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Post by ted on Oct 1, 2006 22:01:13 GMT
Id be straight back there with the loudest proudest bunch of fans you can find.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2006 22:03:58 GMT
I was more annoyed tonight with the MOM announcements when the announer gave Woolhouse the MOM and tried to make out it was an innocent mistake. You could see a lot of the players weren't happy. It seems like double standards when away arenas like Newcastle, Hull and to a lesser extent Sheffield try to wind up the away fans and then when Ken does the same at a Panthers home game against Newcastle he has to appologise for it.
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Post by runnerbean on Oct 1, 2006 22:05:59 GMT
Just had a text from my mate up in Hull. He said Clarke won his fight, Rees has a fight with Rizk, and now Rizk is injured. Matt Myers cost us the game by being greedy and then giving up the puck, for them to go on and score. He also said we played pretty bad. I wouldnt say Matt cost us the game, thats a bit harsh. And I dont think we played bad at all, you can't really fault their effort. Up until the middle of the 3rd, Im pretty sure every player was working their ass off, although you could see they were getting tired towards the end. But a point's a point and Im happy with that ;D
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Post by lockerbie on Oct 1, 2006 22:06:13 GMT
Im sorry you experienced that. What block were these people in? Someone said that they didnt have much knowledge of the game so Im assuming theyre not regulars, either way sorry you had to experience that as your fans were great, was amazed by how many came across. Theyre not real fans just idiots and 99% of the Stingrays fans arent like this. Thank you for your apology, Im sure their not all like it, but for a club that has a relitively small fanbase they can do you alot of damage.
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Post by heja on Oct 1, 2006 22:09:00 GMT
Thought it was a pretty good game
should of won the game in regulation IMO
but look at the positives we are still unbeaten in regulation
think we are still top of the league with a game spare
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Post by ted on Oct 1, 2006 22:10:39 GMT
not now tim, its level as belfasts game tonight was a challenge cup match
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Post by heja on Oct 1, 2006 22:14:12 GMT
oh right
basically still a game spare though being two points clear even if we even on games played
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Post by Lammy on Oct 1, 2006 22:18:01 GMT
Just as a flip side, we sat opposite the main Panthers block, in amongst the Hull fans and had a cracking time with them! Lots of laughs, bit of banter, particularly the lady who told us to "Shush" cos they weren't used to the noise! Was a good game, slip ups on both sides but Hull defo came out wanting it in the 3rd, and despite what has been said they don't look like they're going to be anyone's whipping boys. Was also impressed that despite the ticket machine breaking down, and the tills, they'd managed to get ticket slips organised (okay it easier for 1500 than 7000) so the delay to get in wasn't as bad as feared. All in all, thoroughly enjoyed it. Oh, and I don't believe that the MOM slip up was their announcer trying to wind us up, he sounded genuinely apologetic and embarrassed. If he does it again though.........
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Post by andyd on Oct 1, 2006 22:25:07 GMT
Lockerbie...when away fans say they have been abused at the NIC and the stewards have done nothing about it how do we react? Obviously we want people to appreciate that it's the minority.
I'm sorry to hear you had such a bad experience tonight but please don't swipe all the Hull fans with the same brush as that would be grossly unfair...we all have idiots.
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Post by dingdong on Oct 1, 2006 22:31:55 GMT
Over the years, have always found the Hull supporters great. The ones I mingled with and talked to to-night were their usual pleasant selves. Every team has a few who could do with ex-communication. The thing I have doubts about, is the glove hand of our netminder. It very often appears to be non existant. Moan over.
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Post by Lucy on Oct 1, 2006 22:32:43 GMT
Helen - I was told (by some of our fans sitting there) that the Hull fans opposite us on the other side of the rink were also abusive.
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Post by Mark on Oct 1, 2006 22:36:25 GMT
Enjoyed most of tonights match. Panthers played well enough but appeared to run out of steam midway through the third. An overtime loss is fair enough away from home, especially as Hull looked a half decent side. Shame about a portion of their fans behind the goal, foul mouthed, abusive and lacking class. Myself and the Panthers fans around me applauded Hull's victory, it's a shame some of the lowlifes couldn't achieve more than some childish gloating. Helen, didn't say goodnight as I was a bit pumped up when yourself and Jono left. My apologies, and goodnight.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2006 22:54:01 GMT
I thought you did say goodbye to us mate!!
