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Post by Bagheera on Feb 27, 2024 18:58:19 GMT
Good luck to Mike, but it'd be interesting to know how the IIHF stuff works here, do they just ignore them in NA? Why has he been able to transfer back to a different member nation after the window has ended? IIHF transfer deadline was 15/2 wasn’t it? Maybe Robinson handed his notice in prior to that so was therefore available for transfer?! Depends if you believe Panthers press release or not. They stated he'd informed them the day before they announced it, which was a week after the deadline.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2024 19:07:46 GMT
IIHF transfer deadline was 15/2 wasn’t it? Maybe Robinson handed his notice in prior to that so was therefore available for transfer?! Depends if you believe Panthers press release or not. They stated he'd informed them the day before they announced it, which was a week after the deadline. I don't .. he more than likely worked his 2 week notice
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Post by jd on Feb 27, 2024 20:47:15 GMT
Wouldn’t they have gone and tried to get another netminder then?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2024 20:58:34 GMT
Come on when have panthers ever been proactive in making sure their is cover in every position... If Greenfield handed his notice in then you could be sure another goalie would be on his way in on the next flight..
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Post by jd on Feb 27, 2024 21:10:15 GMT
Come on when have panthers ever been proactive in making sure their is cover in every position... If Greenfield handed his notice in then you could be sure another goalie would be on his way in on the next flight.. Surely this would be reactive? Robinson leaves suddenly so the club react and get another goalie?
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Feb 27, 2024 22:19:47 GMT
He left as soon as he came off the ice after his last game
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Post by shinobi on Feb 28, 2024 11:30:21 GMT
10th February then. Kinda short notice for the team to get a replacement.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Feb 28, 2024 12:18:04 GMT
10th February then. Kinda short notice for the team to get a replacement. He was very annoyed at the end of the game. As in VERY annoyed
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Post by spik on Feb 28, 2024 12:20:51 GMT
Good luck to Mike, but it'd be interesting to know how the IIHF stuff works here, do they just ignore them in NA? Why has he been able to transfer back to a different member nation after the window has ended? IIHF transfer deadline was 15/2 wasn’t it? Maybe Robinson handed his notice in prior to that so was therefore available for transfer?! Is this when a player gives notice and not thus allowing a team to get somebody in to replace? If a player can leave this way, surely the team should be allowed to fill the gap after the deadline. Otherwise the 'notice' given should be that two weeks prior to the deadline at the latest.
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Post by Bagheera on Feb 28, 2024 12:31:03 GMT
He left as soon as he came off the ice after his last game Tell us more then. Plenty to be annoyed with that game, but interestingly it was the game where we had the import space available yet Rok didn't travel. So annoyed at what happened in front of him. He was or became unwell or injured, but Rok wasn't there to replace him. They refused to let him off as Luca was back up. Or somebody within blamed him.
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Post by Bagheera on Feb 28, 2024 12:35:19 GMT
10th February then. Kinda short notice for the team to get a replacement. Perhaps he packed his bags, booked his own flight, sodded off, then after cooling down communicated with the club. Wouldn't be the first time. To many unknowns to be sure. Either way, very short notice.
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Feb 28, 2024 12:49:14 GMT
He left as soon as he came off the ice after his last game Tell us more then. Plenty to be annoyed with that game, but interestingly it was the game where we had the import space available yet Rok didn't travel. So annoyed at what happened in front of him. He was or became unwell or injured, but Rok wasn't there to replace him. They refused to let him off as Luca was back up. Or somebody within blamed him. Mike had a similar meltdown towards the end of the Glasgow defeat on 24th Jan, KM went over to try and calm him down, and/or reassure him. so I doubt he'd get a public telling off.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Feb 28, 2024 13:55:09 GMT
He left as soon as he came off the ice after his last game Tell us more then. Plenty to be annoyed with that game, but interestingly it was the game where we had the import space available yet Rok didn't travel. So annoyed at what happened in front of him. He was or became unwell or injured, but Rok wasn't there to replace him. They refused to let him off as Luca was back up. Or somebody within blamed him. He desperately wanted to be taken off and wasn't, and at the end of the game, he threw his blocker and stormed off the ice straight away. He wasn't having a good night, but we were defensively terrible.
