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Post by longjohn33 on Apr 9, 2013 10:11:24 GMT
Well if steelers thought matsos was boring hockey , wait till big doug gets in there hahaha. Tony smith has gambled massively and it seems all wasnt well at belfast or is it that he was told he would have a smaller budget next season and sheffield has a bigger one , at the end of the day a coach wouldnt take on the job if he couldnt be cpompetative budget wise. I think a few belfast players and fans will be weed off right now but proves theres no loyalty in hockey. I say again tony smith is a good business man and will make alot of money out of the steelers organisation , but he hasnt a clue how to run a hockey club and treat its players and staff , hence why they will fail again and again unless he changes Oh and here's Henry Mk2 Both banned on Steeltalk. Wonder why that was longjohn ?? i think you will find the majority of people banned from steeltalk all made there opinion about the owner and guess what there banned , suprise suprise. Steeltalk is an absolute joke simple. But you keep thinking the sun shines out of tonys backside
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Post by longjohn33 on Apr 9, 2013 10:12:42 GMT
Oh and here's Henry Mk2 Both banned on Steeltalk. Wonder why that was longjohn ?? Ah, Long John. How is this working for you? LOLZZZZZ. Yes i did say he was lazy and so did some of your fans in the first 2 months of the season along with bruce grahem , but hey look what happened . well done thats all i say .
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Post by longjohn33 on Apr 9, 2013 10:15:23 GMT
He ll be given no bigger budget than the one he had in belfast where as thoese teams always looked expensive. This move may work out but does seem a tad rushed into The budget will be the same as this year , however i bet belfasts budget will be smaller this year , hence why he moved . A true test of a coach is managing a team on a small budget , corey has done it , adams has done it , thompson has done it and i say finnerty did it in his first season. doug hasnt really had a small budget although 1 major trophy in 3 seasons is that a fair return .
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Post by Dan on Apr 9, 2013 11:00:58 GMT
I can't believe that they averaged 4,700 this year. Nope.
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Post by grumpy on Apr 9, 2013 11:02:28 GMT
I would say a perfect match for The Steelers and I expect them to be our main rivals next season. His teams are always hard working, organized and disciplined and play to a clear plan. Not always pretty to watch, but effective-and that is Steelers way. Let`s not forget that he ran us very close in both league and playoffs this season despite having a less talented squad. I wouldn`t ;like to see Panthers play his style of hockey but I`m sure he will give us a run for our money.
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Post by Mark on Apr 9, 2013 11:25:20 GMT
I see Doom over on steeltalk seems to think this is the best appointment since ... well whenever ... best coach in the EIHL blah blah . Giants fans (even though i don t pay much attention to whatever they say ) weren t keen on him with some of his tactics . Poor powerplays etc etc . boring dump and chase , sounds like Matsos Mk11 Alway thought Doom was given too much credit for his opinions. He's as biased as the next fan. Appears to be reasonable but is actually far from it. Glad we haven't got the EIHL 's best coach, remind me, what did he win this season?
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Post by jester on Apr 9, 2013 11:29:21 GMT
If they were gurning about Matsos wait till the watch the teams DC puts out
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Post by Lord of the Rinks on Apr 9, 2013 11:56:20 GMT
I hope he brings Mr D Lloyd with him, would love to see him get splattered in a Steelers shirt. But that would only happen if we can catch him before he goes in the penalty box or to the bench.
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Post by marksteeler on Apr 9, 2013 12:10:23 GMT
Oh and here's Henry Mk2 Both banned on Steeltalk. Wonder why that was longjohn ?? i think you will find the majority of people banned from steeltalk all made there opinion about the owner and guess what there banned , suprise suprise. Steeltalk is an absolute joke simple. But you keep thinking the sun shines out of tonys backside But every one knows that your just bitter henry, John oh sorry I mean Thomas merriman. You and your family used to think the sun shined out of bob p backside. Your dad was good friends with finnerty that's why you backed him despite the poor recruitment lack of plan a lack of discipline. He's obviously told your family things some are totally incorrect some are halfway between the truth and what's happened. I think this is a rushed appointment though.
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Post by d on Apr 9, 2013 12:10:50 GMT
He ll be given no bigger budget than the one he had in belfast where as thoese teams always looked expensive. This move may work out but does seem a tad rushed into The budget will be the same as this year , however i bet belfasts budget will be smaller this year , hence why he moved . A true test of a coach is managing a team on a small budget , corey has done it , adams has done it , thompson has done it and i say finnerty did it in his first season. doug hasnt really had a small budget although 1 major trophy in 3 seasons is that a fair return . Doug hasnt had a small budget? Didn't he coach Edinburgh? Didn't he also get them playoff qualification with that?
