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Post by GuinnessMan on May 5, 2012 9:09:27 GMT
pinching jesters post off the inferno .... Nothing solid yet but allegedly:
Panthers voted against the changes,
Some of the rumours are:
Reduction in import levels. Dual nationals dont count as imports EU players dont count as imports 2 brits on the ice at al times(includes NM) no extra imports allowed to be signed(only if a player leaves or is gassed or injured for season) Change to p/o format
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Post by panthersdave on May 5, 2012 9:33:17 GMT
pinching jesters post off the inferno .... Nothing solid yet but allegedly: Panthers voted against the changes, Some of the rumours are: Reduction in import levels. Dual nationals dont count as imports EU players dont count as imports 2 brits on the ice at al times(includes NM) no extra imports allowed to be signed(only if a player leaves or is gassed or injured for season) Change to p/o format Obviously this is all rumour but to change the import levels now would be unprofessional at best. Its not at all inconceivable that us and other teams may have signed nearly our whole roster, but just havent announced it yet. Changes could mean potentially having to tear up contracts and change the recruitment strategy. This is not only damaging for the player(s) concerned but also for the league as a whole in terms of reputation with import players
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Post by gcmandrake on May 5, 2012 10:04:11 GMT
Friend of mine bumped into GM the GM while getting his season ticket at the arena. Apparently the import change is simply that the poorer teams can have 11 imports because the wages of Brits is becoming so inflated, its cheaper to buy imports. Without the change, the poorer teams simply wouldn't be able to field enough players.
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Post by GuinnessMan on May 5, 2012 10:11:42 GMT
... that sounds a change for the better, on the face of it.
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Post by kezypanther on May 5, 2012 10:12:02 GMT
Why would we appose that ? But fair enough they tried this not long ago and im sure them teams still didn't end up icing the full import limit did they ?.
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Post by PantherG on May 5, 2012 10:14:08 GMT
Friend of mine bumped into GM the GM while getting his season ticket at the arena. Apparently the import change is simply that the poorer teams can have 11 imports because the wages of Brits is becoming so inflated, its cheaper to buy imports. Without the change, the poorer teams simply wouldn't be able to field enough players. Ironically though the poorer teams were running with less than ten imports last year and the most basic of Brits. I really think that will make no difference, as some will probably play the season with 8-9. Wonder if Sheffield will plead poverty to get in an extra import Weird that they are not producing information from this meeting after stating they would be announcing exciting changes for this coming season.
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Post by dreadface on May 5, 2012 11:37:42 GMT
I would doubt they would announce any changes straight after a board meeting, any changes would need to be thoroughly thought out and planned and not just knee jerk reactions...oh sorry I forgot this was the EIHL.
What I meant was they need time to write the media spin for the changes.
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Post by dreadface on May 5, 2012 11:55:32 GMT
Could it be a change to the scoring system? 3 points for a win, 2 points for a win in OT and 1 point loss in OT? Seems a much fairer system and could really shake up the league as well as pushing teams for the win.
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Post by clanfandouglas on May 5, 2012 12:23:25 GMT
Could it be a change to the scoring system? 3 points for a win, 2 points for a win in OT and 1 point loss in OT? Seems a much fairer system and could really shake up the league as well as pushing teams for the win. I like this point system you said. Was in the worlds recently, and makes the teams really going for the regulation win. As for the imports would happily take a extra import at Braehead.
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Post by ripleypanthergirl on May 5, 2012 12:50:00 GMT
Maybe they're writing the rulebook?
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Post by clanfandouglas on May 5, 2012 13:02:54 GMT
Can we all get a download copy then
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Post by focus12 on May 5, 2012 13:05:16 GMT
Maybe they're writing the rulebook? You mean they can write? ;D
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Post by Stargazer on May 5, 2012 13:30:44 GMT
Friend of mine bumped into GM the GM while getting his season ticket at the arena. Apparently the import change is simply that the poorer teams can have 11 imports because the wages of Brits is becoming so inflated, its cheaper to buy imports. Without the change, the poorer teams simply wouldn't be able to field enough players. Doesn't seem like a bad idea. I don't see why the Blacks are so against this. Unless its from a Braehead point of view at not a Panthers one.
