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Post by wgray on May 4, 2022 18:08:17 GMT
Welcome Omar!
I liked his enthusiasm in the interview, he said all the right things (which you would expect) but he does come across as a likeable and approachable character, which is what our club needs right now.
I think he’s made it clear as well that we will be recruiting a head coach that has had experience as a GM as well.
Best of luck to him, hopefully he can rebuild the club and get a lot of former fans to support the club again.
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Post by Jord v4 on May 4, 2022 18:16:44 GMT
That AHL winger might show up this summer too  Doesn't specifically say he'll be doing the recruitment (unless it says that in the interview, not listened), so the coach may still do that? Anyway, the very best of luck to Pacha, hope he gets the control he needs to get the club back where it should be. You can't let me have one little moment can you... |
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So now it's been officially announced what's the difference between CEO and DOH. Apart from the fancy title? I would have thought it was very very obvious. Even for someone as Panthers nihilistic as yourself. Oh I know what the difference is .. my point is a CEO has final say ON EVERYTHING to do with the running of the club. But we all know he won't . Don't we ..😉 |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2022 18:25:09 GMT
So now it's been officially announced what's the difference between CEO and DOH. Apart from the fancy title? Well it clearly states he will oversee all on and off ice activities. DOH was on ice. Clearly in normal business a CEO would be above a GM and DOH. However in this instance I think it is a fancy dress up for GM. Exactly my point mate |
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Post by Jord v4 on May 4, 2022 18:34:44 GMT
I would have thought it was very very obvious. Even for someone as Panthers nihilistic as yourself. Oh I know what the difference is .. my point is a CEO has final say ON EVERYTHING to do with the running of the club. But we all know he won't . Don't we ..😉 So your point was actually nothing like you originally posted at all. I see. These past two days certainly haven't been your best on here have they.... |
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Post by Jord v4 on May 4, 2022 18:40:01 GMT
Anyway, back on topic...
I don't want to be the downcast one here as others can carry that title off far better but one very pertinent question comes to mind.... If Pacha is mainly off ice as it appears then why have we spent the past 6 months appointing new people in new roles left, right & centre?? Pacha may not like or want these people/roles... Unless of course he's been in on it from the start.
Very peculiar.
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Post by allingtonskates on May 4, 2022 18:42:00 GMT
Anyway, back on topic... I don't want to be the downcast one here as others can carry that title off far better but one very pertinent question comes to mind.... If Pacha is mainly off ice as it appears then why have we spent the past 6 months appointing new people in new roles left, right & centre?? Pacha may not like or want these people/roles... Unless of course he's been in on it from the start. Very peculiar. im purely guessing here but I’d imagine NB left almost all of it to Gary and then panicked when he unfortunately passed. |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2022 18:44:35 GMT
Anyway, back on topic... I don't want to be the downcast one here as others can carry that title off far better but one very pertinent question comes to mind.... If Pacha is mainly off ice as it appears then why have we spent the past 6 months appointing new people in new roles left, right & centre?? Pacha may not like or want these people/roles... Unless of course he's been in on it from the start. Very peculiar. I'm hoping he doesn't like who's already there.. they'd be more at home at the circus! |
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Post by Jord v4 on May 4, 2022 18:58:37 GMT
Anyway, back on topic... I don't want to be the downcast one here as others can carry that title off far better but one very pertinent question comes to mind.... If Pacha is mainly off ice as it appears then why have we spent the past 6 months appointing new people in new roles left, right & centre?? Pacha may not like or want these people/roles... Unless of course he's been in on it from the start. Very peculiar. im purely guessing here but I’d imagine NB left almost all of it to Gary and then panicked when he unfortunately passed. Gary had very little involvement for nearly two seasons previous... I can buy panic/change bit I guess but for a smart businessman it seems a very strange and potentially costly move. Unless of course he's already told Pacha all the current staff stay which undermines him from day one. |
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Post by allingtonskates on May 4, 2022 19:05:29 GMT
im purely guessing here but I’d imagine NB left almost all of it to Gary and then panicked when he unfortunately passed. Gary had very little involvement for nearly two seasons previous... I can buy panic/change bit I guess but for a smart businessman it seems a very strange and potentially costly move. Unless of course he's already told Pacha all the current staff stay which undermines him from day one. in that case I’d hope they were temporary job fillers. |
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Post by norbert70 on May 4, 2022 19:07:19 GMT
im purely guessing here but I’d imagine NB left almost all of it to Gary and then panicked when he unfortunately passed. Gary had very little involvement for nearly two seasons previous... I can buy panic/change bit I guess but for a smart businessman it seems a very strange and potentially costly move. Unless of course he's already told Pacha all the current staff stay which undermines him from day one. clear the lot outon ice and off ice, including the housing/commentater/wage thief, person, give Pacha a chance clearly after Moran went Blacky didn't have a clue, on and off ice this club is a joke. |
