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Post by wannabe2 on Apr 8, 2020 17:45:15 GMT
Of course I am oh great one.
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Post by Jord v4 on Apr 8, 2020 17:52:53 GMT
Sorry, I'm not having Pidge claiming credit for anything. He was just as short sighted as others at the very beginning.
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Post by iginla on Apr 8, 2020 19:57:03 GMT
You don’t get my point, I am not talking about Cardiff, my reference was towards Storm, Flyers, Stars. Close them down for 12/18 months and that’s the end 3 good teams. They would close and be another Durham, Edinburgh, Hull, etc. Arenas don’t have that problem, they are pretty self sufficient. Unfortunately the smaller teams in rinks are going to see the other side of the coin and the downside of playing in to all extents “their own” rink where they have a lot of clout and control. The arena teams meanwhile have the downside every year of playing on ice to which they are treated like second rate tenants and not such good things happen or games are moved etc at the drop of a hat just because a concert or something else crops up. It’s just the way it is I’m afraid.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Apr 8, 2020 19:59:44 GMT
You don’t get my point, I am not talking about Cardiff, my reference was towards Storm, Flyers, Stars. Close them down for 12/18 months and that’s the end 3 good teams. They would close and be another Durham, Edinburgh, Hull, etc. Arenas don’t have that problem, they are pretty self sufficient. Unfortunately the smaller teams in rinks are going to see the other side of the coin and the downside of playing in to all extents “their own” rink where they have a lot of clout and control. The arena teams meanwhile have the downside every year of playing on ice to which they are treated like second rate tenants and not such good things happen or games are moved etc at the drop of a hat just because a concert or something else crops up. It’s just the way it is I’m afraid. On top of that we don’t spend on players, cut import limits and mid season signing limits to keep the small teams happy too
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Post by kievthegreat on Apr 9, 2020 10:00:05 GMT
Okay yes fine but those venues are run by huge companies that can handle downtime’s, and will have the clout to carry on, where as Joe Bloggs who is living from hand to mouth, is going to suffer big time. This league with 5/6 teams won’t exist. Sheffield and Nottingham are owned by the council. The operating companies aren't very (if at all) profitable so it's not like they are in a particularly better financial position. I think the thing likely to save rinks and arenas is if they are too big to fail. I mean Cardiff just built their rink, they're not gonna let it close and council would step in. Nottingham, Sheffield, Belfast arenas would probably be in the same boat because of size. It's the Manchester's of this world to worry about, an originally temporary rink still standing long past it's sell by date. Maybe even the Clan given all the problems with Intu before the pandemic , they could end up homeless. It's worse a level down. Several rinks are already on their last legs and even if there are currently proposals to make repairs or replace these crumbling rinks. you can bet these financial decisions will be under close scrutiny. It's one thing spending a bit of cash to keep a very usable rink going. It's going to be hard to justify spending millions to build new ones.
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Post by Yotes on Apr 9, 2020 10:00:44 GMT
Okay yes fine but those venues are run by huge companies that can handle downtime’s, and will have the clout to carry on, where as Joe Bloggs who is living from hand to mouth, is going to suffer big time. This league with 5/6 teams won’t exist. The NIC's owned by the council isn't it? I'd imagine council budgets, already reduced greatly by austerity, are about to get battered. I'll not be at all surprised if the Elite League, in its current guise, has already breathed its last. But hockey will come back at some point, the audience will still be there and someone will want to make money off that.
