New jerseys

[iginla]

And then they post a picture of our half a team enjoying burger and chips washed down with a pint of lager or two !

# professional team my backside !!

[pantherdman]

What a joke, they've either not thought it through or the jerseys aren't here yet. £70 for something you've not seen? That is arrogant milking of the golden cow. Some will still be queuing up for it.

[nate24]

You can pick up a gamer for £100 once the season goes on a bit. I'd hold out.

[PantherB]

The players' jerseys are here, socks too. IceLocker have been given a handful of replicas so people can try them on and look at them.

They won't post a full picture because they want a big crowd for Braehead and if people are going to the game, they'll take a look, then others who aren't going to the game might nip down for a look and decide to go to the game anyway.

It's nothing sinister. Should we have them here? Probably but unless you're going on away trips, you would only get to wear it once between now and 17th September.. If we started the season with a home stand then the jerseys would be here, the schedule has allowed for Warrior/IceLocker to be organised and get them in for the first proper game without doubt.

Seeing as IceLocker have to restock stuff is it not on them to get the jerseys in? Has been in the past so as always it's yet more Panthers bashing for the sake of it. The club has much more important things to worry about than when fans will get their replica jersey.. It's not like we've got until April to buy one...

[Rob Scott]

Aug 19, 2016 10:02:36 GMT PantherB said:

The players' jerseys are here, socks too. IceLocker have been given a handful of replicas so people can try them on and look at them.

They won't post a full picture because they want a big crowd for Braehead and if people are going to the game, they'll take a look, then others who aren't going to the game might nip down for a look and decide to go to the game anyway.

It's nothing sinister. Should we have them here? Probably but unless you're going on away trips, you would only get to wear it once between now and 17th September.. If we started the season with a home stand then the jerseys would be here, the schedule has allowed for Warrior/IceLocker to be organised and get them in for the first proper game without doubt.

Seeing as IceLocker have to restock stuff is it not on them to get the jerseys in? Has been in the past so as always it's yet more Panthers bashing for the sake of it. The club has much more important things to worry about than when fans will get their replica jersey.. It's not like we've got until April to buy one...

Like getting the team here for the start of the "training camp"?

[Pies]

Aug 19, 2016 10:02:36 GMT PantherB said:

The players' jerseys are here, socks too. IceLocker have been given a handful of replicas so people can try them on and look at them.

They won't post a full picture because they want a big crowd for Braehead and if people are going to the game, they'll take a look, then others who aren't going to the game might nip down for a look and decide to go to the game anyway.

It's nothing sinister. Should we have them here? Probably but unless you're going on away trips, you would only get to wear it once between now and 17th September.. If we started the season with a home stand then the jerseys would be here, the schedule has allowed for Warrior/IceLocker to be organised and get them in for the first proper game without doubt.

Seeing as IceLocker have to restock stuff is it not on them to get the jerseys in? Has been in the past so as always it's yet more Panthers bashing for the sake of it. The club has much more important things to worry about than when fans will get their replica jersey.. It's not like we've got until April to buy one...

You wouldn't get to wear it just once if you're going to the away games like some of us are. It's about the pride of being able to wear your teams colours when you're representing them in the crowd. And yes you can wear old shirts but some people would rather have the new ones for the new season.

And the Panthers should worry about these things. In the summer their job is to sign players, get them over here, sort fixtures and get the fans excited for the new season. They have failed in this respect and they should be held to account.

The shirt tweets were nothing sort of a disaster and not having them in stock for a new season isn't clever. It's not like the club haven't had since last April to sort them is it?

[The Flying Shirt]

Aug 19, 2016 10:02:36 GMT PantherB said:

The players' jerseys are here, socks too. IceLocker have been given a handful of replicas so people can try them on and look at them.

They won't post a full picture because they want a big crowd for Braehead and if people are going to the game, they'll take a look, then others who aren't going to the game might nip down for a look and decide to go to the game anyway.

It's nothing sinister. Should we have them here? Probably but unless you're going on away trips, you would only get to wear it once between now and 17th September.. If we started the season with a home stand then the jerseys would be here, the schedule has allowed for Warrior/IceLocker to be organised and get them in for the first proper game without doubt.

