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Post by Daddio on Apr 24, 2022 5:34:47 GMT
It's that time of year when we start to think who would you like back next season.
Players I'd like to see back are
All Brits if fit (can't see us prising any away from other clubs but if could get Downie as back up NM would be nice)
Welsh (on Uni deal so think he's a certainty)
Boivin
Corozza
Brassard
Mathesson(not as player coach though)
Massey
Carr (unless we can really upgrade or get Bowns)
What we need is some size both on D and up front, when we played Cardiff last week we looked like little boys beside them and we definitely need someone who can fight and play eg. Lepine or Salters type.
Ready to be shot down in flames
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Post by panthersnation on Apr 24, 2022 6:39:19 GMT
I’d generally like to see the majority go it’s not been good enough all year.
I’d like to see us swap our Brit pack up also if possible happy for #8 & #74 to stay. id like to see jackson whsitle broight back and run 2 goalies again.
Ones I’d potentially look to keep
#13
#15 (uni deal)
#94
Rest can go for me, #23 was awful at the start or the season but will
Give him his due he has been good since his return but he can’t stay fit enough move on.
I can’t see bowns coming in doucet leaves
Anybody fancy Ben o’Connor instead of lee?
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Apr 24, 2022 6:44:13 GMT
Brassard, Massy (if he plays less like Doherty and more like Lepine), Boivin, Welsh, Richards, possibly Lane, possibly Carr with a playable back up not just a shot counter.
We do NOT need O'Connor
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Post by Bagheera on Apr 24, 2022 7:25:52 GMT
Same thing a lot of us have often said and Jono mentioned on his hockey chat this week. Would they be good enough to get in a Cardiff, Sheffield or Belfast team?
The answer to the vast majority is no.
Welsh is on a uni deal and scored over a PPG. Add some additional quality and he should do really well.
Brassard has been very good for us on a poor D.
Those are the only 2 i'd say i'd like to see back.
I would be quite happy if non of the rest returned.
More than anything though it would be more about what else we signed in order to place the others we may keep. I've said a few times that I wouldn't mind picking perhaps another 2 forwards to play on the bottom 6. Boivin and Richards perhaps. Carozza with a fully fit season I think could prove to be quite a threat. Even Lane or Baillargeon could stay. Take your pick. The team needs a lot of ugrades all over the ice so we simply can't afford too keep to many and expect a big enough improvement to close that 33 point gap we saw this season.
Kevin Carr. No way. On his best day he looks like he could do the business but he just isn't consistant enough to be a championship winning goalie.
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Post by pantherlee on Apr 24, 2022 8:11:07 GMT
It's that time of year when we start to think who would you like back next season. Players I'd like to see back are All Brits if fit (can't see us prising any away from other clubs but if could get Downie as back up NM would be nice) Welsh (on Uni deal so think he's a certainty) Boivin Corozza Brassard Mathesson(not as player coach though) Massey Carr (unless we can really upgrade or get Bowns) What we need is some size both on D and up front, when we played Cardiff last week we looked like little boys beside them and we definitely need someone who can fight and play eg. Lepine or Salters type. Ready to be shot down in flames You would have that many back from such a bad team? I’d have Welsh, Brassard, and either Boivin or Carozza not both but wouldn’t be upset if neither came back. The rest need improving on. Never rated Carr. Matheson looks past it now and the rest were just not up to scratch |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2022 9:00:30 GMT
Staggers me how many want some bang average imports back.. would carozza get a spot on the giants roster for example?
Where panthers have major major problems is with the Brits...they need a complete overhaul and huge upgrade .
