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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2021 15:03:53 GMT
Another come from behind win.. seems like they are starting to turn up just in time for the semis.. who have have thought it 😉
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Apr 25, 2021 15:06:36 GMT
Good win in the end
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Post by blackandgold73 on Apr 25, 2021 17:40:35 GMT
A regulation win would have been nice to keep things in our own hands but I'll take it. And nice to be grinding them out now as it gets down to the line
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Post by wannabe2 on Apr 25, 2021 18:49:35 GMT
Another come from behind win.. seems like they are starting to turn up just in time for the semis.. who have have thought it 😉 Not me me.
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Post by DMS on Apr 25, 2021 18:58:44 GMT
A regulation win would have been nice to keep things in our own hands but I'll take it. And nice to be grinding them out now as it gets down to the line Keeping things in our own hands?... it is anyway. All teams qualify for ‘playoffs’ so it’s a case of winning the games no matter who it is that panthers have to play
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Post by Yotes on Apr 25, 2021 19:59:39 GMT
We would've been second seed though, now we're either 3 or 4, depending what happens in the current game.
How much that'll matter, we'll find out. Looking like 3rd at the moment.
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Post by kievthegreat on Apr 25, 2021 20:08:29 GMT
Steelers empty netter means we're 3rd. Semis coming up vs Blaze.
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Post by Bagheera on Apr 25, 2021 20:10:21 GMT
3rd it is then. Semi final v Coventry who we have struggled against most.
Form has picked up though so I think we could make the final. I think it's going to be very tight and either team could take it.
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Post by kievthegreat on Apr 25, 2021 20:12:12 GMT
Presumably we're playing in "SF2" so late game on Tuesday and then on Thursday.
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Post by kievthegreat on Apr 25, 2021 20:56:52 GMT
Presumably we're playing in "SF2" so late game on Tuesday and then on Thursday. Nope we're the early game and then Wednesday. Means the winner gets an extra rest day before the final.
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Post by Yotes on Apr 25, 2021 21:03:03 GMT
Steelers picked that apparently, like you I would've thought you'd want the extra rest day before the weekend.
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Post by bobness on Apr 25, 2021 21:19:06 GMT
Panthers possibly the form team going into the semis? 11 points in the last 7 games. But only 3 points out of 8 vs Blaze so far. Intriguing.
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Post by blackandgold73 on Apr 26, 2021 2:17:29 GMT
A regulation win would have been nice to keep things in our own hands but I'll take it. And nice to be grinding them out now as it gets down to the line Keeping things in our own hands?... it is anyway. All teams qualify for ‘playoffs’ so it’s a case of winning the games no matter who it is that panthers have to play The seeding was out of our hands after we didn't win in regulation, so as Yotes points out, we suddenly became dependent on the results of the final game before we knew who we'd be playing. A regulation win would have confirmed us as second seeding. Coventry's point confirmed they wouldn't play Sheffield in the semi. In the end they finished second so got to pick which of the two games was designated as their home game, with the home team allowed the last change A full breakdown of variations going into our last game: www.eliteleague.co.uk/article/1201-blaze-panthers-and-storm-battle-for-seeding
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Post by DMS on Apr 26, 2021 5:53:08 GMT
Keeping things in our own hands?... it is anyway. All teams qualify for ‘playoffs’ so it’s a case of winning the games no matter who it is that panthers have to play The seeding was out of our hands after we didn't win in regulation, so as Yotes points out, we suddenly became dependent on the results of the final game before we knew who we'd be playing. A regulation win would have confirmed us as second seeding. Coventry's point confirmed they wouldn't play Sheffield in the semi. In the end they finished second so got to pick which of the two games was designated as their home game, with the home team allowed the last change A full breakdown of variations going into our last game: www.eliteleague.co.uk/article/1201-blaze-panthers-and-storm-battle-for-seeding I fully understood the permutations and the situation but it’s a bit extreme IMO to say keep it In our own hands as if it’s a full proper season. 4 teams all making the playoff scenario doesn’t really make much difference who you play, for me.
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Post by bobness on Apr 26, 2021 8:01:47 GMT
The seeding was out of our hands after we didn't win in regulation, so as Yotes points out, we suddenly became dependent on the results of the final game before we knew who we'd be playing. A regulation win would have confirmed us as second seeding. Coventry's point confirmed they wouldn't play Sheffield in the semi. In the end they finished second so got to pick which of the two games was designated as their home game, with the home team allowed the last change A full breakdown of variations going into our last game: www.eliteleague.co.uk/article/1201-blaze-panthers-and-storm-battle-for-seeding I fully understood the permutations and the situation but it’s a bit extreme IMO to say keep it In our own hands as if it’s a full proper season. 4 teams all making the playoff scenario doesn’t really make much difference who you play, for me. Indeed, this is where the competition gets a little tenuous. That said, a "best of" final? That's new...
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Post by spik on Apr 26, 2021 8:27:35 GMT
I fully understood the permutations and the situation but it’s a bit extreme IMO to say keep it In our own hands as if it’s a full proper season. 4 teams all making the playoff scenario doesn’t really make much difference who you play, for me. Indeed, this is where the competition gets a little tenuous. That said, a "best of" final? That's new... But does not having 'home' advantage help.? Yet Sheffield apparently chose their slot, was this in the rules aforehand? I thought that the league winners would get the first slot on the semi first day and the last slot the final day, or even first both times. Does the league winner also get the first and last FINAL games as the 'home' team?
