moved heaven and earth normally to make it possible to go, but after seeing the daylight robbery they're planning on committing I really cannot be arsed! Hope it backfires spectacularly.
Really starting to lose my love for this sport in recent times.
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Post by Lucy on Feb 27, 2022 14:21:48 GMT
I haven't missed a EIHL playoff weekend yet. It's the highlight of the season, *even* when your own team get stuffed or dumped out... ... But this is one too many dumping on the fans by the EIHL, so I'm sorry but this year it's the POFW that can get stuffed! And I *never* thought I'd be saying that. #EIHLImOut Not missed one in this arena but I totally agree with you. - I won’t be going. Everything about the ticketing is wrong, a huge increase in price, no child prices, not being able to go on just one day (what happens if you work on one of the days) not being able to choose seats (many might not like to climb all those steps to an upper row). It was bad enough changing the date when hundreds of fans had flights and hotels booked, but this really is a poor move by the EIHL. Let’s just hope they listen to the hundreds of negative comments from loyal fans! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2022 15:22:46 GMT
Fact! 😂 Genuine question, does every euro league do some kind of “best of” playoff competition? Is it only the EIHL that do a quick knockout? Btw genuine question is the eihl taken seriously? Yes.. even the French do.. I can't think of one legit league in Europe who do a weekend jolly like the Brits do! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2022 15:24:24 GMT
I haven't missed a EIHL playoff weekend yet. It's the highlight of the season, *even* when your own team get stuffed or dumped out... ... But this is one too many dumping on the fans by the EIHL, so I'm sorry but this year it's the POFW that can get stuffed! And I *never* thought I'd be saying that. #EIHLImOut Not missed one in this arena but I totally agree with you. - I won’t be going. Everything about the ticketing is wrong, a huge increase in price, no child prices, not being able to go on just one day (what happens if you work on one of the days) not being able to choose seats (many might not like to climb all those steps to an upper row). It was bad enough changing the date when hundreds of fans had flights and hotels booked, but this really is a poor move by the EIHL. Let’s just hope they listen to the hundreds of negative comments from loyal fans! Well they have hours to do a U-turn then before once Monday morning comes round and fans have brought tickets under the current conditions they can't move the goalposts else they'll be outrage ! |
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Feb 27, 2022 16:21:43 GMT
Not missed one in this arena but I totally agree with you. - I won’t be going. Everything about the ticketing is wrong, a huge increase in price, no child prices, not being able to go on just one day (what happens if you work on one of the days) not being able to choose seats (many might not like to climb all those steps to an upper row). It was bad enough changing the date when hundreds of fans had flights and hotels booked, but this really is a poor move by the EIHL. Let’s just hope they listen to the hundreds of negative comments from loyal fans! Well they have hours to do a U-turn then before once Monday morning comes round and fans have brought tickets under the current conditions they can't move the goalposts else they'll be outrage ! They will blame the M&S carrier bag. |
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Post by iginla on Feb 27, 2022 17:49:43 GMT
I haven't missed a EIHL playoff weekend yet. It's the highlight of the season, *even* when your own team get stuffed or dumped out... ... But this is one too many dumping on the fans by the EIHL, so I'm sorry but this year it's the POFW that can get stuffed! And I *never* thought I'd be saying that. #EIHLImOut Not missed one in this arena but I totally agree with you. - I won’t be going. Everything about the ticketing is wrong, a huge increase in price, no child prices, not being able to go on just one day (what happens if you work on one of the days) not being able to choose seats (many might not like to climb all those steps to an upper row). It was bad enough changing the date when hundreds of fans had flights and hotels booked, but this really is a poor move by the EIHL. Let’s just hope they listen to the hundreds of negative comments from loyal fans! This post 👀,it’s absolutely spot on. |
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Post by iginla on Feb 27, 2022 17:52:22 GMT
Not missed one in this arena but I totally agree with you. - I won’t be going. Everything about the ticketing is wrong, a huge increase in price, no child prices, not being able to go on just one day (what happens if you work on one of the days) not being able to choose seats (many might not like to climb all those steps to an upper row). It was bad enough changing the date when hundreds of fans had flights and hotels booked, but this really is a poor move by the EIHL. Let’s just hope they listen to the hundreds of negative comments from loyal fans! Well they have hours to do a U-turn then before once Monday morning comes round and fans have brought tickets under the current conditions they can't move the goalposts else they'll be outrage ! Very true. Problem is,I don’t think the EIHL give a monkeys about fan outrage. |
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Post by Discoray on Feb 27, 2022 20:02:48 GMT
Genuine question, does every euro league do some kind of “best of” playoff competition? Is it only the EIHL that do a quick knockout? EIHL is the only league in Europe (probably the world) that both has it's regular season as the main championship, and also no best of play-off series. The real fun bit is trying to explain that to players. Unless they're familiar with football to use as a reference point, you need to explain it to them several times, while they look at you like you're someone whose landed from another planet. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2022 20:07:05 GMT
Genuine question, does every euro league do some kind of “best of” playoff competition? Is it only the EIHL that do a quick knockout? EIHL is the only league in Europe (probably the world) that both has it's regular season as the main championship, and also no best of play-off series. The real fun bit is trying to explain that to players. Unless they're familiar with football to use as a reference point, you need to explain it to them several times, while they look at you like you're someone whose landed from another planet. Exactly and who can blame them |
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Post by John Casey on Feb 28, 2022 11:17:24 GMT
I haven't missed a EIHL playoff weekend yet. It's the highlight of the season, *even* when your own team get stuffed or dumped out... ... But this is one too many dumping on the fans by the EIHL, so I'm sorry but this year it's the POFW that can get stuffed! And I *never* thought I'd be saying that. #EIHLImOut It really isn't all that anymore . Until the league goes towards a best off playoff series format they'll never be taken seriously. Fact! But we know that will never happen don't we Untill the Arena teams are able to book dates and not get bumped for other events, it'll never happen. Say it's best of 3 or 5, would The Giants and/or Steelers book a date for games that may not be needed. Also fans would have to book time of work or arrange things for games that may not happen. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2022 11:28:40 GMT
But that's just standard and part and parcel of the format. 2/3 days between games is quite normal . It works for every league in Europe ...