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Post by Shaggy on Apr 9, 2013 12:21:37 GMT
This is directed towards the Steelers fans posting in this thread:-
It appears that some of you - on both sides of the argument - have nothing to offer but unsubstantiated claims, personal attacks and general bad attitudes. You are welcome here to debate and discuss (may I suggest that you locate a dictionary and find out what those words actually mean?) but not to drag the thread down into your own little mire. Kindly take your personal feuds elsewhere. And if you've been banned from Steeltalk - tough. Start up your own forum or something.
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Post by longjohn33 on Apr 9, 2013 12:22:29 GMT
i think you will find the majority of people banned from steeltalk all made there opinion about the owner and guess what there banned , suprise suprise. Steeltalk is an absolute joke simple. But you keep thinking the sun shines out of tonys backside But every one knows that your just bitter henry, John oh sorry I mean Thomas merriman. You and your family used to think the sun shined out of bob p backside. Your dad was good friends with finnerty that's why you backed him despite the poor recruitment lack of plan a lack of discipline. He's obviously told your family things some are totally incorrect some are halfway between the truth and what's happened. I think this is a rushed appointment though. I think you have the wrong guy , i am none of them im afraid and dont even know who they are ? is that the same players finnerty recruited that most on steeltalk want back ? is that a lack of a plan that got us to a final oh right let me guess we are steelers we should be doing better blah blah blah .
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Post by gump on Apr 9, 2013 12:30:35 GMT
This appointment is a gamble given the expectations of the fans. It will be interesting to see if the Giants take a measured approach to a new coach or sign up someone early. Their GM was and remains the main recruiter so they may take their time with a coach while sorting out their off ice issues.
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Post by jester on Apr 9, 2013 12:32:06 GMT
And for me personally, the opportunity to go to Sheffield with a massive budget and an organisation that is hungry to win that title next year was something that I wanted to make sure that I was a part of."
"The one thing that I know is that the Belfast Giants are going to be healthy, they're going to be strong, they're going to come back - probably bigger and stronger than ever," he said.
There you go, taken from DC's interview
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2013 12:32:41 GMT
I see Doom over on steeltalk seems to think this is the best appointment since ... well whenever ... best coach in the EIHL blah blah . Giants fans (even though i don t pay much attention to whatever they say ) weren t keen on him with some of his tactics . Poor powerplays etc etc . boring dump and chase , sounds like Matsos Mk11 Alway thought Doom was given too much credit for his opinions. He's as biased as the next fan. Appears to be reasonable but is actually far from it. Glad we haven't got the EIHL 's best coach, remind me, what did he win this season? It's all a front mate to make him out to be knowledgable Mark
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Post by NickThePanther44 on Apr 9, 2013 14:20:58 GMT
Oh come on guys, Steeler fan happy with new coach shocker. Hardly a war crime is it?
In the years I've been on here Doom has contributed more reasoned debate and opinion than a considerable amount of our own lot.
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Post by asbo26 on Apr 9, 2013 14:35:27 GMT
Lloyd won't come without his bum-boy minder Keefe, he wouldn't come on the ice. Unless that hard man Fatahead is his new minder.
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Post by Cardarelli27 on Apr 9, 2013 14:48:52 GMT
Not overly fussed about this appointment. We have the best coach in the league and long may it continue, it is an upgrade from Finnerty. I can see Sheffield inheriting a lot of the Belfast team from this season which will make for a good 2013 - 2014 series.
As for Lloyd, he has done more turtling than Raphael, Michaelangelo, Donatello & Leonardo put together. If he goes there I want to see a few of his teeth on our ice in the first series game of the season.