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Post by panthers4ever on May 5, 2012 14:46:36 GMT
for fudges sake
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Post by Panthers_44 on May 5, 2012 15:00:45 GMT
Friend of mine bumped into GM the GM while getting his season ticket at the arena. Apparently the import change is simply that the poorer teams can have 11 imports because the wages of Brits is becoming so inflated, its cheaper to buy imports. Without the change, the poorer teams simply wouldn't be able to field enough players. Doesn't seem like a bad idea. I don't see why the Blacks are so against this. Unless its from a Braehead point of view at not a Panthers one. If this is what they are against I can't say i'm too suprised, the league tried something similar back in 2010-2011 which fell flat on its face in the end causing one or two problems for some teams.
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Post by pantherdman on May 5, 2012 16:41:31 GMT
Beer league, they change what they want when they want, they don't have a rule book so there are no rules and regs. The league is run by the owners, so all they care about is making as much money for as little out lay as possible. Hell, some can't even manage this without going bust every season.
I just think of its wwe on ice, just go with it and enjoy it as much as you can. Sports entertainment.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on May 5, 2012 16:43:10 GMT
Beer league, they change what they want when they want, they don't have a rule book so there are no rules and regs. The league is run by the owners, so all they care about is making as much money for as little out lay as possible. Hell, some can't even manage this without going bust every season. I just think of its wwe on ice, just go with it and enjoy it as much as you can. Sports entertainment. 100% true.
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Post by LUFC on May 5, 2012 16:51:14 GMT
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Post by dp on May 5, 2012 18:30:15 GMT
As long as people like Simms are involved in this game and attending board meetings (I thought he was just the Steelers "Press Officer" or something?), the sport will continue to limp along from season to season like it is at the moment. Unfortunately the whole sport is so cliquey, with Simms right in the thick of it, that we're stuffed.
It's like it or lump it, but unfortunately lumping it means no hockey which means I've actually got no choice but to just accept it.
So sad.
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Post by kezypanther on May 5, 2012 18:38:35 GMT
I think its quite pathetic that Simms attended the meeting. It should only be GMs or Owners of the teams who go. Shows what a mess the league is in. Its like a bunch of friends meeting up to come up with ideas.
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Post by Shaggy on May 5, 2012 18:46:21 GMT
Hang on a minute... isn't this whole Simms thing a bit OTT? I mean - I have very little time for the guy - reasonably decent work on Sky and for the Worlds (well, when he was part of the 'in' crowd, anyway) but apart from that I am firmly of the opinion that he should have his hands tied behind his back, his mouth bricked up and be chucked out of the sport never to return. But really - is anyone here naive enough to think that his attending a league meeting (perhaps as a proxy for Tony Smith? Proxies are often an accepted fact in such meetings, not just in British ice hockey) is going to have radically changed what happened? Or even had much effect at all? There are 10 clubs involved, after all. Come on, people... there are plenty of reasons to metaphorically clobber DS The BS (come to think of it, why bother with the metaphorically? ) but this isn't one of them. Choose your battles... if you waste your time moaning about him on something like this, you're less likely to have anyone pay attention when it comes to something that really matters. In fact, that's probably one of the reasons he's been getting away with crap for years now.
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Post by kezypanther on May 5, 2012 18:59:31 GMT
Him being there may have little effect on the outcome but it doesn't mean he should be there. I know it is quiete a petty argument but why should he be there.
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Post by Shaggy on May 5, 2012 19:07:23 GMT
Him being there may have little effect on the outcome but it doesn't mean he should be there. I know it is quiete a petty argument but why should he be there. As I said - maybe as a proxy for Tony Smith. After all, DS has been in the thick of it for years now... Tony Smith is relatively new to owning a club. Maybe he decided to send his experienced minion (with suitable instructions) to the meeting? Maybe Tony Smith was busy with something else? (planning a meeting to get all the owners there at once can't be easy). Maybe something else? - I don't know. What does it matter? In the list of things wrong with this league (hell, British ice hockey in general) this probably comes in around the bottom of page 544...
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Post by The Flying Shirt on May 5, 2012 19:10:35 GMT
You mean Simms isn't at least a "part owner"?
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Post by kezypanther on May 5, 2012 19:18:49 GMT
I know it doesnt matter much and I totally I agree its not that important. On the other hand maybe this is the reason league is not taking seriously / moving foward. All owners and all board members should be there not announcers of teams.
Btw it's not because its Simms I would be saying this to any owner that didn't go THEY SHOULD BE THERE !
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