Good game, we maybe should have made more of the chances that came our way but credit to Hull, they're certainly no mugs and are a good team that will cause most in the league some problems. Shame about some of the fans, especially when it's friends of yours on the receiving end of the abuse, but we were sat next to a very nice couple who were happy to talk about the game afterwards and wished us a safe journey home. Not all bad.
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Post by Shaggy on Oct 1, 2006 23:15:03 GMT
I've been to Hull several times - both with the Panthers and as a neutral - and I can say straight off that the vast majority of the Hull fans are as nice as you like. Even gobby gits like Scooby! That said, I have noticed on several occasions that there are a very small number of Hull 'fans' who are extremely abusive... it's not a one-off, I've seen it a few times. The security bods at Hull Arena appear to be a total joke... they don't seem to do a thing. But we should not IMHO tar the 99% of perfectly good Hull fans with the same brush... in my experience, Hull is a far more pleasant away location than (for example) Coventry and Belfast.
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Post by Helen B on Oct 2, 2006 6:36:35 GMT
But we should not IMHO tar the 99% of perfectly good Hull fans with the same brush... in my experience, Hull is a far more pleasant away location than (for example) Coventry and Belfast. See, I had this conversation last night, I've not yet had a bad experience in Coventry but I know people who have, same with Belfast. I will not tarnish the Hull fans with a bad rep as this is the first time I've experienced the mouthy lot, but I'll remember not to sit behind the goal next time I go on the 15th.
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Post by Shorty on Oct 2, 2006 6:43:12 GMT
Some of the language behind the goal was bad, especially when children were sitting there.
There were probably about three small groups who were abusive.
Why when your team scores do you turn around to the away fan right behind you to celebrate a goal when the person scoring it is on the ice in the opposite direction?
I'm sure they were in the minority but there really is no need for it.
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Post by twix on Oct 2, 2006 7:06:21 GMT
Re. The MOM award to Wooly thing. I believed it to be a mistake. Mainly because if you were listening closely to the SOG announcements the third period one was also given as shots on Woolhouse rather than on Lindsay. I'm not sure why/when he got confused though as I'm sure he'd said Lindsay for the first two periods!
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Post by KIGOIUK on Oct 2, 2006 7:55:15 GMT
I am sure that the woolhouse MOM award was a mistake , he also cocked up their player of the month award after most of the panther fans left .
On the subject of hull fans , I sat oposite the panther fans at the front of the hull fans block and although they where Vocal , we had no abuse during the game , and freindly chat during intervals , but when game started back to shouting for their team . NO BAD LANGAUGE .
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Post by Cooke#19 on Oct 2, 2006 8:12:36 GMT
An incident earlier on in the day, meant they may have had to put Woolly as the starting NM. This was probably written down on the team list and just wasn't changed. Assuming this is the case, Lindsay was effectively our back up tonight.
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Post by Rich on Oct 2, 2006 8:21:42 GMT
Just to say you cant really blame the loss on Matt Myers!! We gave up/ran out of steam/lost concentration third period and were made to pay. We looked clueless at times coming forward and turned the puck over no end in the third which is a shame because 1st and 2nd we were playing some good hockey
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Post by Heanor Lair on Oct 2, 2006 8:28:20 GMT
Reading the posts, there seems to be a number of positives from the game.
The most important positive is that we have had a 75% points return weekend, and with my stats head on, an average 75% (in fact an average 70%) weekend is championship winning form.
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Post by Rumpole on Oct 2, 2006 8:28:24 GMT
Think we took the foot off the pedal a bit having got the 2nd goal at the end of the 2nd. Hull came out with nothing to lose, and had a stroke of luck for their first goal. Neilson first-timed a clearance that 9 times out of 10 would have gone down the other end; this one was plucked out of the air within our zone, leaving Evan with no chance. That gave Hull the momentum and we never got it back, although we had a couple of chances to win in regulation. Looked like both sides were happy with a point in the last few minutes; we should be - remember Blaze blew a 3 goal lead here, and whilst it wasn't the prettiest hockey from the Stingrays it was effective, and I don't think too many sides will take 2 points away with them. Think it's a bit harsh to blame Matt Myers; the player who concerned me over the weekend was Mopes, who seemed to give away a lot of possession (but please don't think I'm blaming him!).