I said the day he was signed Carr isn't a championship winning goalie and nowhere near it .. he may have the good odd game in 10 but that won't cut it
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Post by pantherlee on Apr 24, 2022 9:27:57 GMT
Staggers me how many want some bang average imports back.. would carozza get a spot on the giants roster for example? Where panthers have major major problems is with the Brits...they need a complete overhaul and huge upgrade . I said the day he was signed Carr isn't a championship winning goalie and nowhere near it .. he may have the good odd game in 10 but that won't cut it Boivin or Carozza might be good for the 3rd line that’s why I’d say one or the other. Equivalent to Doggett or Soy for Belfast but not on the top lines which they currently occupy. That’s where we need a massive upgrade |
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Post by pantherlee on Apr 24, 2022 11:23:18 GMT
Staggers me how many want some bang average imports back.. would carozza get a spot on the giants roster for example? Where panthers have major major problems is with the Brits...they need a complete overhaul and huge upgrade . I said the day he was signed Carr isn't a championship winning goalie and nowhere near it .. he may have the good odd game in 10 but that won't cut it Agreed with the brits but who are we going to replace them with. I can’t see Hook or Ferrara coming. Clements in for Tetlow? I’d like to see Jackson Whistle back in a goalie tandem. Shouldn’t let him go this season after his performance in the Elite Series It wouldn’t surprise me if Lacho came back |
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Post by Bagheera on Apr 24, 2022 11:51:41 GMT
Staggers me how many want some bang average imports back.. would carozza get a spot on the giants roster for example? Where panthers have major major problems is with the Brits...they need a complete overhaul and huge upgrade . I said the day he was signed Carr isn't a championship winning goalie and nowhere near it .. he may have the good odd game in 10 but that won't cut it Agreed with the brits but who are we going to replace them with. I can’t see Hook or Ferrara coming. Clements in for Tetlow? I’d like to see Jackson Whistle back in a goalie tandem. Shouldn’t let him go this season after his performance in the Elite Series It wouldn’t surprise me if Lacho came back I think most Brits have Black listed us due to our owner having heard stories from their pals who played here. We will struggle to attract the top Brits until something changes. For a start we'd have to be prepared to pay more than the other teams are offering. Our best chance of a top Brit would be to get Perlini back. It looks like he is keen to see more of the world as he plays, but i'd imagine we are always his fall back option should he not land what he really wants. I think Whsitle went back to Belfast more out of personal choice. His ties/girlfriend are there. |
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Apr 24, 2022 12:10:16 GMT
Apart from Betteridge I can’t imagine anyone wanting any of them back. I guess some of them must be friendly on quiz nights.
Apart from Betteridge all of our Brits (not sure about another year from Matthew) wouldn’t get into any other EIHL team and I don’t think any of our imports would get onto any arena team forth line.
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Post by jd on Apr 24, 2022 15:41:36 GMT
Myers and Oli. Not bothered about any of the rest.
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Post by blackandgold73 on Apr 24, 2022 17:50:59 GMT
It's that time of year when we start to think who would you like back next season. Would it be wrong to say... ... Corey |
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Post by TjPanther on Apr 24, 2022 17:54:03 GMT
Non….
Normally you can pull out a few good players from a bad season to carry over as a core, but this lot I can’t even do that.
So all change for me
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Post by blackandgold73 on Apr 24, 2022 17:56:00 GMT
Ready to be shot down in flames I think we just were. I think we just were |
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Post by jd on Apr 24, 2022 17:57:34 GMT
It's that time of year when we start to think who would you like back next season. Would it be wrong to say... ... Corey As head coach? GM? |
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Post by blackandgold73 on Apr 24, 2022 18:05:39 GMT
Would it be wrong to say... ... Corey As head coach? GM? Can't see him wanting to be GM, especially not here. But I'd take him as Head Coach and or DOH. He's contacts have only gotten better since he left us after all. But, personally, I think he'd see it as a step back and I can't fault him for that. I could only see him ever considering it if he had recruitment autonomy and budget guarantees, because he does know how to recruit and put a team together. It was largely a frivolous post as I don't ever see it happening but we need someone who can change the culture, understands the problems and doesn't suffer fools. And he ticks those boxes too |
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Post by blackandgold73 on Apr 24, 2022 18:24:10 GMT
But, in all seriousness...
Welsh will obviously be back. And with better line mates we may see more from him.
Ollie, Brassard and Boivin would be a solid core to build around depending on what the new coach wants to play (but with all new systems it'll only need to be a small core of players)
I think Richards has earned a second season, I think he has potential and upside for a cheap, relatively inexperienced player. And how many solid 1st year pros have been developed into good PPG EIHL players at other teams in subsequent season? We need to start doing that too.
Fully fit I think Carozza is a potential PPG EIHL player but he's been injured repeatedly this season so he's a question mark right now for me depending on how fit he is next year
But the big question is the Coach.
We're coming off a losing season of 25W, 29L so the coach appointment is crucial.
And I think the HC needs to be someone who really will build their own team, not just coach the parts they're given by someone else.
