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Post by Bagheera on Feb 26, 2022 21:54:07 GMT
Great game first period. Fairly flat, even 2nd. We struggled to get going in the 3rd but when we did the game was turned by what for me was a bad call.
Some of the calls tonight were abysmal. I feel a combination of bad calls and unlucky bounces lost us that game. 7 3 massively flatters Steelers and it only ended up that as we chased the game.
Welsh has stepped up the last few games since being highlighted on here as going missing. Carr was decent for the most part too.
We arn't a great team by any stretch but this is another game I walk away from where i've been engaged.
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Post by John Casey on Feb 26, 2022 22:06:32 GMT
Some people are going to be giddy when they see the result.
To me, 7-3 flattered them but we were poor on the PP, PK and getting out of our zone.
For 2 periods, they played hard and did well to pull it back twice but unfortunately wasn't able to take the lead.
Heads dipped after their 4th and goals 5&6 were virtually identical but they invested in people who can score like that.
So I may be biased but was the officiating poor, was that Charging on Tousignant and it appeared that they were missing calls on them and the people around me in my block seemed to think that they were missing offsides as well.
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Post by spik on Feb 26, 2022 22:17:58 GMT
ENG at 58.48 same time as Goalie changes shows a 'change' ie, CARR off. So he must have just got to the bench when it went in? So was it ENG or general goal? TOI showing 58.04 ?
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Post by blackandgold73 on Feb 26, 2022 22:21:08 GMT
Some people are going to be giddy when they see the result. To me, 7-3 flattered them but we were poor on the PP, PK and getting out of our zone. For 2 periods, they played hard and did well to pull it back twice but unfortunately wasn't able to take the lead. Heads dipped after their 4th and goals 5&6 were virtually identical but they invested in people who can score like that. So I may be biased but was the officiating poor, was that Charging on Tousignant and it appeared that they were missing calls on them and the people around me in my block seemed to think that they were missing offsides as well. Yeah the gulf in PP class is really worrying. Steelers - 27%+ on PP over the season Devil's - 26%+ Giants - 21%+ Whilst we average 17% And tonight 0% to their 60% And when the officiating isn't going your way it just burys you
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Post by Higgy on Feb 26, 2022 22:30:33 GMT
ENG at 58.48 same time as Goalie changes shows a 'change' ie, CARR off. So he must have just got to the bench when it went in? So was it ENG or general goal? TOI showing 58.04 ? It was an ENG and Carr had been off for a while at that point I'm pretty sure. As had been said 7-3 was harsh on us but once our effort dropped (we looked cooked in the 3rd) we were no match for Sheffield. Our effort is the only thing that keeps us close against the top teams and once that has gone we don't have much. Highlight for me was Norrish scoring the 3rd goal, he suddenly had speed to burn and what a finish! Lack of quality costs us again
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Feb 26, 2022 22:37:47 GMT
It’s only thanks to calamity Brust the result was as close as it was
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Post by Bagheera on Feb 26, 2022 22:40:13 GMT
It’s only thanks to calamity Brust the result was as close as it was Thats a very fair point
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Post by Yotes on Feb 26, 2022 22:48:43 GMT
Was Domingue scratched, or is he injured again?
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Post by bobness on Feb 26, 2022 22:50:45 GMT
It’s only thanks to calamity Brust the result was as close as it was Thats a very fair point A calamitous 92.5% save record for the night. I’d hate to see him on a night when he’s in form.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Feb 26, 2022 22:54:48 GMT
A calamitous 92.5% save record for the night. I’d hate to see him on a night when he’s in form. He doesn’t play the Panthers every night
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Post by Caesar on Feb 26, 2022 23:11:43 GMT
Disgraceful. Im embarrassed
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Post by spik on Feb 26, 2022 23:29:16 GMT
Was Domingue scratched, or is he injured again? Believe it did say TS on the GRS originally as a scratch.
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Post by gordie on Feb 27, 2022 10:14:24 GMT
I wanted to sleep on the result before commenting, as there was so much to take in.
Firstly, it was never a 3-7 game. OK, Steelers had superior quality and speed, but our grit matched them for 2 periods. As already said, it was more like old style hockey.
Steelers high press certainly put pressure on our D, and several made silly mistakes none more so, then the goal after 20 seconds. It didn't look good when Steelers made it 2-0 on the powerplay shortly after. However, this was after a very poor hit on Tousi by Saxrud-D, which resulted in the roughing calls, then the fight, which Tousi definitely won, after they came out the box. The hit could well have been 5+G in my opinion.