Seeing as IceLocker have to restock stuff is it not on them to get the jerseys in? Has been in the past so as always it's yet more Panthers bashing for the sake of it. The club has much more important things to worry about than when fans will get their replica jersey.. It's not like we've got until April to buy one...

More important things? Like making sure we don't throw the season away at the Scotish triple header this year? Making sure all of the players who actually are here are brow beaten into the first quiz night? Think up new nicknames for the new players? Sharpening Dan Greens pencil?

[Stargazer]

Aug 19, 2016 10:51:28 GMT The Flying Shirt said:

Aug 19, 2016 10:02:36 GMT PantherB said:

The players' jerseys are here, socks too. IceLocker have been given a handful of replicas so people can try them on and look at them.

They won't post a full picture because they want a big crowd for Braehead and if people are going to the game, they'll take a look, then others who aren't going to the game might nip down for a look and decide to go to the game anyway.

It's nothing sinister. Should we have them here? Probably but unless you're going on away trips, you would only get to wear it once between now and 17th September.. If we started the season with a home stand then the jerseys would be here, the schedule has allowed for Warrior/IceLocker to be organised and get them in for the first proper game without doubt.

Seeing as IceLocker have to restock stuff is it not on them to get the jerseys in? Has been in the past so as always it's yet more Panthers bashing for the sake of it. The club has much more important things to worry about than when fans will get their replica jersey.. It's not like we've got until April to buy one...

More important things? Like making sure we don't throw the season away at the Scotish triple header this year? Making sure all of the players who actually are here are brow beaten into the first quiz night? Think up new nicknames for the new players? Sharpening Dan Greens pencil?

Sod the shirts! You forgot the Beefcake callendar FS. As long as this is ready on time my other half is content....... I mean, who can't not see the appeal of 20 or so topless guys with forced smiles in tram depot.

[iginla]

Aug 19, 2016 10:02:36 GMT PantherB said:

The players' jerseys are here, socks too. IceLocker have been given a handful of replicas so people can try them on and look at them.

They won't post a full picture because they want a big crowd for Braehead and if people are going to the game, they'll take a look, then others who aren't going to the game might nip down for a look and decide to go to the game anyway.

It's nothing sinister. Should we have them here? Probably but unless you're going on away trips, you would only get to wear it once between now and 17th September.. If we started the season with a home stand then the jerseys would be here, the schedule has allowed for Warrior/IceLocker to be organised and get them in for the first proper game without doubt.

Seeing as IceLocker have to restock stuff is it not on them to get the jerseys in? Has been in the past so as always it's yet more Panthers bashing for the sake of it. The club has much more important things to worry about than when fans will get their replica jersey.. It's not like we've got until April to buy one...

Are you being serious ?
Either you are totally one eyed when it comes to blindly defending Panthers or you don't think through your argument.

Yes there is more important stuff than shirts,like actually putting a full team on the ice.
But instead we get a complete joke of a shirt launch and blatant lies from the management about how many players we are missing.

If ever there was a reason to miss a match or not buy a shirt......you and Panthers just nailed it big time !!!

[PantherB]

Aug 19, 2016 13:05:45 GMT iginla said:

Aug 19, 2016 10:02:36 GMT PantherB said:

The players' jerseys are here, socks too. IceLocker have been given a handful of replicas so people can try them on and look at them.

They won't post a full picture because they want a big crowd for Braehead and if people are going to the game, they'll take a look, then others who aren't going to the game might nip down for a look and decide to go to the game anyway.

It's nothing sinister. Should we have them here? Probably but unless you're going on away trips, you would only get to wear it once between now and 17th September.. If we started the season with a home stand then the jerseys would be here, the schedule has allowed for Warrior/IceLocker to be organised and get them in for the first proper game without doubt.

Seeing as IceLocker have to restock stuff is it not on them to get the jerseys in? Has been in the past so as always it's yet more Panthers bashing for the sake of it. The club has much more important things to worry about than when fans will get their replica jersey.. It's not like we've got until April to buy one...

Are you being serious ?
Either you are totally one eyed when it comes to blindly defending Panthers or you don't think through your argument.

Yes there is more important stuff than shirts,like actually putting a full team on the ice.
But instead we get a complete joke of a shirt launch and blatant lies from the management about how many players we are missing.

If ever there was a reason to miss a match or not buy a shirt......you and Panthers just nailed it big time !!!

