shinobi
Randall Weber
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Post by shinobi on Jul 20, 2018 13:04:26 GMT
I don't think anyone is suggesting your not allowed an opinion. What makes me laugh is that these opinions are based on nothing more than a stat page on elite prospects. Everything seems to think they have tis team figured out when they haven't even been on the ice yet. My own opinions on Biggs are based on watching him play, talking with fellow Marlies fans, scouting & development reports etc. |
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Post by PantherG on Jul 20, 2018 13:07:38 GMT
I don't think anyone is suggesting your not allowed an opinion. What makes me laugh is that these opinions are based on nothing more than a stat page on elite prospects. Everything seems to think they have tis team figured out when they haven't even been on the ice yet. My own opinions on Biggs are based on watching him play, talking with fellow Marlies fans, scouting & development reports etc. Can you please send us the links to the scouting and development reports, I would like to have a read of them. Many thanks |
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Post by Bagheera on Jul 20, 2018 13:15:18 GMT
But the problem is, on here and on social media some are essentially saying you arn't allowed an opinion.
At this point nobody has seen anybody play so can only really go off stats and experience as fans. If you had to wait for a team to play before passing comment it'd be pretty boring.
I don't think i've seen anybody write the team off. The majority who have raised concerns are simply suggesting perhaps there isn't enough flair, creativity and goals in this team, but that it's a new coach so let's see what happens.
I am excited by this team and look forward to seeing what a new coach brings, but I do have a bit of concern around goals.
The art of a reasoned debate with people of differing opinions appears to be lost on many these days. If you can't pass comment or debate things then you may aswell close the forum now. It appears unless you have an 100% outlook you arn't allowed to express it, but if it is positive that's o.k
Tbh the art of reasoned debate is lost on most anyway. If people disagree they tend to have to have a dig at the other person(This covers most people with positive or negative opinions).
What usually happens on here when people don't agree. "Are you drunk" "You'd have to pretty stupid" "Only idiots think".
When was the last time somebody started a post to disagree with something like.. "You know what, to be honest I dont agree with you because"?
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iginla
Chick Zamick
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Post by iginla on Jul 20, 2018 14:15:03 GMT
But the problem is, on here and on social media some are essentially saying you arn't allowed an opinion. At this point nobody has seen anybody play so can only really go off stats and experience as fans. If you had to wait for a team to play before passing comment it'd be pretty boring. I don't think i've seen anybody write the team off. The majority who have raised concerns are simply suggesting perhaps there isn't enough flair, creativity and goals in this team, but that it's a new coach so let's see what happens. I am excited by this team and look forward to seeing what a new coach brings, but I do have a bit of concern around goals. The art of a reasoned debate with people of differing opinions appears to be lost on many these days. If you can't pass comment or debate things then you may aswell close the forum now. It appears unless you have an 100% outlook you arn't allowed to express it, but if it is positive that's o.k Tbh the art of reasoned debate is lost on most anyway. If people disagree they tend to have to have a dig at the other person(This covers most people with positive or negative opinions). What usually happens on here when people don't agree. "Are you drunk" "You'd have to pretty stupid" "Only idiots think". When was the last time somebody started a post to disagree with something like.. "You know what, to be honest I dont agree with you because"? Good post 👍 |
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Post by cooperphil156 on Jul 20, 2018 14:48:00 GMT
I don't think anyone is suggesting your not allowed an opinion. What makes me laugh is that these opinions are based on nothing more than a stat page on elite prospects. Everything seems to think they have tis team figured out when they haven't even been on the ice yet. Exactly!!!! |
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Chick Zamick
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Post by iginla on Jul 20, 2018 15:13:29 GMT
I don't think anyone is suggesting your not allowed an opinion. What makes me laugh is that these opinions are based on nothing more than a stat page on elite prospects. Everything seems to think they have tis team figured out when they haven't even been on the ice yet. Exactly!!!! To be fair to the Panthers fans though they do get it right quite often just from those stats. This time last year the general feeling was Panthers were looking short of goals and so it proved. |
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Post by pantherlee on Jul 20, 2018 15:25:29 GMT
The difference this year though is the coach is an unknown quantity. I know Corey gets a lot of flack but you kind of knew the kind of team we were getting but his recruitment seemed to be bit sloppy for want of a better word. You can tell this year though that Rich is a lot more targeted by the type of players we are signing and we don't yet have a clue what kind of system we'll be playing. We're in more unknown territory than we're used to at the minute which is why i don't think accurate judgements can be made at the minute
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Post by ted logan on Jul 20, 2018 15:27:04 GMT
I think it's sometimes looked upon a little too simplistically (not necessarily on here) as big d-man = lumbering oaf.
I'm sure Cherno knows what he's doing. The main cause for concern amongst most fans (myself included) is the 'sameyness' of the forwards and a potential lack of goals.
Pretty sure we will be entertained though win or lose.
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Joe
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Post by Joe on Jul 20, 2018 16:09:45 GMT
But the problem is, on here and on social media some are essentially saying you arn't allowed an opinion. At this point nobody has seen anybody play so can only really go off stats and experience as fans. If you had to wait for a team to play before passing comment it'd be pretty boring. I don't think i've seen anybody write the team off. The majority who have raised concerns are simply suggesting perhaps there isn't enough flair, creativity and goals in this team, but that it's a new coach so let's see what happens. I am excited by this team and look forward to seeing what a new coach brings, but I do have a bit of concern around goals. The art of a reasoned debate with people of differing opinions appears to be lost on many these days. If you can't pass comment or debate things then you may aswell close the forum now. It appears unless you have an 100% outlook you arn't allowed to express it, but if it is positive that's o.k Tbh the art of reasoned debate is lost on most anyway. If people disagree they tend to have to have a dig at the other person(This covers most people with positive or negative opinions). What usually happens on here when people don't agree. "Are you drunk" "You'd have to pretty stupid" "Only idiots think". When was the last time somebody started a post to disagree with something like.. "You know what, to be honest I dont agree with you because"? While I agree, for me I don’t see it as negativity being aimed at people with a differing opinion but more at a certain few on here who make absolute statements rather than opinions but still claim that they are providing an opinion. |
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Post by cjones on Jul 20, 2018 17:00:32 GMT
But the problem is, on here and on social media some are essentially saying you arn't allowed an opinion. At this point nobody has seen anybody play so can only really go off stats and experience as fans. If you had to wait for a team to play before passing comment it'd be pretty boring. I don't think i've seen anybody write the team off. The majority who have raised concerns are simply suggesting perhaps there isn't enough flair, creativity and goals in this team, but that it's a new coach so let's see what happens. I am excited by this team and look forward to seeing what a new coach brings, but I do have a bit of concern around goals. The art of a reasoned debate with people of differing opinions appears to be lost on many these days. If you can't pass comment or debate things then you may aswell close the forum now. It appears unless you have an 100% outlook you arn't allowed to express it, but if it is positive that's o.k Tbh the art of reasoned debate is lost on most anyway. If people disagree they tend to have to have a dig at the other person(This covers most people with positive or negative opinions). What usually happens on here when people don't agree. "Are you drunk" "You'd have to pretty stupid" "Only idiots think". When was the last time somebody started a post to disagree with something like.. "You know what, to be honest I dont agree with you because"? Of course you’re allowed an opinion but if it differs to mine then you’re just plain wrong 🤪😂 |
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