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Post by wgray on Oct 20, 2019 17:58:12 GMT
Not wrong though is he. As boring as it may be to read it from the same names so often there are more and more people starting to understand why. We were better at times tonight than I have seen from us before, but quality came through in the end and they outclassed us. The reason the same people post these things is time and time again Panthers dont learn and make the same mistakes time and time again. When Panthers went 1-0 up the conceded after 11 secs!! Then the collapse in the 3rd.. it's all too familiar story Onto the passengers Bulmer 0+0 and 0 pims! Malnquist 0+3 Quist 2 goals Golovkovs 2 goals Just WTF! Golovkovs - Malmquist - Hansen was our best line tonight, realistically they’d be a brilliant 3rd line. Quist isn’t helped being on a line with Bulmer, he’s the one that’s seriously letting us down IMO. From Doucet’s programme notes tonight it sounds like we’re waiting for the right player to become available, having split this weekend he might have got himself some more time.
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Post by grumpy on Oct 20, 2019 18:11:00 GMT
I was at the game in Cardiff and we played a really good road game, fought hard, defended well, took our chances (except for one 2 on 0 breakaway which Hansen should have converted) and deserved the points. Trouble is, we just don`t have the quality to really compete with teams like Cardiff and that has been the case for a long time now. You only have to look at the points output of our signings and compare them with the likes of Riley, Martin, Bentivoglio, Linglet, Haddad, or Vallerand, Connolly, Davies, Dowd, for Steelers and there is a massive gulf. Bulmer had a point a game for Flyers last season but was anonymous again last night. Our game management is all too often poor, whether through lack of experience or nous, apart from last night we seem to panic and concede goals in clutches - like this afternoon. I`m afraid this is going to be another tough season and even my neighbour in block 15, a ST holder for 38 years, is beginning to consider packing it in. A sad state of affairs. One thing that is always noticeable in Cardiff is the way in which there is a real bond between management, players, and fans - another area where we are falling short.I wish I could be more positive but, at the moment, it`s difficult.
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Post by DMS on Oct 20, 2019 18:16:30 GMT
For 30 minutes we played with a better intensity and were rewarded for this... then we switched off.
Over 2 passages of play today we conceded 4 goals in 69 seconds, that is frankly abysmal.
DeSantis had a golden chance to shoot in the 3rd however with half a rink of space decided to go for a fancy deke and messed it up. If you put the puck on the net there’s a chance of scoring or at least getting a rebound (just look at devils 2nd and 3rd goals they created their own luck)
People were walking out as soon as we went 4-3 down, that shows how little faith there is.
I was pretty keen for the Bulmer signing in the summer but 0 goals, 0 assists, 0 pims and 0 interest in standing up for himself or the team. Very disappointing.
Fighting for that 8th place trophy already it seems.
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Post by Higgy on Oct 20, 2019 18:17:01 GMT
Another disappointing evening even after we looked better than certain games this season.
Lack of goalscoring chances means when we get them we must score them...if we dont we leave ourselves vulnerable.
You could hear a pin drop again tonight and until we start creating chances and actually looking like we will win games things will only get worse.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2019 18:32:04 GMT
The reason the same people post these things is time and time again Panthers dont learn and make the same mistakes time and time again. When Panthers went 1-0 up the conceded after 11 secs!! Then the collapse in the 3rd.. it's all too familiar story Onto the passengers Bulmer 0+0 and 0 pims! Malnquist 0+3 Quist 2 goals Golovkovs 2 goals Just WTF! Golovkovs - Malmquist - Hansen was our best line tonight, realistically they’d be a brilliant 3rd line. Quist isn’t helped being on a line with Bulmer, he’s the one that’s seriously letting us down IMO. From Doucet’s programme notes tonight it sounds like we’re waiting for the right player to become available, having split this weekend he might have got himself some more time. Sounds like the players he wants are too £££ I've seen this before hes waited for the right player and then bang.. they announce someone in the 'is this it' mode!
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Oct 20, 2019 18:33:05 GMT
Who would have ever thought after this afternoon especially that both teams cost the same? 😉
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Post by bobness on Oct 20, 2019 18:45:13 GMT
Who would have ever thought after this afternoon especially that both teams cost the same? 😉 And who knows that they do?
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Post by kievthegreat on Oct 20, 2019 18:50:32 GMT
Cardiff forecheck was a thing of beauty. I honestly think Cardiff were better for near enough all 60 minutes. With the puck in the Devils zone, we move it around get a shot off and then usually can't keep possession afterwards. Devils in our zone take far more shots, and then they win every battle in the corners and get to recycle. Look at the stats and there's only 3 Shots on Goal between teams, but Cardiff had far more shots total (42 vs 28) and they weren't miles wide on a lot of them.
