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Post by gump on Apr 9, 2013 2:41:41 GMT
Little surprised by this and the fact it is being announced with no confirmation from Belfast that he resigned or was not renewed. He has some of the results that Smith wanted but he has no idea of the lack of off ice support he encounter in Sheffield compared to Belfast such as in no GM, no admin staff for housing, travel etc. Wish him luck but they will not chase the Panthers next year.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2013 4:54:50 GMT
What an odd move .
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Post by Pies on Apr 9, 2013 5:00:50 GMT
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Post by Shorty on Apr 9, 2013 6:17:44 GMT
Over rated in my opinion.
Fingers crossed for Finnerty getting the Giants job.
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Post by andrew1972 on Apr 9, 2013 6:19:31 GMT
Little surprised by this and the fact it is being announced with no confirmation from Belfast that he resigned or was not renewed. He has some of the results that Smith wanted but he has no idea of the lack of off ice support he encounter in Sheffield compared to Belfast such as in no GM, no admin staff for housing, travel etc. Wish him luck but they will not chase the Panthers next year. You are Henry and I claim my prize. How's Bob Phillips these days??
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Post by andrew1972 on Apr 9, 2013 6:20:13 GMT
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Post by andrew1972 on Apr 9, 2013 6:23:10 GMT
That's interesting. We always get accused of playing boring hockey you'd think we'd be used to it by now. ;D The move doesn't surprise me. I think the Belfast problem has many more miles in it yet.
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Post by 5+game on Apr 9, 2013 6:38:16 GMT
Im more worried about what this means for belfast, with all their off ice issues at the minute.
Doug jumping ship so soon to the steelers is wierd after the seasons hes had with belfast
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Post by Shaggy on Apr 9, 2013 6:43:14 GMT
Im more worried about what this means for belfast, with all their off ice issues at the minute. Doug jumping ship so soon to the steelers is wierd after the seasons hes had with belfast Think you've hit on the most important part of this... it's not proof, of course, but it's yet another indicator that things are very very wrong in Belfast.
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Post by kgw on Apr 9, 2013 7:13:58 GMT
Little surprised by this and the fact it is being announced with no confirmation from Belfast that he resigned or was not renewed. He has some of the results that Smith wanted but he has no idea of the lack of off ice support he encounter in Sheffield compared to Belfast such as in no GM, no admin staff for housing, travel etc. Wish him luck but they will not chase the Panthers next year. I love your factual statements.
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Post by james1977 on Apr 9, 2013 7:25:13 GMT
It's quite amusing some of the comments from Belfast fans, opinioning that he moved for the 'big money' Tony Smith can chuck at him. He owns a company that makes low-rent hockey jerseys, an old pool hall and an orange millstone. How much do they think he has actually got to chuck about?
Given how much he has gone on about 'biggest budget' of late I reckon its not to huge a leap to assume he went pretty much all in and was relying heavily on those other revenue streams they've crowed about so much. With Steelers failing, once again, to secure any silverware how much is this likely to affect ticket numbers (sales, not giveaways) with this notoriously fickle fanbase and therefore funding?
I know Rhino have put their prices up recently but.....
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Post by BlogFromBlock15! on Apr 9, 2013 8:06:39 GMT
It could just be as simple as DC fancied a change.
If nothing else, it mixes things up a little as from my perspective I am going to see a new coaching face in Belfast, someone who I have not had much experience of in the 3 years I've been a season ticket holder.
Given the problems in Belfast may be far from over, I think that Smith will throw some money at the Steelers' title challenge next season as they could consider themselves our only realistic challengers. Even if DC did leave Belfast for a change, I doubt he would have moved to Sheffield unless a decent playing budget was being offered.
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Post by panthertom93 on Apr 9, 2013 8:07:31 GMT
Pretty surprised by this to be honest. With no news from Belfast previously I wonder if he had even told them he'd be going?
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Post by james1977 on Apr 9, 2013 8:20:07 GMT
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Post by Yotes on Apr 9, 2013 8:28:03 GMT
So much for the 6 week search then... Lies, damned lies, and the Steelers.
Agree with the people above, perhaps speaks more of the problems brewing in Belfast than much else, maybe this is just the first rat leaving the ship.