I'm just not one who slates the team for every single thing.

It's not a joke, and it's not Panthers' who are ordering the replica's. Storm have done the exact same, having fans pre-order jerseys without them seeing it. They may have done a very unrevealing teaser for each but nobody knows what they look like. I say that but i've seen the CC jersey of theirs, it's nice.

We have one game between now and Sept. 17th, IceLocker, who order the jerseys, will have seen the schedule and have ordered them in time for the first real competitive game, it'll keep their shop tidy for a few more weeks and put more focus on other Panthers Merch. They have bought in. I wish the jerseys were here now, i buy one every season but unlike some, i'm not blunt and don't see it as shocking organisation, a poor reveal etc.. Panthers are improving their teasing of the jerseys on Twitter, interviewing players and posting it, they talk about the jerseys and their favourites etc.. Yes, it could've been done much earlier, but regardless, IceLocker still wouldn't have had the jerseys in for sale so what's the point?

Lies from management? They haven't lied, they've just not been good on the communication. They've mentioned that a few players are experiencing delays and trouble on the Visa front, we know who isn't here yet and besides Spang, who they've said may be here tomorrow, it's obvious who they're talking about but they just do it in a way where they assume we know, which isn't very good in terms of clarification.

Corey has not once moaned or voiced his disappointment in regards to some players not being here, he has confidence in who is here. He knows the Visa System, he knows what problems players will face and he understands it, he's adapting and getting by with what he has.

Might sound strong but games would actually be better without some of these constantly negative fans. You pay to see Panthers, you'll see them.. Not going and having a hissy fit because certain individuals aren't here yet is pathetic, you're still going to be watching the Panthers.

I defend the team probably more than most on here, am i blind to their issues? No. Do i understand them? Yes. I'm a fan of hockey, as well as the Panthers and regardless of whether we have the worst team on paper in the league, or the best, will i continue spending my money to go? 100%. It's the best sport in the world and i won't get all upset and have a fit if a few players are missing for whatever reasons.

[texpef]

Again apologist... sorry and I don't like doing this but close to blocking this guy as this is so rose tinted its unbelievable..

1. Its irrelevant whether or not other clubs do this with their shirts as that is not the club I follow

2. Again its irrelevant how many games are between now and 17th sept (see previous arguments) but one of the KEY MAJOR jobs of the management is to get prepared for the season starting and shirt availability falls under this.

3. Ice Locker, you seem to be of the opinion that its ice locker who order the jerseys? Why? surely without the panthers there would be little point in stocking said item and even that would have come from the management. They would only be able to "order" these when the panthers say they can. Who do you think takes the lions share of the profits? You say they weren't on sale earlier so whats the point? THAT IS THE POINT...

4. Lies or poor communication, either way not how a professional organisation should be run. Imho they have deliberately withheld truths purely to sell tickets in that more people are more likely to go if they think more of the team will be there, i.e. so imho misleading the fan base at best. You may be happy with this but I can tell you Im not. Again this is a key responsibility of the management to prepare for the new season, IF players aren't here then that is another area that they are not achieving what should be their key targets.

5. CN might not have voiced his opinion but my opinion is that CN is very much a yes man which is why he got the job in the first place and possibly a reason that he has maintained it despite annually underachieving in what should be the big prize in ice hockey in this country, lets put it this way would you slag off your management whilst still in a job because I know I wouldn't.

6. These "constantly negative fans" as you put it are the reason we still have a club who supported them when they were regularly getting beat 11-0 and who have seen the likes are Cardiff and Sheffield (and ALOT others) come along splash big money and win league titles year in year out and who now feel that with the support and money earned in Nottingham there is no reason that we cannot now do the same. In fact I think at once point I had seen every other club win a league title including the likes of Bracknell, Ayr and Manchester but not Nottingham. so thanks for calling me negative when all I see is a club showing more interest in generating cash than league titles.

7. While on the subject, thanks again for calling me pathetic , always in the market for some constructive criticism, tell me this again when we have gone another 10 years without a league title.

8. You defend the team........ blindly.... FULLSTOP.

[reece182]

Who knew a jersey would cause so much friction?

[texpef]

tip of the ice berg stuff Reece, think its more about a general attitude than purely a lack of jersey... well imho it is anyway.