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Post by Heanor Lair on Apr 9, 2013 15:32:18 GMT
I can't believe that they averaged 4,700 this year. Nope. Thats an interesting figure. They played quite a few games out of ice Shuff (not all sold out) , so they would have to have some pretty big crowds at the Tin Shed to average out at 4700. To my recollection apart from when we rolled into town, and the occasional game against a team in the same conference, those big crowds simply were not there. When they bothered to publish attendances it was regularly below 4000, so we can only presume that the free tickets they throw around like confetti had a role to play. But as Gary Moran has said in the past you can give out as many free tickest as you want, it doesnt help the bottom line financial viabillity of a club. HL
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Post by Doom on Apr 9, 2013 15:49:19 GMT
I see Doom over on steeltalk seems to think this is the best appointment since ... well whenever ... best coach in the EIHL blah blah . Giants fans (even though i don t pay much attention to whatever they say ) weren t keen on him with some of his tactics . Poor powerplays etc etc . boring dump and chase , sounds like Matsos Mk11 I'm very pleased with this appointment Pidge, because I've always been a big fan of TC since his days at Edinburgh. I was hoping we'd sign him before he went to Belfast. I've heard him on Steelers Hockey a few times and he's always impressed me. I never really wanted Finner, so for me this is a big upgrade. I'd agree that he's probably not going to play a particularly expansive style of hockey and that might not go down well with some folks here in Shuff, but for me he's the closest I've seen to a Blaiser type coach (my personal favourite). Regarding him only winning one title to date, that doesn't particularly worry me. The season we won the league under Ben Simon I thought Belfast were head and shoulders the best team in the league, but fell just short due to horrendous injury problems (something I believe you've generally avoided this season - It does help). Is he the best coach in the league? - Time will obviously tell. You've had a superb season this year, but how much of that is down to Corey and how much credit does Strachan get? Regards Doom
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Post by Doom on Apr 9, 2013 15:50:17 GMT
I can't believe that they averaged 4,700 this year. Nope. Thats an interesting figure. They played quite a few games out of ice Shuff (not all sold out) , so they would have to have some pretty big crowds at the Tin Shed to average out at 4700. To my recollection apart from when we rolled into town, and the occasional game against a team in the same conference, those big crowds simply were not there. When they bothered to publish attendances it was regularly below 4000, so we can only presume that the free tickets they throw around like confetti had a role to play. But as Gary Moran has said in the past you can give out as many free tickest as you want, it doesnt help the bottom line financial viabillity of a club. HL That average is for the Arena only and I believe it includes quite a few ticket deals. Regards Doom
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Post by andrew1972 on Apr 9, 2013 15:59:38 GMT
Thats an interesting figure. They played quite a few games out of ice Shuff (not all sold out) , so they would have to have some pretty big crowds at the Tin Shed to average out at 4700. To my recollection apart from when we rolled into town, and the occasional game against a team in the same conference, those big crowds simply were not there. When they bothered to publish attendances it was regularly below 4000, so we can only presume that the free tickets they throw around like confetti had a role to play. But as Gary Moran has said in the past you can give out as many free tickest as you want, it doesnt help the bottom line financial viabillity of a club. HL That average is for the Arena only and I believe it includes quite a few ticket deals. Regards Doom Correct Doom. It is Arena only and does include the ticket deals. But ultimately that average is 1200 higher than 2 years ago. Sadly we'll never get to see how many "free" tickets are included but it's clear the crowds have gone up and the club is a far more stable financial position than for a long while.
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Post by andrew1972 on Apr 9, 2013 16:04:02 GMT
This is directed towards the Steelers fans posting in this thread:- It appears that some of you - on both sides of the argument - have nothing to offer but unsubstantiated claims, personal attacks and general bad attitudes. You are welcome here to debate and discuss (may I suggest that you locate a dictionary and find out what those words actually mean?) but not to drag the thread down into your own little mire. Kindly take your personal feuds elsewhere. And if you've been banned from Steeltalk - tough. Start up your own forum or something. I'm sorry but there has been a number of users banned on Steeltalk recently all using the same posting style and same IP addresses as each other. There only posts were to criticise a supposed lack of support to Finnerty from the management. This is the reason the said users were banned. Now we have a very similar group of supposed Steelers fans posting the same unsubstantiated clap trap that they used to post on Steeltalk. It doesn't take Einstein to work things out. Go figure.
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Post by oldman on Apr 9, 2013 16:22:38 GMT
it doesn't take Einstein to know we dont care about steeltalk take your feud elsewhere, i may even be banned in there not sure i never go in it these days! Even to have a laugh! Now Doug to the Steelers, could be funny that one after the two weeks honeymoon period is over edit watching IPL and typing
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Post by Rob #12 on Apr 9, 2013 16:27:56 GMT
This is directed towards the Steelers fans posting in this thread:- It appears that some of you - on both sides of the argument - have nothing to offer but unsubstantiated claims, personal attacks and general bad attitudes. You are welcome here to debate and discuss (may I suggest that you locate a dictionary and find out what those words actually mean?) but not to drag the thread down into your own little mire. Kindly take your personal feuds elsewhere. And if you've been banned from Steeltalk - tough. Start up your own forum or something. I'm sorry but there has been a number of users banned on Steeltalk recently all using the same posting style and same IP addresses as each other. There only posts were to criticise a supposed lack of support to Finnerty from the management. This is the reason the said users were banned. Now we have a very similar group of supposed Steelers fans posting the same unsubstantiated clap trap that they used to post on Steeltalk. It doesn't take Einstein to work things out. Go figure. You only have to sneeze on there against management and you get banned. They don't call it stalintalk for no reason. That forum is a joke and lost all credibility years ago....
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