|
|
Post by wannabe2 on Dec 6, 2021 22:13:27 GMT
He has a kind face, the kind you want to punch.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2021 22:29:42 GMT
Oh dear what a shame 🤣
|
|
|
|
Post by bobness on Dec 6, 2021 22:47:51 GMT
95% likely, that there Twitter says, to be done for the season.
ASD out for 8 weeks too.
Panthers not the worst off team for injuries by a long way.
|
|
iginla
Chick Zamick
Posts: 13,484
|
Post by iginla on Dec 6, 2021 23:10:22 GMT
95% likely, that there Twitter says, to be done for the season. ASD out for 8 weeks too. Panthers not the worst off team for injuries by a long way. True The difference being,as always,that the Steelers seem to be doing something about it whilst despite great adversity still sit at the top of the league ! |
|
|
|
Post by bobness on Dec 7, 2021 9:17:59 GMT
95% likely, that there Twitter says, to be done for the season. ASD out for 8 weeks too. Panthers not the worst off team for injuries by a long way. True The difference being,as always,that the Steelers seem to be doing something about it whilst despite great adversity still sit at the top of the league ! That is a fair point. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2021 10:40:16 GMT
95% likely, that there Twitter says, to be done for the season. ASD out for 8 weeks too. Panthers not the worst off team for injuries by a long way. True The difference being,as always,that the Steelers seem to be doing something about it whilst despite great adversity still sit at the top of the league ! And that's the difference between a team who refuses to sit on their laurals and a team who does just enough to be competitive as much as I hate everything Steelers! |
|
|
|
Post by jd on Dec 7, 2021 22:37:13 GMT
DeLuca moves to Trois-Rivières Lions
|
|
|
|
Post by ashfieldpanther on Dec 8, 2021 7:16:13 GMT
DeLuca moves to Trois-Rivières Lions Did he ever receive an actual ban rather than just a suspension ? If not is that why he's free to continue playing back home, or do the ECHL not recognise our punishment. |
|
|
|
Post by blackandgold73 on Dec 8, 2021 8:58:58 GMT
DeLuca moves to Trois-Rivières Lions Did he ever receive an actual ban rather than just a suspension ? If not is that why he's free to continue playing back home, or do the ECHL not recognise our punishment. Deluca is currently listed as having returned an AAF (adverse analytical finding, essentially a positive test) so is under a suspension until matters are resolved with UKAD (UK Anti-Doping). As such he is not currently banned from competition elsewhere. That would only occur if his AAF was, after investigation, upgraded to an ADRV (an Anti-Doping Rules Violation). That would mean he'd be found guilty either of taking something performance enhancing or that gives the impression of attempting to have the gamed the system (masking agents etc). Right now he's failed a drugs test (AAF) but he's not been given a doping ban (ADRV). Matters are still under investigation and these things take time to be finalised. Right now we only have Deluca's statement that it wasn't performance enhancing, but if correct it may stay as an AAF (suspension). Having returned a positive test his time at the Steelers was inevitably over, I suspect, as the team couldn't carry a blocked roster spot whilst he's under investigation and they wouldn't want the negative publicity. A fresh start with a new team abroad was probably inevitable whilst things progress |
|
iginla
Chick Zamick
Posts: 13,484
|
Post by iginla on Dec 8, 2021 10:14:28 GMT
Did he ever receive an actual ban rather than just a suspension ? If not is that why he's free to continue playing back home, or do the ECHL not recognise our punishment. Deluca is currently listed as having returned an AAF (adverse analytical finding, essentially a positive test) so is under a suspension until matters are resolved with UKAD (UK Anti-Doping). As such he is not currently banned from competition elsewhere. That would only occur if his AAF was, after investigation, upgraded to an ADRV (an Anti-Doping Rules Violation). That would mean he'd be found guilty either of taking something performance enhancing or that gives the impression of attempting to have the gamed the system (masking agents etc). Right now he's failed a drugs test (AAF) but he's not been given a doping ban (ADRV). Matters are still under investigation and these things take time to be finalised. Right now we only have Deluca's statement that it wasn't performance enhancing, but if correct it may stay as an AAF (suspension). Having returned a positive test his time at the Steelers was inevitably over, I suspect, as the team couldn't carry a blocked roster spot whilst he's under investigation and they wouldn't want the negative publicity. A fresh start with a new team abroad was probably inevitable whilst things progress Good explanation that. At least the Steelers fans will know he’s gone now seeing as the club are saying nothing. I don’t know,they bring out a new tea towel or bath mat set in the club shop and it’s all over the website and social media but something serious like losing a player to a drugs test and nothing ! |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2021 11:54:01 GMT