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Post by DMS on Feb 28, 2024 13:58:38 GMT
He left as soon as he came off the ice after his last game I wouldn’t say that it wasn’t as immediate as this as he was around the arena at the Devils midweek game.
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Post by bobness on Feb 28, 2024 15:52:58 GMT
Whilst not getting into any "he said, she said" kind of arguments, it does perhaps make you wonder what has to happen to get Luca Sheldon in between the pipes to relieve the starter if it doesn't happen after 9 goals conceded on the starting netminder in 2 games very close to each other.
Only 1 other starting goalie has conceded 9 goals this year and not been pulled, and that was when Fife had Little in, when Owen was injured, with 16 year old Cameron Kenny backing up. And even that game wasn't the worst SP% of a "whole game" goalie so far this year. The bottom 3 of that list are all Nottingham goalies.
Although I find it hard to imagine that Rok only made 1 save in the third period of the game in Glasgow last week...
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Post by shinobi on Feb 28, 2024 17:00:49 GMT
IIHF transfer deadline was 15/2 wasn’t it? Maybe Robinson handed his notice in prior to that so was therefore available for transfer?! Is this when a player gives notice and not thus allowing a team to get somebody in to replace? If a player can leave this way, surely the team should be allowed to fill the gap after the deadline. Otherwise the 'notice' given should be that two weeks prior to the deadline at the latest. I’ve no idea mate. Just speculation on my part. Sounds good though 😂
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Post by Bagheera on Feb 28, 2024 17:20:27 GMT
The thing is, we were always in that game. It was very weird in the sense that we conceded 9 but were never out ofthe game. Up until the 9thgoal we were either leading or never more than 1 goal down. In terms of leaving Robinson in, you can understand why the coaches did it. There was a game to be won. As said on the game thread at the time. If Rok was backing up he could've been on and potentially saved the game. Leaving him Nottingham for anything other than injury or ilness was a poor decision if that was the case. They are the decisions teams like Sheffield wouldn't make. Thats the bit we dont know though.
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Post by blackandgold73 on Feb 28, 2024 17:52:22 GMT
Good luck to Mike, but it'd be interesting to know how the IIHF stuff works here, do they just ignore them in NA? Why has he been able to transfer back to a different member nation after the window has ended? IIHF transfer deadline was 15/2 wasn’t it? Maybe Robinson handed his notice in prior to that so was therefore available for transfer?! An interesting subclause of the IIHF transfer regulations states that: 3.3 If the Transfer is not approved or refused before the Deadline lapses, the Transfer will automatically be approved. So, in theory (and for the record I'm not stating he did this) but a player wanting to force a move can submit the transfer request to the IIHF system so late that the current team may not receive formal notification of the request in time to object to the transfer. Indeed, its entirely possible that the first thing they may know is the player giving his notice to them after the fact. Not saying that this was done but simply saying the system allows for teams to be blindsided by moves they can't prevent. It's built into the system unfortunately to stop player's current teams running down the clock on a transfer request and saying they weren't aware of it. It puts the onus on the current team to respond, but is open to abuse as a result. Abuse that means players can't be replaced. So there's more than one possible explanation and entirely more than just 'the Panthers are must have known and hidden it' conclusion
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Post by pantherlee on Feb 28, 2024 19:09:14 GMT
The thing is, we were always in that game. It was very weird in the sense that we conceded 9 but were never out ofthe game. Up until the 9thgoal we were either leading or never more than 1 goal down. In terms of leaving Robinson in, you can understand why the coaches did it. There was a game to be won. As said on the game thread at the time. If Rok was backing up he could've been on and potentially saved the game. Leaving him Nottingham for anything other than injury or ilness was a poor decision if that was the case. They are the decisions teams like Sheffield wouldn't make. Thats the bit we dont know though. If that’s the case I’ve got no sympathy for him. He’s paid to do a job. Stop whining and get on with it. Sounds like quite an unprofessional attitude
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