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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2023 11:45:44 GMT
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Post by kievthegreat on Apr 18, 2023 12:00:51 GMT
Interesting point in the interview. He's clearly been over to Nottingham and at a game already.
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Post by kievthegreat on Apr 18, 2023 12:07:05 GMT
Comment from a Jokers fan on Facebook (that I found on twitter).
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Post by TjPanther on Apr 18, 2023 12:09:25 GMT
The problem will be, not with the coach, but the same old battle speech from the club. I doubt fans will buy into it after many seasons of false promises and especially the 22/23 we’ve all had to suffer through.
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Post by allingtonskates on Apr 18, 2023 12:13:49 GMT
Sounds good. Hope he signs some physical Players into the team.
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Post by float on Apr 18, 2023 12:15:29 GMT
Comment from a Jokers fan on Facebook (that I found on twitter). Is that fan's name just the French translation of Jono Bullard? Sorry Jono! Haha Happy to get behind this guy and see what he can do, can't get carried away with anything but all we can do is build up that off-season hope (again). No suicidal mention of guaranteeing physical/intimidating hockey though, that's last years mistake learnt.
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Post by jd on Apr 18, 2023 12:20:33 GMT
Really like the look/sound. But as always, will be judged from September onwards. Can’t be any worse than this season……can it?
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Post by spik on Apr 18, 2023 12:24:37 GMT
You heard it. Chat has finished and the action starts next season. Just listen and await the results, no getting excited yet as we have previously. Assume he came for the play-offs? Assume someone told him that’s not the usual scene every week. All the best to the man, as long as he can set HIS stall out and communicate with the players.
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Post by Jono Bullard on Apr 18, 2023 12:29:44 GMT
Comment from a Jokers fan on Facebook (that I found on twitter). Is that fan's name just the French translation of Jono Bullard? Sorry Jono! Haha Happy to get behind this guy and see what he can do, can't get carried away with anything but all we can do is build up that off-season hope (again). No suicidal mention of guaranteeing physical/intimidating hockey though, that's last years mistake learnt. I did do a double take when I read that on FB earlier!
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Post by kievthegreat on Apr 18, 2023 12:31:53 GMT
A lot of the comments are pretty negative which seems a bit harsh on Paredes. Ligue Magnus coach of the year, took a tiny club to compete at the top end of the French league. Seems a bit unfair to take people obvious misgivings with the club out on him.
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Post by kievthegreat on Apr 18, 2023 12:32:41 GMT
Is that fan's name just the French translation of Jono Bullard? Sorry Jono! Haha Happy to get behind this guy and see what he can do, can't get carried away with anything but all we can do is build up that off-season hope (again). No suicidal mention of guaranteeing physical/intimidating hockey though, that's last years mistake learnt. I did do a double take when I read that on FB earlier! Of course you did Monsieur Bullard!
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Post by kievthegreat on Apr 18, 2023 12:33:24 GMT
Really like the look/sound. But as always, will be judged from September onwards. Can’t be any worse than this season……can it? We say this everytime and we need to stop!
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Post by awooga on Apr 18, 2023 12:38:53 GMT
New start, new coach, new players.
Seems a time served, respected coach.
Unlike football, not stuck with wasters on long term contracts, so it’s a clean slate. Hope he can attract some decent players and perhaps get more out of anyone who stays on.
Wonder who the moaners would be happy with?
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Post by Yotes on Apr 18, 2023 12:40:26 GMT
Well bonne chance, coach. He speaks English very well and is clearly well regarded in his home country, so let's see what he can do.
A lot will come down to initial recruitment, as it always does. What he says sounds good, but then again no one's going to come in and say we'll drift through league games and try a bit for the knockout comps. GG talked a good game, then we recruited the team.
Hopefully it's all more successful than last time, and Pacha can keep away from his "not me guv" letters to the fans in the first few weeks of the season.
This bit is interesting, at his French team they had several coaches (assistant, goalie, conditioning at least I think). Let's see what our spending will stretch to.
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Post by bobness on Apr 18, 2023 12:41:30 GMT
A lot of the comments are pretty negative which seems a bit harsh on Paredes. Ligue Magnus coach of the year, took a tiny club to compete at the top end of the French league. Seems a bit unfair to take people obvious misgivings with the club out on him. Haters gonna hate. Coached Baillargeon last season; 2 years ago, Owre from Giants, Sherbinin (Flyers), Tait from Flames and Kearney too. So isn't new to the kind of player who does well in the UK. Good business to get the deal done early. Lets him go for the players he wants. Good luck to him.