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Post by Yotes on Apr 26, 2021 8:55:13 GMT
If they qualify I would expect so. Highest remaining seed will be the "home" team for the final I'd assume.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2021 11:08:13 GMT
Yup whoever is the highest seed in final will get 2nd line change etc as per playoff rules
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Apr 26, 2021 11:54:48 GMT
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Post by bobness on Apr 26, 2021 12:44:58 GMT
"Sport England certainly didn't realise we were the largest indoor sport in the country until we started banging the drum. "It was only when Clive gave us that push through the door that they realised we do have some standing in sporting communities and we should be taken seriously, over and above a few other sports." I'm not sure who this reflects worse on, Sport England or the EIHL? It's not what you know, it's who you know?
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Post by kievthegreat on Apr 26, 2021 13:56:16 GMT
"Sport England certainly didn't realise we were the largest indoor sport in the country until we started banging the drum. "It was only when Clive gave us that push through the door that they realised we do have some standing in sporting communities and we should be taken seriously, over and above a few other sports." I'm not sure who this reflects worse on, Sport England or the EIHL? It's not what you know, it's who you know? While I'm glad we got some hockey and it's potentially a very big deal for the club finances across the 4 teams, the quotes seem really petty. Like if Sport England didn't realise how big Ice Hockey is, isn't that a damning indictment of the EIHL/IHUK/EIHA more than it is on Sport England? How is it possible to be the biggest indoor sport whilst simultaneously be invisible? Also the "above a few other sports" just feels unnecessary.
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Post by blackandgold73 on Apr 26, 2021 14:02:28 GMT
The seeding was out of our hands after we didn't win in regulation, so as Yotes points out, we suddenly became dependent on the results of the final game before we knew who we'd be playing. A regulation win would have confirmed us as second seeding. Coventry's point confirmed they wouldn't play Sheffield in the semi. In the end they finished second so got to pick which of the two games was designated as their home game, with the home team allowed the last change A full breakdown of variations going into our last game: www.eliteleague.co.uk/article/1201-blaze-panthers-and-storm-battle-for-seeding I fully understood the permutations and the situation but it’s a bit extreme IMO to say keep it In our own hands as if it’s a full proper season. 4 teams all making the playoff scenario doesn’t really make much difference who you play, for me. Personally, for me at least, the order in which you might face them does. Personally if we're not going to be the top seed I'd always rather lockdown 2nd seeding rather than risk drifting to 4th due to permutations out of our control. I'd rather avoid the top seed *for sure* until the last moment, especially with rejigged lines. A) it opens the possibility for events in their semi final that either cause an upset so you avoid a team you've struggled against or that effects their team balance. B) and, again this is personal opinion I'd rather have a team know that each game will get harder at this stage and be challenged to progressively raise their game rather than risk one or two players (which we might have this year?) "relax" too much after winning against a supposedly tougher opponent in the semi. As others have pointed out you should never underestimate the power of momentum and for me (personally) I'd rather build the momentum to facing the top seed potentially later, especially with recently changed lines. Plus the last change and home game choice shouldn't be sniffed at. But, as always, JMHO and appreciate others may disagree.
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Post by blackandgold73 on Apr 26, 2021 14:08:30 GMT
"Sport England certainly didn't realise we were the largest indoor sport in the country until we started banging the drum. "It was only when Clive gave us that push through the door that they realised we do have some standing in sporting communities and we should be taken seriously, over and above a few other sports." I'm not sure who this reflects worse on, Sport England or the EIHL? It's not what you know, it's who you know? While I'm glad we got some hockey and it's potentially a very big deal for the club finances across the 4 teams, the quotes seem really petty. Like if Sport England didn't realise how big Ice Hockey is, isn't that a damning indictment of the EIHL/IHUK/EIHA more than it is on Sport England? How is it possible to be the biggest indoor sport whilst simultaneously be invisible? Also the "above a few other sports" just feels unnecessary. Yeah, if, in their words, Sport England didn't even know who they were then there was work to be done that shouldn't necessarily have needed doing?
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Apr 26, 2021 15:04:26 GMT
While I'm glad we got some hockey and it's potentially a very big deal for the club finances across the 4 teams, the quotes seem really petty. Like if Sport England didn't realise how big Ice Hockey is, isn't that a damning indictment of the EIHL/IHUK/EIHA more than it is on Sport England? How is it possible to be the biggest indoor sport whilst simultaneously be invisible? Also the "above a few other sports" just feels unnecessary. Yeah, if, in their words, Sport England didn't even know who they were then there was work to be done that shouldn't necessarily have needed doing? Think that's part of the embellishment, Tony Smith says lets make what Sheffield have done sound even more of an achievement by making out that Sport England didn't know about British Ice Hockey, without realising that this reflects badly on senior people within British Ice Hockey, the chairman of EIHL being....
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Post by Discoray on Apr 26, 2021 15:23:40 GMT
I'm not sure who this reflects worse on, Sport England or the EIHL? Like if Sport England didn't realise how big Ice Hockey is, isn't that a damning indictment of the EIHL/IHUK/EIHA more than it is on Sport England? Pretty much my takeaway from it as well, if it's true Sports England really did no nothing on the sport, then that's down to those who are in charge of the sport and how far away we are from any sort of good governance.
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