[pantherman66]

Oh dear texpef and iginla, you have found somebody in PantherB who is as positive, rose tinted specs, happy clapper, as you two are negative towards the Panthers organisation, and you obviously don't like it. When all is said and done, we are all entitled to our opinions, but it gets more than tiresome when everything Panthers do is criticised by the usual suspects. Examples being, suprise shown at Lachowicz being spelt correctly on the 'teaser' shirt photo, yes I know there are spelling mistakes on the official site from time to time, but this is not a 'Panthers thing', they occur all the time in all forms of typed media. Also assuming, we the fans (well some of us anyway), would be asked to pay for something upfront we have not been able to see. When in fact it turns out there will be samples of the new jerseys on view, again all very unnecessary.

[iginla]

Aug 19, 2016 15:08:30 GMT texpef said:

Again apologist... sorry and I don't like doing this but close to blocking this guy as this is so rose tinted its unbelievable..

1. Its irrelevant whether or not other clubs do this with their shirts as that is not the club I follow

2. Again its irrelevant how many games are between now and 17th sept (see previous arguments) but one of the KEY MAJOR jobs of the management is to get prepared for the season starting and shirt availability falls under this.

3. Ice Locker, you seem to be of the opinion that its ice locker who order the jerseys? Why? surely without the panthers there would be little point in stocking said item and even that would have come from the management. They would only be able to "order" these when the panthers say they can. Who do you think takes the lions share of the profits? You say they weren't on sale earlier so whats the point? THAT IS THE POINT...

4. Lies or poor communication, either way not how a professional organisation should be run. Imho they have deliberately withheld truths purely to sell tickets in that more people are more likely to go if they think more of the team will be there, i.e. so imho misleading the fan base at best. You may be happy with this but I can tell you Im not. Again this is a key responsibility of the management to prepare for the new season, IF players aren't here then that is another area that they are not achieving what should be their key targets.

5. CN might not have voiced his opinion but my opinion is that CN is very much a yes man which is why he got the job in the first place and possibly a reason that he has maintained it despite annually underachieving in what should be the big prize in ice hockey in this country, lets put it this way would you slag off your management whilst still in a job because I know I wouldn't.

6. These "constantly negative fans" as you put it are the reason we still have a club who supported them when they were regularly getting beat 11-0 and who have seen the likes are Cardiff and Sheffield (and ALOT others) come along splash big money and win league titles year in year out and who now feel that with the support and money earned in Nottingham there is no reason that we cannot now do the same. In fact I think at once point I had seen every other club win a league title including the likes of Bracknell, Ayr and Manchester but not Nottingham. so thanks for calling me negative when all I see is a club showing more interest in generating cash than league titles.

7. While on the subject, thanks again for calling me pathetic , always in the market for some constructive criticism, tell me this again when we have gone another 10 years without a league title.

8. You defend the team........ blindly.... FULLSTOP.

Spot on Tex.

Corey signs the team and waits too long,so he can hardly moan when he starts short can he.

As for lies about how many players we are short.
Have they announced Sertich,Carter,Macmillan etc arriving.....Yes.
Have they announced Moran,Schultz or Dimmen arriving....No
Therefore they are either telling lies,incompetent or keeping the fans in the dark to sell tickets.

What are we supposed to think ?
Whichever way you look at it or try to dress it up,it's a very very poor show !

[iginla]

Aug 19, 2016 15:51:47 GMT pantherman66 said:

Oh dear texpef and iginla, you have found somebody in PantherB who is as positive, rose tinted specs, happy clapper, as you two are negative towards the Panthers organisation, and you obviously don't like it. When all is said and done, we are all entitled to our opinions, but it gets more than tiresome when everything Panthers do is criticised by the usual suspects. Examples being, suprise shown at Lachowicz being spelt correctly on the 'teaser' shirt photo, yes I know there are spelling mistakes on the official site from time to time, but this is not a 'Panthers thing', they occur all the time in all forms of typed media. Also assuming, we the fans (well some of us anyway), would be asked to pay for something upfront we have not been able to see. When in fact it turns out there will be samples of the new jerseys on view, again all very unnecessary.

Have they officially told us "there will be a jersey to view" If they have I haven't seen it ?
And why pre order,why not just delay the shirt launch so you can view and buy ?

Would you buy a suit without seeing it first ?
All I would say is,make sure the shirt you are ordering is going to be exactly the same quality as the sample !