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Post by norbert70 on May 4, 2022 19:11:03 GMT
Oh I know what the difference is .. my point is a CEO has final say ON EVERYTHING to do with the running of the club. But we all know he won't . Don't we ..😉 So your point was actually nothing like you originally posted at all. I see. These past two days certainly haven't been your best on here have they.... i dont post much, but can you two get in a boxing ring, just 🥊🥊😠😡? ADMIN, it spoils this website so much |
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Post by wgray on May 4, 2022 19:20:07 GMT
im purely guessing here but I’d imagine NB left almost all of it to Gary and then panicked when he unfortunately passed. Gary had very little involvement for nearly two seasons previous... I can buy panic/change bit I guess but for a smart businessman it seems a very strange and potentially costly move. Unless of course he's already told Pacha all the current staff stay which undermines him from day one. To me, it appears as though Black has brought Pacha in to run the club in its entirety, so Black himself doesn’t have to be involved with decision making. I know there are a lot of gripes with people within the club but I believe it would be better for Pacha to come in and work with the existing staff, to hopefully motivate and push them to be better for the benefit of the club. If Pacha then feels that changes need to be made in personnel then the decision should be made by him. |
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Post by samantha on May 4, 2022 19:20:48 GMT
So your point was actually nothing like you originally posted at all. I see. These past two days certainly haven't been your best on here have they.... i dont post much, but can you two get in a boxing ring, just 🥊🥊😠😡? ADMIN, it spoils this website so much Agreed! I don't know why they even come on here. I think they are just people with no life. I am not even sure if they are Panthers fans or trolls any more! |
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Post by iginla on May 4, 2022 19:37:47 GMT
Saw that mentioned the other day but rumour has it Black is looking for a coach with EIHL experience that doesn’t break the bank whether Pasha comes under that heading I don’t know. Matheson unless he’s had enough aswell. He wouldn’t last five minutes at Panthers just like he didn’t at Sheffield. Far too much crap going on at both clubs for a no nonsense bloke like Christiansen. |
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Post by iginla on May 4, 2022 19:39:46 GMT
Anyway, back on topic... I don't want to be the downcast one here as others can carry that title off far better but one very pertinent question comes to mind.... If Pacha is mainly off ice as it appears then why have we spent the past 6 months appointing new people in new roles left, right & centre?? Pacha may not like or want these people/roles... Unless of course he's been in on it from the start. Very peculiar. Let’s hope he doesn’t like them and clears them all out. |
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Post by Bagheera on May 4, 2022 19:57:21 GMT
Gary had very little involvement for nearly two seasons previous... I can buy panic/change bit I guess but for a smart businessman it seems a very strange and potentially costly move. Unless of course he's already told Pacha all the current staff stay which undermines him from day one. To me, it appears as though Black has brought Pacha in to run the club in its entirety, so Black himself doesn’t have to be involved with decision making. I know there are a lot of gripes with people within the club but I believe it would be better for Pacha to come in and work with the existing staff, to hopefully motivate and push them to be better for the benefit of the club. If Pacha then feels that changes need to be made in personnel then the decision should be made by him. Agreed. To me it appears very much like a cultural problem that is deep seated. New people come in with the best intentions, full of energy and wanting to change things. After a while they spend so much time with the mood hoovers that they fall into the same mentality. At Panthers it appears to be that the fans/customers are the enemy. People that just make their lives more challenging. As a man that spent 20+ years in retail i've been involved and seen it happen countless times. Pacha should come in and give everybody a fresh start to buy into his ideas. Try and guide them through the change curve. You'd be suprised how much even the most stuborn of people can change and be like a new person. For those that choose not to buy in, show them the door. |
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Post by Jord v4 on May 4, 2022 20:04:43 GMT
So your point was actually nothing like you originally posted at all. I see. These past two days certainly haven't been your best on here have they.... i dont post much, but can you two get in a boxing ring, just 🥊🥊😠😡? ADMIN, it spoils this website so much WTF? I've hardly been involved with Pidge lately & we get on pretty darn well. Point your accusations elsewhere. |
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Post by Jord v4 on May 4, 2022 20:05:13 GMT
i dont post much, but can you two get in a boxing ring, just 🥊🥊😠😡? ADMIN, it spoils this website so much Agreed! I don't know why they even come on here. I think they are just people with no life. I am not even sure if they are Panthers fans or trolls any more! They?! Don't label me in the same boat please. |
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Post by Fez on May 4, 2022 20:18:43 GMT
Good luck to the lad.
It would be nice if Dane Murphy & Steve Cooper gave him some time after Forest’s season ends. They’ve certainly shown how good management can very quickly turn a club around and reinvigorate the city.
