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Post by Number 9.1 on Sept 28, 2010 9:11:00 GMT
Too impatient? Depends where you start from. If you're going back to the start of September then you may have a point but some of us started running out of patience way before that; the repeated pattern of previous seasons is just reopening old wounds.
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Post by pantherdman on Sept 28, 2010 9:41:25 GMT
Yep, +1 what Number 9 said.
It's winding me up even more now that the club are lording it over the league financially.
Plough the money back into the team!
IMO we can't take the european escape pod until we've won the league.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2010 10:33:31 GMT
If we had worse record than .500 thisseason then I'd agree that we may need changes, but not after one loss in seven!
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Post by Number 9.1 on Sept 28, 2010 10:45:15 GMT
As I've said, it's not about the one bad result for me; more about the signs.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2010 10:54:23 GMT
As I've said, it's not about the one bad result for me; more about the signs. I appreciate and understand the point you are making, but this is a different team with largely different personnel and IMO it's unfair to make comparisons on that basis. |
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Post by Number 9.1 on Sept 28, 2010 11:10:45 GMT
As I've said, it's not about the one bad result for me; more about the signs. I appreciate and understand the point you are making, but this is a different team with largely different personnel and IMO it's unfair to make comparisons on that basis. I appreciate and understand that too but I'd say - names on the back of the shirts aside - that there are enough similarities to last year's team to justify the raising of old concerns. |
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Post by Mortified on Oct 6, 2010 16:03:07 GMT
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Post by Yotes on Oct 6, 2010 17:15:13 GMT
While I agree with you Jono that I don't want to see Panthers playing trap hockey and helping me with my insomnia, my problem with this argument is the idea that that's the only way to win the league (your own example of Coventry - most EIHL titles - proves that wrong), or that by possibly sacrificing a bit of gung-ho at one end of the ice it will suddenly make the hockey we see dreadful and turn everyone off the sport.
Who is it who finds seeing us concede soft goals entertaining? Why can't defending itself be seen as entertaining? I find watching a man skate in, back post, no one near him, to knock it past our current scapegoat hugely frustrating, nothing more.
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Post by pantherinmanc on Oct 6, 2010 17:22:29 GMT
While I agree with you Jono that I don't want to see Panthers playing trap hockey and helping me with my insomnia, my problem with this argument is the idea that that's the only way to win the league (your own example of Coventry - most EIHL titles - proves that wrong), or that by possibly sacrificing a bit of gung-ho at one end of the ice it will suddenly make the hockey we see dreadful and turn everyone off the sport. Who is it who finds seeing us concede soft goals entertaining? Why can't defending itself be seen as entertaining? I find watching a man skate in, back post, no one near him, to knock it past our current scapegoat hugely frustrating, nothing more. I have to agree. I don't want to see entertainment sacrificed but what we're watching is something akin to slapshot hockey played to the 'entertainment' factor rather than the scrapping factor. You could argue it's a little insulting to us as fans to be continually fed a 'brand' of hockey that dismisses one of the biggest parts of the modern game - effective defence. I don't want trap hockey, but I do want to win, I well appreciate there is a balance to be struck but I also think the abandonment of 'winning' as the aim in sport is something which is starting to define our national game in this country and not somewhere I want to see my hockey team follow suit. |
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Post by Number 9.1 on Oct 7, 2010 0:17:29 GMT
If I genuinely believed that sporting success was being sacrificed on the altar of entertainment I'd be outraged at the massive betrayal taking place. As it happens, I just think the people running the show are a bit clueless.
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Post by texpef on Oct 7, 2010 7:20:18 GMT
I cant believe the fervent Jono is actually stating he is happy that there is a distinct probability that we wont win the league, oh how times have changed...
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Post by spik on Oct 7, 2010 20:07:56 GMT
Either the X-Factor or Panthers games. It's main objective ..... rule one.Viewing figures/profit.
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Post by iginla on Oct 7, 2010 20:25:37 GMT
Yes Spik, never mind GM's fancy new Latin motto about "hate as long as they fear".
Panthers motto should be............ "spend only what you must,in order to entertain" !
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Post by Number 9.1 on Oct 7, 2010 20:26:27 GMT
Either the X-Factor or Panthers games. It's main objective ..... rule one.Viewing figures/profit. ... at the inconsequential expense of genuine musical/sporting merit, I suppose ...? |
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Post by howeaboutthat on Oct 7, 2010 22:14:03 GMT
Are you saying there is no sporting merit in the way Panthers play?
How do you define and measure sporting merit?
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Post by Number 9.1 on Oct 8, 2010 9:21:00 GMT
Are you saying there is no sporting merit in the way Panthers play? How do you define and measure sporting merit? Not by the measure of commercial success. I'm plainly not proclaiming the total absense of anything of any value in a sports sense; rather that one is traded-off against the other. |
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Post by sambo79 on Oct 8, 2010 9:28:07 GMT
Speaking of players who have good first games then go downhill: Who was the guy from a big hockey family who had a fight in his first game then spent the rest of the season going offside before signing for Sheffield and scoring tons of points on a line with Tessier? I remember Pelltier looking flashy in his first game because he had a shot from his own blue line. There are a few... |
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Post by Robbie Nud on Oct 8, 2010 11:33:02 GMT
Wasn't that Shaun Sutter?
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Post by sambo79 on Oct 8, 2010 13:21:56 GMT
Wasn't that Shaun Sutter? That's the one. Him and his silly hair. |
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Post by Robbie Nud on Oct 8, 2010 13:54:52 GMT
Yes, big hype with him being a Sutter and how well all the rest had done in the NHL. After a couple of games for us you might have been forgiven thinking that he may have been adopted  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2010 13:49:29 GMT
Is there anyone going to Braehead on Wednesday who would be prepared to text me goals and any incidents?
Please PM me if you can help.
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Post by Outlaw on Oct 10, 2010 14:53:07 GMT
Text you Jono. Got Gill to forward me all the action so I can relay it for TCW
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