[Yotes]

Yes they have told us that. They've said there'll be jerseys to try on at this thing on Saturday morning.

My problem with this bit isn't that they're having an "event" to launch the things, but more that we get the "big news at 3, stay tuned!" stuff, when there isn't any big news, just a delay until Saturday. Then they bungle it as usual, the information isn't clear so people have to go looking for answers.

Manchester have been mentioned, a club who have existed in their current form for just over a year now. Look at their website and communication with their fans, we're not even close. They get fairly regular messages from the GM, we get the club spokeswoman telling us good seats are still available.

It's death by a thousand cuts with Panthers, they're often not big things when taken on their own, but there's tons of them and they don't need to happen.

[deadbunny]

Aug 19, 2016 16:16:33 GMT Yotes said:

Yes they have told us that. They've said there'll be jerseys to try on at this thing on Saturday morning.

My problem with this bit isn't that they're having an "event" to launch the things, but more that we get the "big news at 3, stay tuned!" stuff, when there isn't any big news, just a delay until Saturday. Then they bungle it as usual, the information isn't clear so people have to go looking for answers.

Manchester have been mentioned, a club who have existed in their current form for just over a year now. Look at their website and communication with their fans, we're not even close. They get fairly regular messages from the GM, we get the club spokeswoman telling us good seats are still available.

It's death by a thousand cuts with Panthers, they're often not big things when taken on their own, but there's tons of them and they don't need to happen.

Literally all comes down to everyone getting peeved by the aged, unnecessary hype week in week out from someone who refuses to move with the times.

Seriously, how much freedom do we really think Calum will be getting? He's just the new face (and gender) for "Panthers Spokeswoman"

[PantherB]

Aug 19, 2016 15:08:30 GMT texpef said:

Again apologist... sorry and I don't like doing this but close to blocking this guy as this is so rose tinted its unbelievable..

1. Its irrelevant whether or not other clubs do this with their shirts as that is not the club I follow

2. Again its irrelevant how many games are between now and 17th sept (see previous arguments) but one of the KEY MAJOR jobs of the management is to get prepared for the season starting and shirt availability falls under this.

3. Ice Locker, you seem to be of the opinion that its ice locker who order the jerseys? Why? surely without the panthers there would be little point in stocking said item and even that would have come from the management. They would only be able to "order" these when the panthers say they can. Who do you think takes the lions share of the profits? You say they weren't on sale earlier so whats the point? THAT IS THE POINT...

4. Lies or poor communication, either way not how a professional organisation should be run. Imho they have deliberately withheld truths purely to sell tickets in that more people are more likely to go if they think more of the team will be there, i.e. so imho misleading the fan base at best. You may be happy with this but I can tell you Im not. Again this is a key responsibility of the management to prepare for the new season, IF players aren't here then that is another area that they are not achieving what should be their key targets.

5. CN might not have voiced his opinion but my opinion is that CN is very much a yes man which is why he got the job in the first place and possibly a reason that he has maintained it despite annually underachieving in what should be the big prize in ice hockey in this country, lets put it this way would you slag off your management whilst still in a job because I know I wouldn't.

6. These "constantly negative fans" as you put it are the reason we still have a club who supported them when they were regularly getting beat 11-0 and who have seen the likes are Cardiff and Sheffield (and ALOT others) come along splash big money and win league titles year in year out and who now feel that with the support and money earned in Nottingham there is no reason that we cannot now do the same. In fact I think at once point I had seen every other club win a league title including the likes of Bracknell, Ayr and Manchester but not Nottingham. so thanks for calling me negative when all I see is a club showing more interest in generating cash than league titles.

7. While on the subject, thanks again for calling me pathetic , always in the market for some constructive criticism, tell me this again when we have gone another 10 years without a league title.

8. You defend the team........ blindly.... FULLSTOP.

You talk a lot of crap about Panthers to say you support them!

You can block me if you want, i genuinely do not care, you just can't face any opinion which is based off of understanding problems and actually supporting the team. Is my opinion right? I'd never say it is but i do my best to base my opinion off of facts and research. Yours? Sounds very much ideological with not much substance, but i'm open to waiting for the proof of the accusations you send Panthers' way.