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Post by kievthegreat on Apr 18, 2023 13:03:53 GMT
Well bonne chance, coach. He speaks English very well and is clearly well regarded in his home country, so let's see what he can do. A lot will come down to initial recruitment, as it always does. What he says sounds good, but then again no one's going to come in and say we'll drift through league games and try a bit for the knockout comps. GG talked a good game, then we recruited the team. Hopefully it's all more successful than last time, and Pacha can keep away from his "not me guv" letters to the fans in the first few weeks of the season. This bit is interesting, at his French team they had several coaches (assistant, goalie, conditioning at least I think). Let's see what our spending will stretch to. Multiple coaches should be the minimum expected IMO. If Panthers aspire to be a professional organisation they should be mindful of what professional organisations do. That means coaches for Goalie/Defence/Offence/Fitness. If we are restricted to how many players we can sign and what we can pay them, we should leverage everything outside of that to gain an advantage (assuming we spend to the cap). Once we hit the cap, the off-ice coaching team is the only lever to get better performance. Look at sports like football and you'll have nutritionists, Sports Scientists, Data Analysts, Sports Psychologists, etc... We started this year without even an assistant!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2023 13:29:27 GMT
Well bonne chance, coach. He speaks English very well and is clearly well regarded in his home country, so let's see what he can do. A lot will come down to initial recruitment, as it always does. What he says sounds good, but then again no one's going to come in and say we'll drift through league games and try a bit for the knockout comps. GG talked a good game, then we recruited the team. Hopefully it's all more successful than last time, and Pacha can keep away from his "not me guv" letters to the fans in the first few weeks of the season. This bit is interesting, at his French team they had several coaches (assistant, goalie, conditioning at least I think). Let's see what our spending will stretch to. Multiple coaches should be the minimum expected IMO. If Panthers aspire to be a professional organisation they should be mindful of what professional organisations do. That means coaches for Goalie/Defence/Offence/Fitness. If we are restricted to how many players we can sign and what we can pay them, we should leverage everything outside of that to gain an advantage (assuming we spend to the cap). Once we hit the cap, the off-ice coaching team is the only lever to get better performance. Look at sports like football and you'll have nutritionists, Sports Scientists, Data Analysts, Sports Psychologists, etc... We started this year without even an assistant! Exactly this for me.. very telling statement.. if Belfast and Cardiff can afford 3 coaches behind the bench then so can panthers and it's clearly the way hockey should be .. there's too much going off on the ice for only one pair of eyes
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Post by kievthegreat on Apr 18, 2023 14:14:25 GMT
Multiple coaches should be the minimum expected IMO. If Panthers aspire to be a professional organisation they should be mindful of what professional organisations do. That means coaches for Goalie/Defence/Offence/Fitness. If we are restricted to how many players we can sign and what we can pay them, we should leverage everything outside of that to gain an advantage (assuming we spend to the cap). Once we hit the cap, the off-ice coaching team is the only lever to get better performance. Look at sports like football and you'll have nutritionists, Sports Scientists, Data Analysts, Sports Psychologists, etc... We started this year without even an assistant! Exactly this for me.. very telling statement.. if Belfast and Cardiff can afford 3 coaches behind the bench then so can panthers and it's clearly the way hockey should be .. there's too much going off on the ice for only one pair of eyes Imagine what it's like when you've got 20 guys doing drills in practice! A modern football coach meanwhile will have someone to re-watch all the training footage to feedback to the manager. I know when Ipswich brought in their newest manager, he had the club buy drones so he could get a birdseye view of training and give better positional coaching to individual players and units. A one time cost of a few thousand pounds (and you could in theory spend a lot less for a couple of drones) won't get you any real advantage on the pitch if you put that into players wages or a transfer fee, but it might help maximise what you have. I'm not suggesting Panthers buy drones, but once we hit the cap, we should be weighing up the value of extra coaches, better cameras for recording, someone to watch footage, analysts, literally anything that can improve the on-ice performance, even indirectly. It might be diminishing returns on some things, somethings might be too marginal, but I don't believe for one second we should have just 1 full-time head coach and a part time assistant behind the bench. I also think we should maximise spend in other places like getting better apartments, cars, etc..., providing they aren't in the cap as this would help recruitment, but this is less of a head coach thing and more of a CEO thing.