Additionally they won 32 face-offs to our 19. Nearly twice as many! The problem is people who shouldn't be taking them having to, Ollie was 0-10 in the dot, Lacho 2-6, Bulmer 1-4. Perlini and Malmquist actually did well (8-6 and 8-5 respectively). Also we managed to lose 79% in our own zone.
As an aside, where were all the Devils fans? I know it's a Sunday, but they still usually bring a good number and make plenty of noise. Literally didn't hear a Devils chant until the 3rd period, and even then very quiet.
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Post by wolfmac on Oct 20, 2019 18:53:12 GMT
Eh, it’s Cardiff. Capitulation was bad but it’s only a catastrophe if forced into the context of general form, as another general defeat.
It is still early on and there isn’t a whole load with which you can accurately predict much about how the season will go for anyone, perhaps other than the fact Sheffield now have *fifty-one* goals in ten league games.
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Post by Bagheera on Oct 20, 2019 18:55:39 GMT
The team is now playing GD’s “vision” but we have nowhere near the skill or class to be able to play that way. Worked better yesterday as Cardiff had a huge off night. We will win some and lose a lot. Smallest crowd I have seen at a Cardiff game today too. Just shy of 5k on the gamesheet. 😂
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Post by mmmbop on Oct 20, 2019 18:56:21 GMT
Well that was normal dross. But what on earth was that Ladies night all about?? Maybe I missed something. Also I enjoyed seeing the 2 former players on scoreboard but sadly Panthers have managed to drive many of the old school fans away and so, from where I was sat, these casual fans had a look of blank faces as to say... 'Who's this'. Tho to be fair fans near me were clueless all game
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Post by Bagheera on Oct 20, 2019 19:01:21 GMT
Well that was normal dross. But what on earth was that Ladies night all about?? Maybe I missed something. Also I enjoyed seeing the 2 former players on scoreboard but sadly Panthers have managed to drive many of the old school fans away and so, from where I was sat, these casual fans had a look of blank faces as to say... 'Who's this'. Tho to be fair fans near me were clueless all game I absoloutly hate those vids. Love the legends, hate the cringe VT they do. I cant watch them at all. So embaressing.
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Post by mmmbop on Oct 20, 2019 19:05:07 GMT
Well that was normal dross. But what on earth was that Ladies night all about?? Maybe I missed something. Also I enjoyed seeing the 2 former players on scoreboard but sadly Panthers have managed to drive many of the old school fans away and so, from where I was sat, these casual fans had a look of blank faces as to say... 'Who's this'. Tho to be fair fans near me were clueless all game I absoloutly hate those vids. Love the legends, hate the cringe VT they do. I cant watch them at all. So embaressing. I did cringe when they did one with Jimmy Paek with the whole 'lets go panthers' which went down like a lead balloon
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Post by bobness on Oct 20, 2019 19:05:13 GMT
Cardiff forecheck was a thing of beauty. I honestly think Cardiff were better for near enough all 60 minutes. With the puck in the Devils zone, we move it around get a shot off and then usually can't keep possession afterwards. Devils in our zone take far more shots, and then they win every battle in the corners and get to recycle. Look at the stats and there's only 3 Shots on Goal between teams, but Cardiff had far more shots total (42 vs 28) and they weren't miles wide on a lot of them. Additionally they won 32 face-offs to our 19. Nearly twice as many! The problem is people who shouldn't be taking them having to, Ollie was 0-10 in the dot, Lacho 2-6, Bulmer 1-4. Perlini and Malmquist actually did well (8-6 and 8-5 respectively). Also we managed to lose 79% in our own zone. As an aside, where were all the Devils fans? I know it's a Sunday, but they still usually bring a good number and make plenty of noise. Literally didn't hear a Devils chant until the 3rd period, and even then very quiet. You may need to revisit those stats. Ollie ended up 5 for 10, for example. Point is 100% valid though. No Panther is winning more face offs than they lose all season so far.
