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Post by simonm on Feb 18, 2018 20:23:49 GMT
Mmmmmmmmmm but a quality manager should be able to put his personal feeling aside for the betterment of the club ?
Failure to do this would clearly highlight a key skill that Moran lacks. You'd therefore expect him to pull out all the stops to prove exactly the opposite otherwise as they say the buck stops....I
I say let's have the spot light on him.
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Post by Mark on Feb 18, 2018 20:37:58 GMT
I wonder if Brock Wilson will apply ? Bet he does. 😀 I think he probably would aswell but I think he’s burnt his bridges here by calling out the management a couple of months ago. Haha... just seen your post Mark, put a lot better than mine. Great minds think alike.
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Post by Robbie Nud on Feb 19, 2018 12:02:44 GMT
Harking back to the post about Canadian coaches not respecting british players, is Lord better because he has played the game here and has seen first hand the importance of the local players.
Would a player-coach be an option with a bench assistant coach ie Clarke?
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Post by simonm on Feb 19, 2018 18:38:16 GMT
I think it's an option... Of course a player coach treads a very narrow path between being a team mate and a boss. I've seen it work and fail. Personally I prefer player coaches as they have an investment in the style of play and players around them performing..
When it's going well it's great, when it goes wrong it's spectacular.
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Post by Yotes on Feb 19, 2018 19:16:15 GMT
Would a player-coach be an option with a bench assistant coach ie Clarke? Do you mean Clarke as the player-coach? If so, I'd pass personally. If we went out and got a top quality veteran looking to start his coaching career, even one new to the league, I'd be happy with a player-coach. Any value in poaching someone like Jim Vandermeer from Belfast to come in as our HC? He's assistant to Keefe (I think).
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Post by Robbie Nud on Feb 19, 2018 20:50:24 GMT
No, Clarke to go behind the bench.
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Post by wgray on Feb 20, 2018 10:26:22 GMT
Would a player-coach be an option with a bench assistant coach ie Clarke? Any value in poaching someone like Jim Vandermeer from Belfast to come in as our HC? He's assistant to Keefe (I think). That’s a good idea, he’s a terrific defenceman and will certainly have some contacts.
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Post by pingchowchi on Feb 20, 2018 10:42:19 GMT
What about Lepine as player coach? Clarke to assist and be a spare Brit should we need him?
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Post by jdizpt8 on Feb 20, 2018 11:31:16 GMT
Brock Wilson - Head Coach Cam Janssen - Assistant Coach David Clarke - Braehead to learn his trade further as assistant.
Think of the connections, former team mates, recommendations, attraction and accountability those two would bring to the club. I’d hate to be the player who didn’t turn up for games with those two in the locker room
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Post by iginla on Feb 20, 2018 12:54:36 GMT
Brock Wilson - Head Coach Cam Janssen - Assistant Coach David Clarke - Braehead to learn his trade further as assistant. Think of the connections, former team mates, recommendations, attraction and accountability those two would bring to the club. I’d hate to be the player who didn’t turn up for games with those two in the locker room Haha love it. Post game interviews (with Xynomix) would never be the same again ! 😂😂
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Post by wasteoftime on Feb 20, 2018 13:53:57 GMT
We can wish all we want. Moran will hire the new coach, I cant see it being someone who would tell him where to go.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2018 16:31:43 GMT
Until there's hockey men in the front office making hockey based decisions then this club is going nowhere ! FACT
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Post by Yotes on Feb 20, 2018 17:21:51 GMT
Until there's hockey men in the front office making hockey based decisions then this club is going nowhere ! FACT Fairly recent history would point to that not being correct.
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Post by pantherdman on Feb 20, 2018 17:23:18 GMT
Or until we decide to become a hockey team rather than Saturday night sports entertainment.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2018 18:19:14 GMT
Until there's hockey men in the front office making hockey based decisions then this club is going nowhere ! FACT Fairly recent history would point to that not being correct. I wouldn't let a ex Radio man appoint a hockey coach! end of!
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Post by Yotes on Feb 20, 2018 18:31:33 GMT
He (with Blacky) appointed Neilson, who won a lot of stuff with us, whatever any of us might think about his reign.
In fact they appointed Ellis too, again was successful on the ice (in comparative terms to what we were used to).