So because the Replica's are here, our preparation is a complete disaster? The club is focused on the players, training, schedules, bonding, sorting sponsorship stuff out, and then.. and then, the merch, it brings in a nice profit for the club but if it's anything like CH then they don't get much of a profit from each jersey sale. IceLocker will take a cut and the rest will be production costs. There's a billion and one things more important than having jerseys in on time, it's not like they've been scrapped and cancelled. You'll be able to buy one in September, you'll still be able to buy them in April. Not having them in isn't very good but for IceLocker it isn't a big deal because you'll (Anyone) still buy one, and between now and when they're available, they can focus on selling the other merch which doesn't get as much attention. The arena will probably be around half full, or half empty for you pessimists and by the time the jerseys are here, our first home league game will likely be close to a sell out.. Answer this, would IceLocker rather have their jerseys on sale now with half their potential customers not even attending the game, or would they rather give it a bit more time and wait to put them on sale properly for when the arena is nearly full and they'll have a lot more people coming through the doors? Look at it from a business point of view.

Misleading the fan base, it's not difficult to see why people will think this but when there is constant negativity and a lack of trust in Panthers from some, it's even easier to see why you and others feel that way. Can you prove it? No. But it's your opinion and if that's how you feel, it's how you feel. But like i said above, they're getting on with a lot more important things than the jerseys and if they wanted to sell more tickets they'd have gotten some jerseys on sale tomorrow. As for players, we don'y know the exact circumstances. Though when the entire league usually faces the exact same issues, year in year out in some shape or form, it's very unfair to tear into Panthers as if every club but us have all of their players in, match fit and ready to play.

Neilson isn't scared to speak his mind. He won't unleash both barrels but he won't stay silent to preserve his job stability. He's like Brad Moran, another who will say things as they are. We didn't play well.. Corey will say so and point out the weak areas, but not in a way like Walser would and threaten the jobs of players, he'll say it and then go on to say that they will be working on it during training. But again, as i said earlier, Corey has been through the Visa Process and spent years signing players going through it, being informed of their progress etc.. So he knows fullwell what it's like and if he's not voicing his displeasure then he, unlike some fans, understands it. How do we know that a player hasn't sent incorrect information by mistake, or the post has lost their passport? There's a whole bunch of factors as to why some players aren't here yet. I do 100% wish we had all players a week before traning camp, every season, it's quite annoying to not have them but will i live? You know what.. I think i will.

Constantly negative is a suitable term and assuming you've been a fan for a long time, you should know better than anyone that we have not had a bright past and that winning the league in '13 was like digging a hole and finding a box of gold bars. Many fans have become far too expectant. Should we be challenging for the title year in year out? Of course, but sometimes things don't go the way we want but we'll usually be challenging for most of a season unless injuries take their toll and that is something that does really need to be improved (negativity about Panthers from Mr. Positive right here) We need to spend money on bringing in more backroom staff, more physio's and doctors, strength and conditioning.. The works. Players have a habit of getting injured with us, more than anywhere else usually, dirty rivals? Perhaps, but having one physio and doctor, that we know of isn't good when we'll likely have 3 or so players needing minor treatment after each game. Ling pointed out that Corey is a victim of his own success, very much so, and the club is too. The last decade has been the most sucessful period in the clubs very iffy history, we just need to be ready for when the time comes and we don't win much for a few years, it's sport. Top teams won't be top teams forever and they all go through ups and downs. Our success has made people blind to when we get bought back down to earth.


It was more the some of the opinions and thoughts that i was classifiying as pathetic, i don't know you personally so why would i call you pathetic as a person? I just feel that people need to accept things don't always go right and that we shouldn't expect them to either. I'm prepared for 10 years without a title, it's not a nice prospect but the league is growing and becoming more and more competitive, Steelers aren't making leaps and bounds into the distance compared to the rest, they're improving but not as much as Fife, Cardiff, Manchester and over the next few years i'd expect the former and the latter to become increasingly more competitive making well over half the league as title candidates.

I defend the team when i feel it's necessary. I've not seen much positivity on here for a long time, even when we sign players someone will have to bring negativity to the news. I love hockey, i love the team.. Do i like seeing so much hate and disapproval on a constant basis? Absolutely not. It'll never amount to anything but increasing your own blood pressure.