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Post by andrew1972 on Apr 9, 2013 8:32:06 GMT
It's quite amusing some of the comments from Belfast fans, opinioning that he moved for the 'big money' Tony Smith can chuck at him. He owns a company that makes low-rent hockey jerseys, an old pool hall and an orange millstone. How much do they think he has actually got to chuck about? Given how much he has gone on about 'biggest budget' of late I reckon its not to huge a leap to assume he went pretty much all in and was relying heavily on those other revenue streams they've crowed about so much. With Steelers failing, once again, to secure any silverware how much is this likely to affect ticket numbers (sales, not giveaways) with this notoriously fickle fanbase and therefore funding? I know Rhino have put their prices up recently but..... James, with the greatest of respect you know nothing about how much money Tony Smith has or how much money the club has to throw about. The club is as financially good as it has been in a long time. A great range of merchandise that sells well, a good 50/50 draw that brings in good revenue, full sponsorship along the boards and ice, a new screen that will drive income too and ticket sales that show an average of 4700 at the arena this season. Yes, there will be some free tickets in there but it's far less than some think. The club is going in the right direction which has to be good for the league, especially considering what's happened and continues to happen in Belfast. You need to accept that maybe there is another businessman in the league that can make a go of things financially outside of Neil Black.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2013 8:42:19 GMT
It's quite amusing some of the comments from Belfast fans, opinioning that he moved for the 'big money' Tony Smith can chuck at him. He owns a company that makes low-rent hockey jerseys, an old pool hall and an orange millstone. How much do they think he has actually got to chuck about? Given how much he has gone on about 'biggest budget' of late I reckon its not to huge a leap to assume he went pretty much all in and was relying heavily on those other revenue streams they've crowed about so much. With Steelers failing, once again, to secure any silverware how much is this likely to affect ticket numbers (sales, not giveaways) with this notoriously fickle fanbase and therefore funding? I know Rhino have put their prices up recently but..... James, with the greatest of respect you know nothing about how much money Tony Smith has or how much money the club has to throw about. The club is as financially good as it has been in a long time. A great range of merchandise that sells well, a good 50/50 draw that brings in good revenue, full sponsorship along the boards and ice, a new screen that will drive income too and ticket sales that show an average of 4700 at the arena this season. Yes, there will be some free tickets in there but it's far less than some think. The club is going in the right direction which has to be good for the league, especially considering what's happened and continues to happen in Belfast. You need to accept that maybe there is another businessman in the league that can make a go of things financially outside of Neil Black. Lets see if Mr Smith is still doing running things well in 10 years time shall we
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Post by james1977 on Apr 9, 2013 8:44:57 GMT
It's quite amusing some of the comments from Belfast fans, opinioning that he moved for the 'big money' Tony Smith can chuck at him. He owns a company that makes low-rent hockey jerseys, an old pool hall and an orange millstone. How much do they think he has actually got to chuck about? Given how much he has gone on about 'biggest budget' of late I reckon its not to huge a leap to assume he went pretty much all in and was relying heavily on those other revenue streams they've crowed about so much. With Steelers failing, once again, to secure any silverware how much is this likely to affect ticket numbers (sales, not giveaways) with this notoriously fickle fanbase and therefore funding? I know Rhino have put their prices up recently but..... James, with the greatest of respect you know nothing about how much money Tony Smith has or how much money the club has to throw about. The club is as financially good as it has been in a long time. A great range of merchandise that sells well, a good 50/50 draw that brings in good revenue, full sponsorship along the boards and ice, a new screen that will drive income too and ticket sales that show an average of 4700 at the arena this season. Yes, there will be some free tickets in there but it's far less than some think. The club is going in the right direction which has to be good for the league, especially considering what's happened and continues to happen in Belfast. You need to accept that maybe there is another businessman in the league that can make a go of things financially outside of Neil Black. I don't need to accept anything. You have no more a clue than anyone else Yes, Sheffield appear to be going in the right direction but appearances can be deceptive, as we've seen so often before.
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Post by panthersnation on Apr 9, 2013 8:51:20 GMT
wow did not see this one coming
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Post by oldman on Apr 9, 2013 8:55:20 GMT
this is a massive gamble for Doug so is it because: their ownership mess in the Giants is still a big mess and he thinks the money wont be there next season. Is it simply he is chasing a bigger salary, if so i could understand this move. Is it he wants to help a floundering club regain some former glory? Does he like watching the playoffs as a neutral? Anyway it was down to Doug however how many giants will follow him , not sure but a couple i reckon and i will still love beating them and him even more now.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2013 9:08:52 GMT
I see Doom over on steeltalk seems to think this is the best appointment since ... well whenever ... best coach in the EIHL blah blah .
Giants fans (even though i don t pay much attention to whatever they say ) weren t keen on him with some of his tactics .
Poor powerplays etc etc . boring dump and chase , sounds like Matsos Mk11
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Post by longjohn33 on Apr 9, 2013 9:09:03 GMT
Well if steelers thought matsos was boring hockey , wait till big doug gets in there hahaha. Tony smith has gambled massively and it seems all wasnt well at belfast or is it that he was told he would have a smaller budget next season and sheffield has a bigger one , at the end of the day a coach wouldnt take on the job if he couldnt be cpompetative budget wise. I think a few belfast players and fans will be swizzled off right now but proves theres no loyalty in hockey. I say again tony smith is a good business man and will make alot of money out of the steelers organisation , but he hasnt a clue how to run a hockey club and treat its players and staff , hence why they will fail again and again unless he changes
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2013 9:29:18 GMT
He ll be given no bigger budget than the one he had in belfast where as thoese teams always looked expensive. This move may work out but does seem a tad rushed into
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Post by andrew1972 on Apr 9, 2013 9:34:26 GMT
Well if steelers thought matsos was boring hockey , wait till big doug gets in there hahaha. Tony smith has gambled massively and it seems all wasnt well at belfast or is it that he was told he would have a smaller budget next season and sheffield has a bigger one , at the end of the day a coach wouldnt take on the job if he couldnt be cpompetative budget wise. I think a few belfast players and fans will be weed off right now but proves theres no loyalty in hockey. I say again tony smith is a good business man and will make alot of money out of the steelers organisation , but he hasnt a clue how to run a hockey club and treat its players and staff , hence why they will fail again and again unless he changes Oh and here's Henry Mk2 Both banned on Steeltalk. Wonder why that was longjohn ??
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Post by james1977 on Apr 9, 2013 10:03:07 GMT
Oh and here's Henry Mk2 Both banned on Steeltalk. Wonder why that was longjohn ?? Ah, Long John. How is this working for you? LOLZZZZZ.
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