Deluca is currently listed as having returned an AAF (adverse analytical finding, essentially a positive test) so is under a suspension until matters are resolved with UKAD (UK Anti-Doping). As such he is not currently banned from competition elsewhere. That would only occur if his AAF was, after investigation, upgraded to an ADRV (an Anti-Doping Rules Violation). That would mean he'd be found guilty either of taking something performance enhancing or that gives the impression of attempting to have the gamed the system (masking agents etc). Right now he's failed a drugs test (AAF) but he's not been given a doping ban (ADRV). Matters are still under investigation and these things take time to be finalised. Right now we only have Deluca's statement that it wasn't performance enhancing, but if correct it may stay as an AAF (suspension). Having returned a positive test his time at the Steelers was inevitably over, I suspect, as the team couldn't carry a blocked roster spot whilst he's under investigation and they wouldn't want the negative publicity. A fresh start with a new team abroad was probably inevitable whilst things progress Good explanation that. At least the Steelers fans will know he’s gone now seeing as the club are saying nothing. I don’t know,they bring out a new tea towel or bath mat set in the club shop and it’s all over the website and social media but something serious like losing a player to a drugs test and nothing ! That's par for the course with all things eihl mate. Anything serious they bury their heads in the sand but when it's squeezing money out of the fanbases they milk it !! |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2021 11:55:07 GMT
Did he ever receive an actual ban rather than just a suspension ? If not is that why he's free to continue playing back home, or do the ECHL not recognise our punishment. Deluca is currently listed as having returned an AAF (adverse analytical finding, essentially a positive test) so is under a suspension until matters are resolved with UKAD (UK Anti-Doping). As such he is not currently banned from competition elsewhere. That would only occur if his AAF was, after investigation, upgraded to an ADRV (an Anti-Doping Rules Violation). That would mean he'd be found guilty either of taking something performance enhancing or that gives the impression of attempting to have the gamed the system (masking agents etc). Right now he's failed a drugs test (AAF) but he's not been given a doping ban (ADRV). Matters are still under investigation and these things take time to be finalised. Right now we only have Deluca's statement that it wasn't performance enhancing, but if correct it may stay as an AAF (suspension). Having returned a positive test his time at the Steelers was inevitably over, I suspect, as the team couldn't carry a blocked roster spot whilst he's under investigation and they wouldn't want the negative publicity. A fresh start with a new team abroad was probably inevitable whilst things progress Exactly..surely if he's failed a dope test then it's a ban worldwide! All abit confusing |
|
gordie
Jade Galbraith
Posts: 68
|
Post by gordie on Dec 8, 2021 12:31:12 GMT
The EIHL already have a DOPS panel. I wonder if they will have to introduce a DOPES one.
I'll get my coat...
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2021 12:39:03 GMT
Panthers have signed some guy out of Aldi.. I mean Uni!
They say he replaces Stevie Lee who is on IR .. this fella is a forward 🤦
|
|
|
|
Post by bobness on Dec 8, 2021 12:43:32 GMT
Panthers have signed some guy out of Aldi.. I mean Uni! They say he replaces Stevie Lee who is on IR .. this fella is a forward 🤦 Thow, who is a D, was signed as cover for Carozza, who is a forward. Swings and roundabouts. |
|
|
|
Post by blackandgold73 on Dec 8, 2021 12:47:04 GMT
Deluca is currently listed as having returned an AAF (adverse analytical finding, essentially a positive test) so is under a suspension until matters are resolved with UKAD (UK Anti-Doping). As such he is not currently banned from competition elsewhere. That would only occur if his AAF was, after investigation, upgraded to an ADRV (an Anti-Doping Rules Violation). That would mean he'd be found guilty either of taking something performance enhancing or that gives the impression of attempting to have the gamed the system (masking agents etc). Right now he's failed a drugs test (AAF) but he's not been given a doping ban (ADRV). Matters are still under investigation and these things take time to be finalised. Right now we only have Deluca's statement that it wasn't performance enhancing, but if correct it may stay as an AAF (suspension). Having returned a positive test his time at the Steelers was inevitably over, I suspect, as the team couldn't carry a blocked roster spot whilst he's under investigation and they wouldn't want the negative publicity. A fresh start with a new team abroad was probably inevitable whilst things progress Exactly..surely if he's failed a dope test then it's a ban worldwide! All abit confusing Right now he's failed a drugs screening test. That's the extent of things. His B sample will still have to be tested, and an investigation done. Some over the counter cough medication would see you record an AAF. So would recreational drugs: but unless they're considered to be giving you a performance advantage that would just mean you'd been stupid and been caught doing something you shouldn't have. You wouldn't expect a standard drugs investigation and then conviction on a civilian to all be concluded in two weeks would you? Competitive doping has to be proved. Failing a drug screening is not the same thing. It's only stage one of a process that ultimately may not even go beyond that stage. Right now nobody has any public information even on what the substance is. UKAD will do the rest of their work and if appropriate an ADRV ban would be issued. Imagine a rugby player snorts coke during the international break, then he could well fail his next drug screening on his return to competition. Many many sportspeople have failed for recreational drugs over the years. Doesn't mean they get banned the moment they fail the screening. *What* they took, how, and why are often far more important than the initial AAF. It's one reason why Steelers have said nothing. The case is ongoing. So they can't and shouldn't, as anything they say might prejudice the process or the outcome and potentially see them get into trouble with UKAD which no team can afford. The right to due process exists for players too. Deluca was keen to stress it was for a non performance enhancing substance because he knew he had to get his word out so teams might consider him during the process |
|
|
|
Post by spik on Dec 8, 2021 13:00:12 GMT
More the fool the new club for signing him?