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Post by John Casey on Apr 9, 2020 12:26:17 GMT
Okay yes fine but those venues are run by huge companies that can handle downtime’s, and will have the clout to carry on, where as Joe Bloggs who is living from hand to mouth, is going to suffer big time. This league with 5/6 teams won’t exist. The NIC's owned by the council isn't it? I'd imagine council budgets, already reduced greatly by austerity, are about to get battered. I'll not be at all surprised if the Elite League, in its current guise, has already breathed its last. But hockey will come back at some point, the audience will still be there and someone will want to make money off that. Some sort of Euro League formation if other leagues start losing teams or some sort of unifying with EPL (Or whatever that new 2nd tier league is called)
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Post by spik on Apr 9, 2020 14:22:47 GMT
The NIC's owned by the council isn't it? I'd imagine council budgets, already reduced greatly by austerity, are about to get battered. I'll not be at all surprised if the Elite League, in its current guise, has already breathed its last. But hockey will come back at some point, the audience will still be there and someone will want to make money off that. Some sort of Euro League formation if other leagues start losing teams or some sort of unifying with EPL (Or whatever that new 2nd tier league is called) As regards the second point/option. Many here won't like watching the type of hockey EPL has with limited imports etc but some type of hockey is far better than none. New teams to play, however the rinks would not be up to scratch for some with what comes with a night out.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Apr 9, 2020 14:49:55 GMT
Some sort of Euro League formation if other leagues start losing teams or some sort of unifying with EPL (Or whatever that new 2nd tier league is called) As regards the second point/option. Many here won't like watching the type of hockey EPL has with limited imports etc but some type of hockey is far better than none. New teams to play, however the rinks would not be up to scratch for some with what comes with a night out. I can promise you that I won’t be watching any EPL standard hockey
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2020 18:38:56 GMT
As regards the second point/option. Many here won't like watching the type of hockey EPL has with limited imports etc but some type of hockey is far better than none. New teams to play, however the rinks would not be up to scratch for some with what comes with a night out. I can promise you that I won’t be watching any EPL standard hockey Me too it will be horrendous lol..I have plenty of other things lined to keep me entertained. I don't expect to be out much this side of xmas tbh even if restrictions have been well lifted
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Post by wannabe2 on Apr 10, 2020 8:36:13 GMT
With a name like Pidge I thought you would like to spread your wings buddy.
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Post by michelle on Mar 24, 2021 11:32:33 GMT
What are the Panthers doing about the season tickets from 2019/2020?
It has been over a year and they have not said anything about the season-ticket. I think it is disgusting, fans are left in limbo wondering whether they are getting their money back on the remaining games, or getting games added to the season ticket when the league starts properly.
I do not want preseason games to be added as it was not intended to be used for that. It was intended to be used for cup games and league games, so I think they should honour should honour what it was originally intended for and the games that we missed should be added. Even if they gave you a percentage of the new season ticket off when you show your season ticket to the box office, that would be something.
So please sort this out Panthers and do the honourable thing. I’ll let us know what you are thinking for when we can go back, thank you.
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Post by Yotes on Mar 24, 2021 12:06:30 GMT
I would imagine it'll get taken care of when the season returns properly. Wouldn't be surprised if they come up with some junk up try and write them off though.
Either that or they're hoping you'll forget in the meantime.
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Post by bobness on Mar 24, 2021 17:37:35 GMT
Genuine question, what have teams in other sports done? Or other EIHL teams, for that matter? As for Panthers, there were 4 home games left out of 27, so whilst I can see that there is technically something "owing", it's not much in the scheme of things, something like 15%/£50. It's been over a year now, so it's not "make or break". If I were Panthers, I'd offer a discount of some description on the next full season renewal to "existing" ST holders. No renewal, we all move on. Sounds harsh, but...
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Post by EMB on Mar 24, 2021 17:42:18 GMT
I think Belfast announced no refund they've already taken season ticket money for this last season that hasn't happened, and they've rolled it over. I think my friend in Belfast was saying they were offered a voucher for a drink and a burger.