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Post by wgray on Oct 20, 2019 19:11:47 GMT
Cardiff forecheck was a thing of beauty. I honestly think Cardiff were better for near enough all 60 minutes. With the puck in the Devils zone, we move it around get a shot off and then usually can't keep possession afterwards. Devils in our zone take far more shots, and then they win every battle in the corners and get to recycle. Look at the stats and there's only 3 Shots on Goal between teams, but Cardiff had far more shots total (42 vs 28) and they weren't miles wide on a lot of them. Additionally they won 32 face-offs to our 19. Nearly twice as many! The problem is people who shouldn't be taking them having to, Ollie was 0-10 in the dot, Lacho 2-6, Bulmer 1-4. Perlini and Malmquist actually did well (8-6 and 8-5 respectively). Also we managed to lose 79% in our own zone. As an aside, where were all the Devils fans? I know it's a Sunday, but they still usually bring a good number and make plenty of noise. Literally didn't hear a Devils chant until the 3rd period, and even then very quiet. You may need to revisit those stats. Ollie ended up 5 for 10, for example. Point is 100% valid though. No Panther is winning more face offs than they lose all season so far. Cardiff are excellent on face-offs. It’s still pretty evident that is where we are short though.
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Post by kievthegreat on Oct 20, 2019 19:15:40 GMT
Cardiff forecheck was a thing of beauty. I honestly think Cardiff were better for near enough all 60 minutes. With the puck in the Devils zone, we move it around get a shot off and then usually can't keep possession afterwards. Devils in our zone take far more shots, and then they win every battle in the corners and get to recycle. Look at the stats and there's only 3 Shots on Goal between teams, but Cardiff had far more shots total (42 vs 28) and they weren't miles wide on a lot of them. Additionally they won 32 face-offs to our 19. Nearly twice as many! The problem is people who shouldn't be taking them having to, Ollie was 0-10 in the dot, Lacho 2-6, Bulmer 1-4. Perlini and Malmquist actually did well (8-6 and 8-5 respectively). Also we managed to lose 79% in our own zone. As an aside, where were all the Devils fans? I know it's a Sunday, but they still usually bring a good number and make plenty of noise. Literally didn't hear a Devils chant until the 3rd period, and even then very quiet. You may need to revisit those stats. Ollie ended up 5 for 10, for example. Point is 100% valid though. No Panther is winning more face offs than they lose all season so far. Where are you looking? The EIHL stats show he got 5-10 yesterday, but 0-10 tonight. Happy to be corrected, but that's what the gamelog currently says. www.eliteleague.co.uk/player/45-oliver-betteridge/game-logwww.eliteleague.co.uk/game/735-not-car/stats
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Oct 20, 2019 19:16:58 GMT
Carr should have controlled the rebound on the 3rd goal, kicked it straight out front. Also, could have done better on the first and fourth. Maybe we've been spoilt with top quality keepers in the past.
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Post by kievthegreat on Oct 20, 2019 19:23:02 GMT
Carr should have controlled the rebound on the 3rd goal, kicked it straight out front. Also, could have done better on the first and fourth. Maybe we've been spoilt with top quality keepers in the past. Defintely poor rebound control on the 3rd, but would need a closer look at the other goals. They didn't seem soft though.
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Post by wannabe2 on Oct 20, 2019 19:24:30 GMT
With all due respect you only won last night because we were so aweful, we were better tonight and won. As far as travelling fans are concerned it’s a Sunday, and we played poo poo last night, which never helps.
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Post by loupowell52 on Oct 20, 2019 19:27:17 GMT
Bulmer has been a massive let down. Just does not look interested. Time for him to shape up or ship out.
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Post by Jord v4 on Oct 20, 2019 19:41:56 GMT
I'm more interested in the drums than the pointless score, how were the drums?
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Post by Yotes on Oct 20, 2019 19:51:37 GMT
I'm more interested in the drums than the pointless score, how were the drums? No drums til November.
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Post by kievthegreat on Oct 20, 2019 19:58:31 GMT
I'm more interested in the drums than the pointless score, how were the drums? No drums til November. That's why he's a "Former ITK"
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Post by pantherlee on Oct 20, 2019 19:59:27 GMT
Carr should have controlled the rebound on the 3rd goal, kicked it straight out front. Also, could have done better on the first and fourth. Maybe we've been spoilt with top quality keepers in the past. Defintely poor rebound control on the 3rd, but would need a closer look at the other goals. They didn't seem soft though. Don’t think there was much he could have done with the first goal. The fourth one though although it was a cannon of a shot it was right from the blue line and my first impression was that he wasn’t screened and should have saw it all the way
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Post by Mark on Oct 20, 2019 20:05:34 GMT
I'm more interested in the drums than the pointless score, how were the drums? No drums til November. Why? Aren’t the right drums available till then? Other teams seem to be able to get drums in straight away.
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