Or just release him if found positive on the count of using substance?
|
|
|
|
Post by ashfieldpanther on Dec 8, 2021 13:03:37 GMT
More the fool the new club for signing him? Or just release him if found positive on the count of using substance? they signed four forwards at the same time so probably just hedging their bets. |
|
gordie
Jade Galbraith
Posts: 68
|
Post by gordie on Dec 8, 2021 13:04:35 GMT
If I'm not mistaken, but didn't he announce he had failed a test just after the Continental Cup. If so, would it be the IIHF and not EIHL who have initiated his suspension. If IIHF, then I would of thought that he would be suspended by all USA leagues until he decides if sample B should be tested, which has to be within 21 days of sample A. Then if that is positive he would have to appear at disciplinary committee in Zurich (or by video link)
|
|
|
|
Post by blackandgold73 on Dec 8, 2021 13:15:06 GMT
More the fool the new club for signing him? Or just release him if found positive on the count of using substance? They're a brand new franchise in their first season from what I remember so there's zero reputational brand damage at this stage in hiring a goal scorer who potentially has a "bad boy" image down the road. At worst he'd be one season and gone and they could claim naivety. They fact they've taken him on at all says to me they don't possibly expect anything further too develop. And if he was ultimately given an ADRV they'd release him, say "he told us it was non performance enhancing" and do so with no consequences. Either way, in the meantime they get his goals. If he's just been a naughty boy then they get a goal scorer keen to remake his image in a new league and who, if he's successful, may well be loyal to the team in subsequent seasons out of gratitude. Let's be honest we've had a few players come to the UK over the years looking for a new start for a variety of reasons. |
|
|
|
Post by blackandgold73 on Dec 8, 2021 13:20:16 GMT
More the fool the new club for signing him? Or just release him if found positive on the count of using substance? they signed four forwards at the same time so probably just hedging their bets. Only two of the four were forwards, and the other three players were only loan deal signings so don't think he's a hedging their bets signing. He's the only one permanently added to their books of the four |
|
|
|
Post by kievthegreat on Dec 8, 2021 15:25:08 GMT
Fun fact, cannabis is legally available for recreational use in Quebec.
Just an interesting fact I thought to share.
|
|
langer
Jade Galbraith
Posts: 59 
|
Post by langer on Dec 8, 2021 15:37:04 GMT
Cannabis is legally available for recreational and medicinal use in all of Canada.
|
|
|
|
Post by ashfieldpanther on Dec 8, 2021 15:37:22 GMT
they signed four forwards at the same time so probably just hedging their bets. Only two of the four were forwards, and the other three players were only loan deal signings so don't think he's a hedging their bets signing. He's the only one permanently added to their books of the four stand corrected. |
|
iginla
Chick Zamick
Posts: 13,484
|
Post by iginla on Dec 8, 2021 16:53:36 GMT
More the fool the new club for signing him? Or just release him if found positive on the count of using substance? They're a brand new franchise in their first season from what I remember so there's zero reputational brand damage at this stage in hiring a goal scorer who potentially has a "bad boy" image down the road. At worst he'd be one season and gone and they could claim naivety. They fact they've taken him on at all says to me they don't possibly expect anything further too develop. And if he was ultimately given an ADRV they'd release him, say "he told us it was non performance enhancing" and do so with no consequences. Either way, in the meantime they get his goals. If he's just been a naughty boy then they get a goal scorer keen to remake his image in a new league and who, if he's successful, may well be loyal to the team in subsequent seasons out of gratitude. Let's be honest we've had a few players come to the UK over the years looking for a new start for a variety of reasons. The sheer fact that DeLuca has travelled back to Canada and signed for another team would suggest to me that both he and the Steelers already know that it probably wasn’t cough medicine ! |
|