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Post by John Casey on Apr 24, 2022 18:25:42 GMT
Richards and Boivin on 3rd line
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Post by bobness on Apr 24, 2022 18:52:49 GMT
But, in all seriousness... Welsh will obviously be back. And with better line mates we may see more from him. Ollie, Brassard and Boivin would be a solid core to build around depending on what the new coach wants to play (but with all new systems it'll only need to be a small core of players) I think Richards has earned a second season, I think he has potential and upside for a cheap, relatively inexperienced player. And how many solid 1st year pros have been developed into good PPG EIHL players at other teams in subsequent season? We need to start doing that too. Fully fit I think Carozza is a potential PPG EIHL player but he's been injured repeatedly this season so he's a question mark right now for me depending on how fit he is next year But the big question is the Coach. We're coming off a losing season of 25W, 29L so the coach appointment is crucial. And I think the HC needs to be someone who really will build their own team, not just coach the parts they're given by someone else. Pretty much this. Welsh, Boivin and one of Carozza/Richards may well be a decent second line/first PP unit. PPG players rarely play third line. Brassard has carried the D at times, and Massy has been statistically a revelation at the back. (+13 in half the season, the best best being +8) The rest have been too inconsistent/underwhelming/injured. Roll on next season... |
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Apr 24, 2022 19:03:33 GMT
Brassard, Massy (if he plays less like Doherty and more like Lepine), Boivin, Welsh, Richards, possibly Lane, possibly Carr with a playable back up not just a shot counter. We do NOT need O'Connor Changed my mind. Welsh and Boivin only. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2022 19:25:28 GMT
But, in all seriousness... Welsh will obviously be back. And with better line mates we may see more from him. Ollie, Brassard and Boivin would be a solid core to build around depending on what the new coach wants to play (but with all new systems it'll only need to be a small core of players) I think Richards has earned a second season, I think he has potential and upside for a cheap, relatively inexperienced player. And how many solid 1st year pros have been developed into good PPG EIHL players at other teams in subsequent season? We need to start doing that too. Fully fit I think Carozza is a potential PPG EIHL player but he's been injured repeatedly this season so he's a question mark right now for me depending on how fit he is next year But the big question is the Coach. We're coming off a losing season of 25W, 29L so the coach appointment is crucial. And I think the HC needs to be someone who really will build their own team, not just coach the parts they're given by someone else. Pretty much this. Welsh, Boivin and one of Carozza/Richards may well be a decent second line/first PP unit. PPG players rarely play third line. Brassard has carried the D at times, and Massy has been statistically a revelation at the back. (+13 in half the season, the best best being +8) The rest have been too inconsistent/underwhelming/injured. Roll on next season... Roll on next season? This comment always amuses me.. I've got news for you things won't be any better |
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Post by Bagheera on Apr 24, 2022 19:48:04 GMT
Pretty much this. Welsh, Boivin and one of Carozza/Richards may well be a decent second line/first PP unit. PPG players rarely play third line. Brassard has carried the D at times, and Massy has been statistically a revelation at the back. (+13 in half the season, the best best being +8) The rest have been too inconsistent/underwhelming/injured. Roll on next season... Roll on next season? This comment always amuses me.. I've got news for you things won't be any better There is a very real chance i'm going to be very wrong on this but I have a feeling Black may actually put his hand in his pocket ahead of next season. Even he can see how quickly this is all going south. Tonights attendance was woeful. Lucky if 2k people were in. They will need to get a lot of positive news out very quickly to entice ST sales. Let's wait and see what unfolds over the next month. |
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Apr 24, 2022 19:51:39 GMT
But, in all seriousness... Welsh will obviously be back. And with better line mates we may see more from him. Ollie, Brassard and Boivin would be a solid core to build around depending on what the new coach wants to play (but with all new systems it'll only need to be a small core of players) I think Richards has earned a second season, I think he has potential and upside for a cheap, relatively inexperienced player. And how many solid 1st year pros have been developed into good PPG EIHL players at other teams in subsequent season? We need to start doing that too. Fully fit I think Carozza is a potential PPG EIHL player but he's been injured repeatedly this season so he's a question mark right now for me depending on how fit he is next year But the big question is the Coach. We're coming off a losing season of 25W, 29L so the coach appointment is crucial. And I think the HC needs to be someone who really will build their own team, not just coach the parts they're given by someone else. Richard’s, Boivin and Carozza would be fine on a fourth line if you had six or seven injuries |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2022 20:00:07 GMT
But, in all seriousness... Welsh will obviously be back. And with better line mates we may see more from him. Ollie, Brassard and Boivin would be a solid core to build around depending on what the new coach wants to play (but with all new systems it'll only need to be a small core of players) I think Richards has earned a second season, I think he has potential and upside for a cheap, relatively inexperienced player. And how many solid 1st year pros have been developed into good PPG EIHL players at other teams in subsequent season? We need to start doing that too. Fully fit I think Carozza is a potential PPG EIHL player but he's been injured repeatedly this season so he's a question mark right now for me depending on how fit he is next year But the big question is the Coach. We're coming off a losing season of 25W, 29L so the coach appointment is crucial. And I think the HC needs to be someone who really will build their own team, not just coach the parts they're given by someone else. Richard’s, Boivin and Carozza would be fine on a fourth line if you had six or seven injuries Exactly the likes of Richards get nowhere near belfasts roster so why they deemed good enough for panthers? |
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Post by NottinghamMatt on Apr 24, 2022 20:00:34 GMT
Roll on next season? This comment always amuses me.. I've got news for you things won't be any better There is a very real chance i'm going to be very wrong on this but I have a feeling Black may actually put his hand in his pocket ahead of next season. Even he can see how quickly this is all going south. Tonights attendance was woeful. Lucky if 2k people were in. They will need to get a lot of positive news out very quickly to entice ST sales. Let's wait and see what unfolds over the next month. Well he was there to see it. So here's hoping! |
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