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Post by wgray on Apr 18, 2023 14:49:58 GMT
Good luck to Jonathan, I’m not getting my hopes up about anything yet, or parting with any Season Ticket money, based on this announcement alone. We can’t have another season like the one just gone
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2023 14:50:24 GMT
Exactly this for me.. very telling statement.. if Belfast and Cardiff can afford 3 coaches behind the bench then so can panthers and it's clearly the way hockey should be .. there's too much going off on the ice for only one pair of eyes Imagine what it's like when you've got 20 guys doing drills in practice! A modern football coach meanwhile will have someone to re-watch all the training footage to feedback to the manager. I know when Ipswich brought in their newest manager, he had the club buy drones so he could get a birdseye view of training and give better positional coaching to individual players and units. A one time cost of a few thousand pounds (and you could in theory spend a lot less for a couple of drones) won't get you any real advantage on the pitch if you put that into players wages or a transfer fee, but it might help maximise what you have. I'm not suggesting Panthers buy drones, but once we hit the cap, we should be weighing up the value of extra coaches, better cameras for recording, someone to watch footage, analysts, literally anything that can improve the on-ice performance, even indirectly. It might be diminishing returns on some things, somethings might be too marginal, but I don't believe for one second we should have just 1 full-time head coach and a part time assistant behind the bench. I also think we should maximise spend in other places like getting better apartments, cars, etc..., providing they aren't in the cap as this would help recruitment, but this is less of a head coach thing and more of a CEO thing. Exactly this mate. Make the players feel wanted and they might produce more
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Post by EMB on Apr 18, 2023 15:06:39 GMT
You heard it. Chat has finished and the action starts next season. Just listen and await the results, no getting excited yet as we have previously. Assume he came for the play-offs? Assume someone told him that’s not the usual scene every week. All the best to the man, as long as he can set HIS stall out and communicate with the players. Think he was here for Guildford as he said a week ago. could be wrong tho' Anyway, Good Luck to him hope he knows how to buy a team on a budget because while ever NB is here its going to be cheap cheap and cheap. He doesn't know what he's let himself in for.
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Post by spik on Apr 18, 2023 15:20:03 GMT
Well bonne chance, coach. He speaks English very well and is clearly well regarded in his home country, so let's see what he can do. A lot will come down to initial recruitment, as it always does. What he says sounds good, but then again no one's going to come in and say we'll drift through league games and try a bit for the knockout comps. GG talked a good game, then we recruited the team. Hopefully it's all more successful than last time, and Pacha can keep away from his "not me guv" letters to the fans in the first few weeks of the season. This bit is interesting, at his French team they had several coaches (assistant, goalie, conditioning at least I think). Let's see what our spending will stretch to. Multiple coaches should be the minimum expected IMO. If Panthers aspire to be a professional organisation they should be mindful of what professional organisations do. That means coaches for Goalie/Defence/Offence/Fitness. If we are restricted to how many players we can sign and what we can pay them, we should leverage everything outside of that to gain an advantage (assuming we spend to the cap). Once we hit the cap, the off-ice coaching team is the only lever to get better performance. Look at sports like football and you'll have nutritionists, Sports Scientists, Data Analysts, Sports Psychologists, etc... We started this year without even an assistant! Moving beyond this, outside the pro positions, the offers of help from fans/talented persons that get no reply ( unacceptable) even if they believe it’s not required. Three separate occasions ignored from contact shows the club is still not as improved as they thought they were. Same with Elite. Some of us out here are just avoided at any cost, which is sad. This outside help would be voluntary too, saving dosh.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2023 15:36:18 GMT
Like what's been said we will know how cheap NB is prepared to go once Paredes has assembled his coaching staff. If by September it's just him and Strachan and the equipment guy then it was all lies .. let's just see
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Post by blackandgold73 on Apr 18, 2023 16:11:45 GMT
Though he never gets a mention on the Panthers main page, haven't we had a Czech analyst helping the coaches out for about 3-4 seasons now? Martin??
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2023 16:27:03 GMT
These analysts are good to have but having defence and offense coaches are very important and should be a given
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