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Post by John Casey on Feb 28, 2022 11:47:20 GMT
But that's just standard and part and parcel of the format. 2/3 days between games is quite normal . It works for every league in Europe ... Doesn't cover the fact that lets say Belfast book a date for game 2 but a tour gets announced and takes that date. Would that mean game 3 (which would be a away game) get delayed as well or does that become Game 2? Remember a few seasons back we had to play the Q/F 2nd Leg on a Easter Monday because Disney had their building for a week. Does teams in Europe have the same issue as that? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2022 12:04:47 GMT
Rinks/arenas honour dates set for a hockey match and don't change them once they've been set. It's a farce arenas here find the need to change dates they just treat fans with more contempt than on the continent
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Post by bobness on Feb 28, 2022 12:05:26 GMT
I think the major issue may indeed be arena availability.
The NIC, for example, is very busy this May, which would be prime playoff game days. If you were playing best of 5, you'd be looking at potentially 2 weeks per series? (Best of 7 could/would be longer)
So 6 weeks minimum after the end of the league season?
Given the arena's financial state, I'd expect to get busier rather than the opposite, in future.
I wonder whether the league could run the whole playoffs as "League events" if they wanted to? Would that provide the money the league expects from the play off weekend, and give all play off teams the money to break even for the duration? Would you then need to make the regular season shorter?
I wonder if the league have ever thought of changing it? And if they have, why would it not be viable?
Sadly, we have little clue as to the economics of all the teams except guesswork.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2022 12:13:43 GMT
The lack of ice time argument doesn't cut it for me.. the rinks manage to find ice time the previous 7 months.. what's another 2-3 weeks depending on that teams progress in the playoffs. Lots of leagues have best of 5 .. it doesn't need to be potentially 7 games . You can ditch the Chllenge cup for a start how many games (and icetime) does that clog up?
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Post by Caesar on Feb 28, 2022 13:06:07 GMT
Well, at 1pm on the first day of sale, I could've got 12 seats together in the Panthers block. Says it all really doesn't it? When has that ever been the case before?
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Post by bobness on Feb 28, 2022 13:18:17 GMT
The lack of ice time argument doesn't cut it for me.. the rinks manage to find ice time the previous 7 months.. what's another 2-3 weeks depending on that teams progress in the playoffs. Lots of leagues have best of 5 .. it doesn't need to be potentially 7 games . You can ditch the Chllenge cup for a start how many games (and icetime) does that clog up? The arenas find the icetime for 7 months because they have at least a month's, and up to 7 month's, visibility. Scheduling potentially 9 or more games in a short time with little or no notice I can easily see as problematical in some cases. As I've said, look at the NIC's calendar in May. Maybe each arena could "pencil in" the necessary play-off games at the start of the season, but then the arena has the opposite problem if, let's say, Panthers don't make the play-offs. 9 dates with no income at very short notice. Not as easy to square that circle as you may think. But I'm sure someone will put me right. |
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Feb 28, 2022 16:52:13 GMT
Not sure why a playoff series would have to be at the NIC. Surely it would be a home and away series?
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Post by Bagheera on Feb 28, 2022 17:24:35 GMT
Well, at 1pm on the first day of sale, I could've got 12 seats together in the Panthers block. Says it all really doesn't it? When has that ever been the case before? Could get 8 together now, on row L in a Panthers block too 🤣 |
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Feb 28, 2022 17:33:43 GMT
Well, at 1pm on the first day of sale, I could've got 12 seats together in the Panthers block. Says it all really doesn't it? When has that ever been the case before? Could get 8 together now, on row L in a Panthers block too 🤣 The days of panthers allocation selling out in one day are as long gone as people queuing through the night, cash sales and the arena bringing the tea trolley round. There's still time though, and if they qualify for the weekend we should still see a healthy turn out. |
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Post by PantherG on Feb 28, 2022 19:49:31 GMT
Only a few of my friends are going, the vast majority of my hockey fans I know are not going. I think they’ll be lucky to get 4,000 in at this point. Massive own goal to hike the prices that high then remove concessions.. this will backfire big time.
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Post by Jord v4 on Feb 28, 2022 20:18:47 GMT
Only a few of my friends are going, the vast majority of my hockey fans I know are not going. I think they’ll be lucky to get 4,000 in at this point. Massive own goal to hike the prices that high then remove concessions.. this will backfire big time. One can only hope. Some sort of failure is required to make the powers that be take any kind of notice. I also find it interesting how little influence Cardiff's excellent owners appear to have at the final table.... Or maybe they aren't quite as great as advertised. |
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Post by EMB on Feb 28, 2022 22:33:29 GMT
I hear from someone at the arena that only 900 tickets purchased today across all teams. Not sure how true.
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