Panthers finally started to play a high press as well and caused turn-overs in the Steelers D, which finally led to Welsh scoring. We then seemed to up the tempo and tied the game.
The second period was less open, but again some strange calls, and non-calls from the refs. After Steelers went ahead again, the goal from Norrish was sublime. Skating clear from his own blue line, he drilled a bullet past Brunt.
Third period, once Steelers took the lead again, we were chasing the game and then two identical breakaway goals (both shooting over Carr's glove) sealed the game. Then the empty net goal.
Welsh has certainly upped his game in the last couple of games. I thought Tetlow had a poor game, especially when he was under pressure, likewise Hedberg was poor.
I have to comment on Brunt though, how big is he? When he fell/dived it took him ages to get back to his feet. At least when he was down, he covered 90% of the goal...
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Post by iginla on Feb 27, 2022 13:02:11 GMT
Why do Panthers game reports either not appear or keep disappearing from the website and where is the league table shown ? Do you think it’s because they keep losing !
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Post by yeti on Feb 27, 2022 13:14:31 GMT
Score line does not show how close the game was. It was good old game of hockey with Panthers playing good checking hockey again. The difference was the PP. Panthers had 3 in the second period and didn't score. Steelers get the one in the third (one that shouldn't have been) and score a good PP goal. Then Panthers concede two break away goals whilst chasing the game. Then empty netter. Whistle has made a big difference to how Panthers play and it makes us a harder team to beat. Also a lot more entertaining team to watch. However there is not much he can do now about the lack of quality players and it is that lack that gives us a bad power play.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Feb 27, 2022 13:46:31 GMT
No complaints at all and at the end of the day despite spending two more periods playing well above anything we had any right to and the far better team won. All four on-ice officials missed or left loads of calls both ways and when the final buzzer went I was just pleased to be leaving (just in time for a major bust-up next to us in the Indian to cap off a great night). Really can't complain about the player's effort as I have never ever seen any Panthers team work so hard to the point of exhaustion. Just makes you realize what we could have done in past years with even half the effort this team puts in.
At the end of the day, I think we have four players that if upgraded on then this team would be transformed. Carozza, Hedberg, Baillargeon, and Tousignant. Carozza and Hedberg would struggle to get into any other EIHL team without being gassed in weeks, Baillargeon is either scoring goals or completely missing (MASSIVE as in seismic downgrade on Guptill who was a far better one-trick pony) and although Tousignant is entertaining and willing to have teeth knocked out on any given night he adds nothing else to the squad at all. I would also move Kelsall on and give Jack Hopkins his ice time now too.
Top of the list though would have to be Doucet. He bought into the Wallace boring one-on-one style of play and must have the worst contacts in the entire league. Cut him loose and burn the boat.
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Post by wgray on Feb 27, 2022 15:24:49 GMT
I think we all felt a bit disappointed leaving the arena yesterday but as others have said, the score line didn’t reflect the closeness of the game.
The performance of the referees always seems to be questioned whenever we play Sheffield, I have to agree though that some of the decisions yesterday were bewildering, especially the roughing call on Tousignant in the 1st and charging call on him in the 3rd.
5 on 5, we matched Sheffield, it was the special teams where we lost the game. We had over a minute of 5 on 3, plus 3 more pp’s yet we didn’t score a single goal on it. Sheffield had 5 pp’s and scored 3 goals. With regards to our pp the biggest issue we have is that the 2nd unit produce absolutely nothing, every time they go on the ice it looks as though they never played together and the worrying thing is that’s the unit with Matheson on.
It was pleasing to see the team fight back level after going 0-2 and 2-3 down, the poor call and resulting Sheffield pp goal just seemed to knock us off our stride.