I just hope you and anyone else doesn't read anything i've put in an aggressive way, sure i have some strong opinions and make some strong statements but i sit here as calm as a cat on your lap. We all have opinions, i make a lot of counter opinions in an attempt to see if people can perhaps calm down a little, but it is frustrating.

[PantherB]

Aug 19, 2016 10:25:32 GMT Pies said:

Aug 19, 2016 10:02:36 GMT PantherB said:

The players' jerseys are here, socks too. IceLocker have been given a handful of replicas so people can try them on and look at them.

They won't post a full picture because they want a big crowd for Braehead and if people are going to the game, they'll take a look, then others who aren't going to the game might nip down for a look and decide to go to the game anyway.

It's nothing sinister. Should we have them here? Probably but unless you're going on away trips, you would only get to wear it once between now and 17th September.. If we started the season with a home stand then the jerseys would be here, the schedule has allowed for Warrior/IceLocker to be organised and get them in for the first proper game without doubt.

Seeing as IceLocker have to restock stuff is it not on them to get the jerseys in? Has been in the past so as always it's yet more Panthers bashing for the sake of it. The club has much more important things to worry about than when fans will get their replica jersey.. It's not like we've got until April to buy one...

You wouldn't get to wear it just once if you're going to the away games like some of us are. It's about the pride of being able to wear your teams colours when you're representing them in the crowd. And yes you can wear old shirts but some people would rather have the new ones for the new season.

And the Panthers should worry about these things. In the summer their job is to sign players, get them over here, sort fixtures and get the fans excited for the new season. They have failed in this respect and they should be held to account.

The shirt tweets were nothing sort of a disaster and not having them in stock for a new season isn't clever. It's not like the club haven't had since last April to sort them is it?

I'd rather have a new jersey but i'm not crying about it. IceLocker are a business, they'll get more business selling them on a big home game day.

They haven't had since April either. Teams have meetings over the summer with the suppliers, see what ideas are being suggested and what deals can be made. The deal with Warrior was only agreed upon in July, i assume so anyway as that's when CH Sport started telling other teams during their meetings that we'd binned them and gone with Warrior. From there, they've got to sort out the design and which type of jersey they want.. There's all sorts of different styles and fabric technology to be looked at. I'd assume, again, that the design was only finalised around the end of July, so they've had time to get the players' jerseys and socks done and even then they only arrived a week or so ago, player jersey obviously get prioritiesed and with IceLocker getting the additional 'try on' jerseys, i'd expect them and Panthers to have come to some sort of agreement that they should wait to see how many people Pre-Order the jerseys as over recent years they've often bought too few or had too many of certain sizes.

It's likely IceLocker trying to preserve their expenditure until they're certain on how many jersey to order and have a solid idea of the excess jerseys they need to order with the Pre-Orders.

[Bagheera]

Aug 19, 2016 16:16:33 GMT Yotes said:

Yes they have told us that. They've said there'll be jerseys to try on at this thing on Saturday morning.

My problem with this bit isn't that they're having an "event" to launch the things, but more that we get the "big news at 3, stay tuned!" stuff, when there isn't any big news, just a delay until Saturday. Then they bungle it as usual, the information isn't clear so people have to go looking for answers.

Manchester have been mentioned, a club who have existed in their current form for just over a year now. Look at their website and communication with their fans, we're not even close. They get fairly regular messages from the GM, we get the club spokeswoman telling us good seats are still available.

It's death by a thousand cuts with Panthers, they're often not big things when taken on their own, but there's tons of them and they don't need to happen.

Exactly this.

I actually think the idea of launching the Jersey the same date as a pre season game is quite a good idea. It's almost a whole month before the first home league game. Therefor the date it's being released is not a problem.

The problem is how they handled it in terms of communication to the fans. All they needed to do was start building it up a month or so ago.

"The new jerseys will be unveiled 20th August. Get down to the arena take a look at our fabulous new designs and get your pre orders in and have yours ready for the new season." - Not nesseserally the best off the top of my head but you get the point. Then follow it with Website & Social Media reminders.

As for PantherB saying you've got until April to buy one. Seriously. Most people want to wear the jersey for the current season. Not get it in April for it to be out of date for the following season. I get some will buy at the end and wear older Jersey to games, but most people want it for the current season.

I've never bought a new Jersey in 17/18 years but I can still see why people would be pretty peaved at the way it's been handled.