It might take luck for him to find a decent coach, but if he manages it and manages not to upset them so much they then leave again, there's no reason we shouldn't be successful.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2018 18:37:48 GMT
He (with Blacky) appointed Neilson, who won a lot of stuff with us, whatever any of us might think about his reign. In fact they appointed Ellis too, again was successful on the ice (in comparative terms to what we were used to). It might take luck for him to find a decent coach, but if he manages it and manages not to upset them so much they then leave again, there's no reason we shouldn't be successful. I don't care what's happened before. The pair of them have very little hockey knowledge. The chairmen absolutely zero! I have no confidence in them making the right decision. This will be a easy/cheap appointment like it or not!
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Post by Yotes on Feb 20, 2018 18:50:14 GMT
I have no confidence in them making the right decision. Nothing wrong with that, I too have very little confidence in either of them, but none of us can write the new guy off before he's even been named.
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Post by simonm on Feb 20, 2018 18:54:14 GMT
So we can write him off once he's named ? Or at that point do we have to give him some time ?
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Post by Yotes on Feb 20, 2018 19:03:47 GMT
So we can write him off once he's named ? Or at that point do we have to give him some time ? It would seem sensible to give him a couple of years at least, yes. Although I suspect Pidge is right that the path of least resistance will be taken, there's no guarantee they won't surprise us (we'll know that when we know who), and more importantly nothing to say the easy option won't work out. Neilson was also the easy option.
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Post by grumpy on Feb 21, 2018 22:30:52 GMT
Surely it`s going to be Russell? Too much of a coincidence that his departure from MK is perfectly synchronized with Corey`s announcement. The two have worked together with GB and Russell favours an attacking style of hockey which puts bums on seats. He is a good coach, he has achieved success with GB where other, bigger names, failed, he`s won trophies in The EPL but MK have been decimated by injuries this season. Talk of McSorley or an experienced, and successful, coach from North America is surely fanciful - why would they want to come to The EIHL? Recruitment is a potential problem but that will always be the case unless we recruit a GM in the mould of Kellman or Thornton, with a hockey background, leaving the coach to "direct the traffic" as Paul Adey put it.If it is Russell, possibly his biggest challenge will be the level of expectation here. Corey`s departure was inevitable given the abysmal results over the past few months and consistent under-performance in the league but he has given us unprecedented success - his critics should look at our record before his arrival. He will be a hard act to follow and a new coach is always a gamble-remember Christiansen at Sheffield? Success needs a team effort, off and on the ice, and it will be interesting to see what other changes are made.
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Post by iginla on Feb 22, 2018 0:07:02 GMT
Surely it`s going to be Russell? Too much of a coincidence that his departure from MK is perfectly synchronized with Corey`s announcement. The two have worked together with GB and Russell favours an attacking style of hockey which puts bums on seats. He is a good coach, he has achieved success with GB where other, bigger names, failed, he`s won trophies in The EPL but MK have been decimated by injuries this season. Talk of McSorley or an experienced, and successful, coach from North America is surely fanciful - why would they want to come to The EIHL? Recruitment is a potential problem but that will always be the case unless we recruit a GM in the mould of Kellman or Thornton, with a hockey background, leaving the coach to "direct the traffic" as Paul Adey put it.If it is Russell, possibly his biggest challenge will be the level of expectation here. Corey`s departure was inevitable given the abysmal results over the past few months and consistent under-performance in the league but he has given us unprecedented success - his critics should look at our record before his arrival. He will be a hard act to follow and a new coach is always a gamble-remember Christiansen at Sheffield? Success needs a team effort, off and on the ice, and it will be interesting to see what other changes are made. Your not going to get a high profile North American coach at Panthers,but somebody from the ECHL or similar should have plenty of contacts and be able to make a mark over here. Look at Lord,Finnerty,Dutiame and Keefe,they are all low profile North Americans and their teams are all well above Panthers in the league standings. If these guys can do it then it shows you don't need a high profile coach,just the right one. As for Doug Christiansen,well that was just a terrible choice by the Steelers. He was never going to last long there,a brash,straight talking arsy American who stood no nonsense was always going to clash with the powers that be with all the silly shenanigans that go on up in Sheffield. I said at the time it wouldn't last six months and it didn't. And exactly the same thing would have happened had he ever landed in Pantherland.
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Post by Daddio on Mar 4, 2018 15:32:54 GMT
Dan Ceman Recently left his team in Denmark where he won 2 championships, not so good this year but has experience and knowledge of our league?
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Post by fishman on Mar 4, 2018 16:02:14 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 16:31:10 GMT
Dan Ceman Recently left his team in Denmark where he won 2 championships, not so good this year but has experience and knowledge of our league? 😉
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