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Post by wgray on Feb 27, 2022 15:29:58 GMT
No complaints at all and at the end of the day despite spending two more periods playing well above anything we had any right to and the far better team won. All four on-ice officials missed or left loads of calls both ways and when the final buzzer went I was just pleased to be leaving (just in time for a major bust-up next to us in the Indian to cap off a great night). Really can't complain about the player's effort as I have never ever seen any Panthers team work so hard to the point of exhaustion. Just makes you realize what we could have done in past years with even half the effort this team puts in. At the end of the day, I think we have four players that if upgraded on then this team would be transformed. Carozza, Hedberg, Baillargeon, and Tousignant. Carozza and Hedberg would struggle to get into any other EIHL team without being gassed in weeks, Baillargeon is either scoring goals or completely missing (MASSIVE as in seismic downgrade on Guptill who was a far better one-trick pony) and although Tousignant is entertaining and willing to have teeth knocked out on any given night he adds nothing else to the squad at all. I would also move Kelsall on and give Jack Hopkins his ice time now too. Top of the list though would have to be Doucet. He bought into the Wallace boring one-on-one style of play and must have the worst contacts in the entire league. Cut him loose and burn the boat. I’ve been thinking the exact same thing about Baillargeon. He’s a poor man’s Alex Guptill! More often than not he’s anonymous, every so often though he’ll have a game where he’s firing and that tops his points total up. I wouldn’t have him back next season.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Feb 27, 2022 16:20:14 GMT
No complaints at all and at the end of the day despite spending two more periods playing well above anything we had any right to and the far better team won. All four on-ice officials missed or left loads of calls both ways and when the final buzzer went I was just pleased to be leaving (just in time for a major bust-up next to us in the Indian to cap off a great night). Really can't complain about the player's effort as I have never ever seen any Panthers team work so hard to the point of exhaustion. Just makes you realize what we could have done in past years with even half the effort this team puts in. At the end of the day, I think we have four players that if upgraded on then this team would be transformed. Carozza, Hedberg, Baillargeon, and Tousignant. Carozza and Hedberg would struggle to get into any other EIHL team without being gassed in weeks, Baillargeon is either scoring goals or completely missing (MASSIVE as in seismic downgrade on Guptill who was a far better one-trick pony) and although Tousignant is entertaining and willing to have teeth knocked out on any given night he adds nothing else to the squad at all. I would also move Kelsall on and give Jack Hopkins his ice time now too. Top of the list though would have to be Doucet. He bought into the Wallace boring one-on-one style of play and must have the worst contacts in the entire league. Cut him loose and burn the boat. I’ve been thinking the exact same thing about Baillargeon. He’s a poor man’s Alex Guptill! More often than not he’s anonymous, every so often though he’ll have a game where he’s firing and that tops his points total up. I wouldn’t have him back next season. As hard as they work I wouldn't have hardly any of them back next year. I have a strong suspicion that even though season tickets are down, they are going to drop through the floor next season. I'm not interested in spending another winter supporting just a business. I don't need a "hockey fix", I want to devote my time to supporting a team that at least competes. I love how the team is so hard-working but after more than a decade, this is the last season putting money into someone's bank account with no returns on the ice.
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Post by spik on Feb 27, 2022 16:30:30 GMT
Why do Panthers game reports either not appear or keep disappearing from the website and where is the league table shown ? Do you think it’s because they keep losing ! I believe the league table was on the main front page. Its been taken over (it looks like) by all the Radio/TV/news item links. Don't believe they have a dedicated stats person just a link, it was, to the Elites stuff on the OS. The Elite Official stuff is all over the place (they will have their excuses) and now we have no notice as to what Elite checks have been made to original GRS match stats. Clearly no attention made to sheets from our game on 5th February, so we stats buffs on the outside have a big in tray awaiting jobs. can't understand it all. We start the season with a great well-communicated announcement of when changes have been made. To a long break with no announcements before we are told of the games having finally been done it seemed when more time was available . Now we are in that lull again not knowing what's happening. Events detail on the OS don't tally with the GRS as they don't tally with player stats etc... As regards the Panthers site though, I strongly believe I know of three people who are keen enough to supply information and updated stats to the club. Their website is far better than most I feel but again needs attention.
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Post by jemima66 on Feb 27, 2022 16:32:16 GMT
Can I just ask why we signed dave whistle,when there is a coach up the m1 that could and would make a difference with signings and the way we play has good credentials of winning trophies
Gerad adams
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Post by spik on Feb 27, 2022 16:36:34 GMT
Can I just ask why we signed dave whistle,when there is a coach up the m1 that could and would make a difference with signings and the way we play has good credentials of winning trophies Gerad adams Money.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Feb 27, 2022 16:38:30 GMT
Can I just ask why we signed dave whistle,when there is a coach up the m1 that could and would make a difference with signings and the way we play has good credentials of winning trophies Gerad adams Why sign his dad and let the best Brit netminder in the league (his son) go? Brining on Brits? Horse manure
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Feb 27, 2022 16:40:58 GMT
Can I just ask why we signed dave whistle,when there is a coach up the m1 that could and would make a difference with signings and the way we play has good credentials of winning trophies Gerad adams
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Post by jemima66 on Feb 27, 2022 17:04:58 GMT
When you say money has he already been asked and wanted too much or are you thinking he would want too much
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