[jdizpt8]

bottom line is that GM is about as up to date as the shirt panthers wore in the B&H cup. as for not showing the new shirt or having a launch night with some of the players he's missed another trick. But hey we all turn up in our thousands wallets at the ready to buy tickets, programmes, shirts, hats, 50/50 tickets so why should GM change anything whilst we're all so willing to part with our cash. the clubs been stagnant on the media front for year, everything has a whiff of 'if we must' to it. i'll continue to go and watch games regardless because im a fan of the team and love the game. just wish NB and GM had our passion and didn't just want our pennies.

[iginla]

Aug 19, 2016 17:48:29 GMT PantherB said:

Aug 19, 2016 10:25:32 GMT Pies said:

You wouldn't get to wear it just once if you're going to the away games like some of us are. It's about the pride of being able to wear your teams colours when you're representing them in the crowd. And yes you can wear old shirts but some people would rather have the new ones for the new season.

And the Panthers should worry about these things. In the summer their job is to sign players, get them over here, sort fixtures and get the fans excited for the new season. They have failed in this respect and they should be held to account.

The shirt tweets were nothing sort of a disaster and not having them in stock for a new season isn't clever. It's not like the club haven't had since last April to sort them is it?

I'd rather have a new jersey but i'm not crying about it. IceLocker are a business, they'll get more business selling them on a big home game day.

They haven't had since April either. Teams have meetings over the summer with the suppliers, see what ideas are being suggested and what deals can be made. The deal with Warrior was only agreed upon in July, i assume so anyway as that's when CH Sport started telling other teams during their meetings that we'd binned them and gone with Warrior. From there, they've got to sort out the design and which type of jersey they want.. There's all sorts of different styles and fabric technology to be looked at. I'd assume, again, that the design was only finalised around the end of July, so they've had time to get the players' jerseys and socks done and even then they only arrived a week or so ago, player jersey obviously get prioritiesed and with IceLocker getting the additional 'try on' jerseys, i'd expect them and Panthers to have come to some sort of agreement that they should wait to see how many people Pre-Order the jerseys as over recent years they've often bought too few or had too many of certain sizes.

It's likely IceLocker trying to preserve their expenditure until they're certain on how many jersey to order and have a solid idea of the excess jerseys they need to order with the Pre-Orders.

So let me get this right.....you're blaming shortage of time ?

Corey does the recruitment.
Sarah sorts the paperwork side.
Mr Black and others do the season ticket stuff.
Nicola and Simon take care of sponsorship and schools.
Michelle flits about doing bits n bobs.
Callum does social media stuff.


So.....what exactly has Gary Moran been doing all summer !

[Ghost]

Aug 19, 2016 19:51:34 GMT iginla said:

Aug 19, 2016 17:48:29 GMT PantherB said:

I'd rather have a new jersey but i'm not crying about it. IceLocker are a business, they'll get more business selling them on a big home game day.

They haven't had since April either. Teams have meetings over the summer with the suppliers, see what ideas are being suggested and what deals can be made. The deal with Warrior was only agreed upon in July, i assume so anyway as that's when CH Sport started telling other teams during their meetings that we'd binned them and gone with Warrior. From there, they've got to sort out the design and which type of jersey they want.. There's all sorts of different styles and fabric technology to be looked at. I'd assume, again, that the design was only finalised around the end of July, so they've had time to get the players' jerseys and socks done and even then they only arrived a week or so ago, player jersey obviously get prioritiesed and with IceLocker getting the additional 'try on' jerseys, i'd expect them and Panthers to have come to some sort of agreement that they should wait to see how many people Pre-Order the jerseys as over recent years they've often bought too few or had too many of certain sizes.

It's likely IceLocker trying to preserve their expenditure until they're certain on how many jersey to order and have a solid idea of the excess jerseys they need to order with the Pre-Orders.

So let me get this right.....you're blaming shortage of time ?

Corey does the recruitment.
Sarah sorts the paperwork side.
Mr Black and others do the season ticket stuff.
Nicola and Simon take care of sponsorship and schools.
Michelle flits about doing bits n bobs.
Callum does social media stuff.


So.....what exactly has Gary Moran been doing all summer !

Are you the office PA or something?

[iginla]

No.....the irritating fly on the wall !