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Post by ted logan on Mar 6, 2014 9:20:46 GMT
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Post by tessier26 on Mar 6, 2014 10:43:15 GMT
I don't blame him with regard to Dean Smith. Poor reffing skills and seems to enjoy the spotlight a bit too much instead of concentrating on the job. Also think he calls the man rather than the game and not just with Henley!
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Post by ted logan on Mar 6, 2014 11:04:09 GMT
Henley has suffered some rough calls and I would agree that sometimes it seems to be the man and not the actual offence that gets called. One against Coventry a few games back was ridiculous. Henley skated into the Blaze zone, a d man tried to hit him and bounced off, landing horizontal on the ice. Smith called 2 minutes for roughing.
Lepine suffered the same a few seasons back. Henley seems to be his own worst enemy at times though with his reaction to bad calls whereas Lepine just shrugged it off.
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Post by Yotes on Mar 6, 2014 11:09:51 GMT
Smith gave him a single 2 minute minor on Tuesday, just the one, for a call that even our fans on the game thread were disagreeing with each other over. He then talked his way to the extra 20 PIMS.
Looking at his stats, there are 7 games where he's received over 10 PIMS: 25 - Cowan 29 - Hicks 10 - Wilson 25 - Hicks 21 - Hicks 37 - Smith 22 - Smith
So he's either blaming Hicks or Smith, you'd think Smith because Hicks is always the ref at Nottingham so hardly counts as a minority of the games. The 37 included the spearing call, which our fans agreed with generally. I struggle to see this vendetta in action.
I like Henley, everyone likes the tough guy, but his brain doesn't keep up with his fists.
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Post by ted logan on Mar 6, 2014 11:22:48 GMT
Smith gave him a single 2 minute minor on Tuesday, just the one, for a call that even our fans on the game thread were disagreeing with each other over. He then talked his way to the extra 20 PIMS. Looking at his stats, there are 7 games where he's received over 10 PIMS: 25 - Cowan 29 - Hicks 10 - Wilson 25 - Hicks 21 - Hicks 37 - Smith 22 - Smith So he's either blaming Hicks or Smith, you'd think Smith because Hicks is always the ref at Nottingham so hardly counts as a minority of the games. The 37 included the spearing call, which our fans agreed with generally. I struggle to see this vendetta in action. I like Henley, everyone likes the tough guy, but his brain doesn't keep up with his fists. Interesting stats there Yotes. The extra 20 minutes at the end of the Cardiff game were a bit silly and unnecessary; even if his 'blind man' impression was mildy amusing. If he'd mouthed off in the heat of the moment (after the cross checking call) then you could maybe understand it a bit more. To wait unitl the end of the game - a game we'd won - was a tad silly. I'm with you and I do like Henley but he needs to read the Gui Lepine handbook on how to keep your cool though.
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Post by andrew1972 on Mar 6, 2014 11:58:56 GMT
Some say this league doesn't have enough characters.
I for one hope he stays in the league.
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Post by panthertom93 on Mar 6, 2014 12:00:38 GMT
Dean Smith reffed that game on Tuesday really well considering he spent half the game being a linesman too.
Henley would make a top d-man enforcer if he could keep his cool more often.
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Post by ted logan on Mar 6, 2014 12:14:45 GMT
Some say this league doesn't have enough characters. I for one hope he stays in the league. Spot on - totally agree. As would most fans I expect? Unfortunately, the EIHL may see things differently . You only have to look at the type of player that has walked/been forced out this season - Conboy, Suderman, Harvey etc. Dean Smith reffed that game on Tuesday really well considering he spent half the game being a linesman too. Based on what I've seen this season, i would take Smith over Hicks and Darnell any day of the week.
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Post by Bolts on Mar 6, 2014 14:02:14 GMT
I agree about smith over hicks and Darnell.
Is there a reffing trainee programme in the uk? To train new refs?
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Post by Invincible on Mar 6, 2014 14:23:49 GMT
There was an incident in the first period that enraged Henley involving Markus Rama.
It appeared Henley also thought Smith had seen the incident and did nothing about it which would explain the "Blind man in Charge" impression during handshakes.
Calling penalties should work both ways regardless of Henley being a big bad enforcer but how many times do we actually see the referees 'protecting' the bigger guys against slashing,hooking cross checking calls from the sneeky so called skill players ie Ginand.
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Post by tessier26 on Mar 6, 2014 15:20:14 GMT
Dean Smith reffed that game on Tuesday really well considering he spent half the game being a linesman too. Henley would make a top d-man enforcer if he could keep his cool more often. Thats just part of Henley's character, he's the same sort of player as Salters. I always notice that refs seem to like calling the big guys who don't take any rubbish off anyone and sometimes the stand out skilled guys
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Post by panthertom93 on Mar 6, 2014 16:53:37 GMT
There was an incident in the first period that enraged Henley involving Markus Rama. It appeared Henley also thought Smith had seen the incident and did nothing about it which would explain the "Blind man in Charge" impression during handshakes. Calling penalties should work both ways regardless of Henley being a big bad enforcer but how many times do we actually see the referees 'protecting' the bigger guys against slashing,hooking cross checking calls from the sneeky so called skill players ie Ginand. I honestly thought Henley was going to fly over the Cardiff bench and beat the hell out of him. Oh how I miss Alex Penner
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Post by claretgiant on Mar 6, 2014 16:54:48 GMT
he has made a rod for his own back on many occasions, and abuse of an official is a very selfish penalty for anyone to take. this article will not do him any favours at all, and looking at the list Yotes put up his complaint really doesn't hold water.