Carson's reffing? Hmmm. Perhaps it is just coincidence, but he called Simoes 21 seconds in from the start, McAslan 16 seconds in from the start of the second and Matt Myers 14 seconds in from the start of the 3rd! He must have forgotten in OT!
The Hull fans? Generally OK, but there were a few in block F who were being abusive and were well out of order, but those I was stood near were fine even if they didn't understand the instigator penalty given to Schollar.
3 out of 4 from the weekend will do me. Bring on the Giants!
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Post by newham on Oct 2, 2006 10:05:38 GMT
Some of the language behind the goal was bad, especially when children were sitting there. There were probably about three small groups who were abusive. Why when your team scores do you turn around to the away fan right behind you to celebrate a goal when the person scoring it is on the ice in the opposite direction? I'm sure they were in the minority but there really is no need for it. It's the football banter mentality creeping through. There was a guy goading the away fans at a Cov game last season, it's not right really, it just aint hockey.
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Post by lakane on Oct 2, 2006 10:24:42 GMT
let me start by saying that i,ve only been following hockey for the past couple of years (i,ve spent all my life at forest) so i,ve only just started to get to grips with it. i was at hull last night with my wife, son and his friend and have to say i encountered no problems at all. a very good following of panthers fans and i found hulls fans ok, nearly all of them gave panthers a great round of applause at the end of a very entertaining game and though losing a 2 goal lead can sometimes be seen as a sin i still got the impression the team gave their all which has'nt always been the case, this years team look to me like they care. however i must say i'm a little wound up at what i,ve read this morning about some of our fans treatment by what was obviously only a couple of hull fans. these people have to be stood up against for the good of your sport thats enjoyed by families. don't take crap stewarding as an excuse to ruin your evening. demand something is done at a higher level. i myself don't mind banter aimed at me but theres a line you dont cross. on a personal note its perhaps a good job i didn't sit behind the goal because if my wife or son had got abused trust me i,d have thrown them out myself. hound bullies out. right i think i'll have a rant on hulls board now
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Post by texpef on Oct 2, 2006 11:38:25 GMT
to be honest i moved around and spent periods in blocks A, F and at the end near the goal and all the blocks had people swearing and shouting very abusive language that in the NIC would have landed in ejection from the arena. However, i can concede that they were passionate about their team and just doing what i imagine they think is supporting their team... As for the game well we outplayed them in the 1st 2 periods imho but had little to show other than 2 goal cushion against a VERY good tender however in the 3rd after a scrappy first for the rays they grew immensely in confidence and threw everything at us resulting in a 2nd equalising goal. It seems to me that the panthers were definitely on the backfoot for this period with the rays looking a very quick passing side, not too skillful in front of goal but very quick and come then end we were lucky to hold on to a draw apart from the last 2-3 mins. In overtime we had found our feet again and there was only one team in it right to the point they had their first and only shot on our goal . Now as some have slated our nettie i cant say for definite whether any or all the goals were directly attributable to him but all seemed scrappy crowd the net and hope type goals and i expect them to be dealt with better tbh but as some have said a point away from home (even though i was hoping for two aint that bad). Just a couple of points... Why wont anyone fight shmyr? Is this his reputation? Is it shmyr wont fight? i really dont know but other teams hardmen ie rizk and voth to name but 2 will fight anyone but him??? Secondly why given the amount of powerplays we get with ZT do we not make the most of them? seems to me we score about 1 in 10 which to me is plainly not good enough especially after last night which would have turned a loss into a win, i know their nettie was superb but hey... And finally 3, how did their netminder not get their MOM, he was their best player by a country mile yet they give it some kid who imho did very little and yet they announce first ours goes to woolhouse (who didnt even play) and then second to lindsey who was at best ok especially as i thought they hull goals seemed very soft... was this just taking the mickey??? If so it shows very little class...
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