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i dont post much, but can you two get in a boxing ring, just 🥊🥊😠😡? ADMIN, it spoils this website so much WTF? I've hardly been involved with Pidge lately & we get on pretty darn well. Point your accusations elsewhere. Friendly banter.. we both are in agreement on alot of things . |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2022 21:15:37 GMT
Like I've said Pacha needs to control everything at the club from the tea lady to the quality on the ice. NB is there just to pay the bills .
If he's left to do that you'll see a improvement. Anyone who shows any incompetence show them the door.. harsh but if he wants the club to be the gold standard then that's what he needs to apply
And if he wants the culture to change he needs to surround himself with winners
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Post by blackandgold73 on May 4, 2022 21:48:28 GMT
Definitely a promising interview and I like what I heard. He's not afraid to tell it like it is about the fact the organisation is not a contender any more and that we've gone backwards. Also like that he acknowledges we don't have an on ice identity any more. And that he's clearly aware that *a lot* has to be done to get the fans back on board, and onside.
But most of all I felt like he was saying he wanted passionate people around him, in the club, in the organisation, on the ice and that he'd hold people accountable. I can't see him tolerating coasting, either from the players or (and this is crucial!) from the staff: because it's hard get fans to buy in and give their passion into the team when you can tell the people running the show no longer do.
Would be nice to get back to the days when teams didn't like coming to the arena to play Nottingham because they knew the crowd was worth an extra man.
Recently, and perfectly understandably considering the way the organisation has treated the fan base, it's not been "Welcome to the Panther's Lair! This is our ice!" for visiting teams... but "Welcome to the Kitty Cafe! Oh and would you like to buy a random St Patrick's Day shirt whilst you're here?"
Hoping Omar can bring the passion back and turn it around.
Good luck to him and welcome to Nottingham Omar!
And yes Omar, if we feel your passion, feel the commitment of the organisation, the respect of the organisation to it's fan base as something other than a cash machine, we'll come with you on the journey.
Good luck to him and fingers crossed.
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Post by iginla on May 4, 2022 21:59:31 GMT
Definitely a promising interview and I like what I heard. He's not afraid to tell it like it is about the fact the organisation is not a contender any more and that we've gone backwards. Also like that he acknowledges we don't have an on ice identity any more. And that he's clearly aware that *a lot* has to be done to get the fans back on board, and onside. But most of all I felt like he was saying he wanted passionate people around him, in the club, in the organisation, on the ice and that he'd hold people accountable. I can't see him tolerating coasting, either from the players or (and this is crucial!) from the staff: because it's hard get fans to buy in and give their passion into the team when you can tell the people running the show no longer do. Would be nice to get back to the days when teams didn't like coming to the arena to play Nottingham because they knew the crowd was worth an extra man. Recently, and perfectly understandably considering the way the organisation has treated the fan base, it's not been "Welcome to the Panther's Lair! This is our ice!" for visiting teams... but "Welcome to the Kitty Cafe! Oh and would you like to buy a random St Patrick's Day shirt whilst you're here?" Hoping Omar can bring the passion back and turn it around. Good luck to him and welcome to Nottingham Omar! And yes Omar, if we feel your passion, feel the commitment of the organisation, the respect of the organisation to it's fan base as something other than a cash machine, we'll come with you on the journey. Good luck to him and fingers crossed. He still needs a competitive budget and that’s down to Black. Without it even Pacha won’t turn the on ice quality and results around. |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2022 22:08:10 GMT
Definitely a promising interview and I like what I heard. He's not afraid to tell it like it is about the fact the organisation is not a contender any more and that we've gone backwards. Also like that he acknowledges we don't have an on ice identity any more. And that he's clearly aware that *a lot* has to be done to get the fans back on board, and onside. But most of all I felt like he was saying he wanted passionate people around him, in the club, in the organisation, on the ice and that he'd hold people accountable. I can't see him tolerating coasting, either from the players or (and this is crucial!) from the staff: because it's hard get fans to buy in and give their passion into the team when you can tell the people running the show no longer do. Would be nice to get back to the days when teams didn't like coming to the arena to play Nottingham because they knew the crowd was worth an extra man. Recently, and perfectly understandably considering the way the organisation has treated the fan base, it's not been "Welcome to the Panther's Lair! This is our ice!" for visiting teams... but "Welcome to the Kitty Cafe! Oh and would you like to buy a random St Patrick's Day shirt whilst you're here?" Hoping Omar can bring the passion back and turn it around. Good luck to him and welcome to Nottingham Omar! And yes Omar, if we feel your passion, feel the commitment of the organisation, the respect of the organisation to it's fan base as something other than a cash machine, we'll come with you on the journey. Good luck to him and fingers crossed. He still needs a competitive budget and that’s down to Black. Without it even Pacha won’t turn the on ice quality and results around. There's that much wrong with the club there's things what can get put right which don't cost any money |
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