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Post by Yotes on Mar 6, 2014 16:56:47 GMT
Salters has taken 110 PIM in 51 games, Henley has 212 in 30. Salters clearly has the self control that Henley lacks.
Of the 59 PIM Smith has recently dished out to him, 30 came straight from Brent's mouth, 25 came from him spearing Tanaka at a faceoff (guilty, by most accounts) and just 4 came from in-play penalties, 1 minor per game. Getting a single minor penalty per game would seem a fair return for a defenceman of his size I would think?
If Henley can't see that the issue is between his ears and his lack of a pressure release valve, then he might as well jack it in and go home quite frankly. The refs are what they are, they're not much use for any of the players, but other players aren't blowing a gasket every time they're on the end of a duff call.
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Post by ted logan on Mar 6, 2014 17:12:04 GMT
Salters has taken 110 PIM in 51 games, Henley has 212 in 30. Salters clearly has the self control that Henley lacks. Of the 59 PIM Smith has recently dished out to him, 30 came straight from Brent's mouth, 25 came from him spearing Tanaka at a faceoff (guilty, by most accounts) and just 4 came from in-play penalties, 1 minor per game. Getting a single minor penalty per game would seem a fair return for a defenceman of his size I would think? If Henley can't see that the issue is between his ears and his lack of a pressure release valve, then he might as well jack it in and go home quite frankly. The refs are what they are, they're not much use for any of the players, but other players aren't blowing a gasket every time they're on the end of a duff call. I really like the guy and would love to see him back next season but he's got to cut out the dumb-ass lack of self discipline penalties where he just time and again presses the self destruct button. He's not exactly a young player though so you have to think that it's a kind of ingrained behaviour that he can't rid himself of which is a shame.
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Post by spik on Mar 6, 2014 18:14:11 GMT
Hicks is apparently controlling most ofPanthers home games thus not a minor of Henlys games but what of all games including those away which might bring him back into contention?
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Post by pantherdman on Mar 6, 2014 19:17:06 GMT
Salters has completely changed his game, no more massive checks. Henley has already changed his game, but he can't change his size. He'll just be another in a long line of box office players driven out of the league.
How many players have missed games due to an injury inflicted by Henley? Not many.
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Post by dreadface on Mar 6, 2014 19:41:29 GMT
Salters has completely changed his game, no more massive checks. Henley has already changed his game, but he can't change his size. He'll just be another in a long line of box office players driven out of the league. How many players have missed games due to an injury inflicted by Henley? Not many. Spencers had to throw out a few pairs of boxer shorts.
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Post by Yotes on Mar 6, 2014 19:43:41 GMT
Don't remember Salts being penalised for his hitting particularly? If it's dropped off it's probably more down to his spell out injured.
If Henley was getting his misconducts for hits that'd be fine, he might even have a point in the article, but he's not. He got 2 minutes for what might've been a bad call, hardly a unique experience for the EIHL.
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Post by Shaggy on Mar 6, 2014 19:58:10 GMT
Oh dear oh dear.
I'm with Yotes on this one... if Henley would only engage his brain a bit more, he'd be a top player that I'd want back without hesitation. As it is, he makes himself into something approaching a liability. Which is a real pity, because he really can make a major contribution when he keeps his temper.
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Post by Spoonerdudes on Mar 6, 2014 20:01:29 GMT
One player a season gets picked up on thing for the name on the shirt....
Last year Olson was getting it......Difference is...a lot of these pens that he's complaining about are due to him mouthing off at the stripeys....thats never going to end well...If Carson was still reffing he'd have more !
You Fans have been commenting on him mouthing off at the officials.....
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Post by pantherdman on Mar 6, 2014 20:56:28 GMT
The frustration is, the refs miss the first cheap shot, then punish the retaliation.
Anyone see O offering all the devils at the period break when they were skating down the tunnel?
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Post by davidspence on Mar 6, 2014 22:56:51 GMT
Whining on the ice has transferred to whining to the media... embarrassing.
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Post by Shorty on Mar 6, 2014 23:32:01 GMT
Perhaps a bit of clever use of the media by Panthers. Everyone will be watching the officials and Henley more now, and they may feel pressure not to call him as often.
If this is the case, I think they have done it earlier than they should have, but will be interesting to see for those still going.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Mar 7, 2014 7:47:31 GMT
A clever use of Henley by the Panthers would be more sensible and to ask him to keep his mouth shut. Pointless moaning and whining about injuries and not having a 4 import D when you have one continually getting himself bans.
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