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Post by kievthegreat on Mar 24, 2021 17:45:37 GMT
Genuine question, what have teams in other sports done? Or other EIHL teams, for that matter? As for Panthers, there were 4 home games left out of 27, so whilst I can see that there is technically something "owing", it's not much in the scheme of things, something like 15%/£50. It's been over a year now, so it's not "make or break". If I were Panthers, I'd offer a discount of some description on the next full season renewal to "existing" ST holders. No renewal, we all move on. Sounds harsh, but... Thing is they've said in the past they'd have some free tickets for friendlies. It's a bit rich to go back on that and offer nothing. Personally I'd rather 10% of a season ticket or a voucher for however many £s off official merch. Maybe be inventive, say every season ticket holder gets 50% off a Jersey? That way they still get some money going to them and maybe tempt people who don't want to spend £70 on a Jersey, while 'compensating' season ticket holders.
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Mar 24, 2021 18:09:25 GMT
I'd be happy with a deal for the streaming matches
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Post by Bagheera on Mar 24, 2021 18:14:24 GMT
The fact they have given little update of late is dissapointing but I do know the club are working to give fans a number of options. There may be 5 or so options on the table and as a fan you can chose which option to take. It may be a choice of, merch voucher, money off tickets, donate money to charity etc.
If it goes the way suggested the club are giving a fair deal back. Timescales and comms just letting them down.
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Post by bobness on Mar 24, 2021 18:19:44 GMT
The fact they have given little update of late is dissapointing but I do know the club are working to give fans a number of options. There may be 5 or so options on the table and as a fan you can chose which option to take. It may be a choice of, merch voucher, money off tickets, donate money to charity etc. If it goes the way suggested the club are giving a fair deal back. Timescales and comms just letting them down. That sounds eminently sensible. Sooner that is "on the table" the better. Comms letting the Panthers organisation down? Surely not?
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Post by iginla on Mar 24, 2021 19:04:41 GMT
Genuine question, what have teams in other sports done? Or other EIHL teams, for that matter? As for Panthers, there were 4 home games left out of 27, so whilst I can see that there is technically something "owing", it's not much in the scheme of things, something like 15%/£50. It's been over a year now, so it's not "make or break". If I were Panthers, I'd offer a discount of some description on the next full season renewal to "existing" ST holders. No renewal, we all move on. Sounds harsh, but... It might only be £50 or £60 worth per fan but multiply that by about 3000 season tickets and you’re talking the thick end of some £150k. That’s a lot of money. No two ways about it they should be offering two or three options like many other sports teams have.
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Post by michelle on Apr 28, 2021 15:11:41 GMT
What are the Panthers doing about the season tickets from 2019/2020? It has been over a year and they have not said anything about the season-ticket. I think it is disgusting, fans are left in limbo wondering whether they are getting their money back on the remaining games, or getting games added to the season ticket when the league starts properly. I do not want preseason games to be added as it was not intended to be used for that. It was intended to be used for cup games and league games, so I think they should honour should honour what it was originally intended for and the games that we missed should be added. Even if they gave you a percentage of the new season ticket off when you show your season ticket to the box office, that would be something. So please sort this out Panthers and do the honourable thing. And let us know what you are thinking for when we can go back, thank you.
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Post by bobness on Apr 28, 2021 19:54:19 GMT
Michelle, I’d try contacting the Panthers office if I were you.
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Post by ashfieldpanther on May 2, 2021 13:10:33 GMT
I guess they'll tell us when there is a definite season to talk about.
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Post by iginla on May 2, 2021 17:17:20 GMT
I guess they'll tell us when there is a definite season to talk about. The money will be sitting in Panthers bank account instead of yours earning a bit of interest. Only a little bit of interest but better there than earning interest for you. Of course they’ll string it out as long as they can ! 😉
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Post by michelle on May 5, 2021 11:40:08 GMT
What about the remaining season ticket games from 2019/2020 they are not saying anything about honouring this latest post hampers have put out in the press it’s disgusting it does not even mention the games remaining on the season-ticket From what is owed to the fans who have season tickets Do they value our loyalty or not as fans I’m putting the season-ticket application out saying only renewals hey stupid as I want the money upfront tGary needs to sort this out and give some clarity are the fans and what is going on with the games that are owed on our season ticket if not we should alright to the league and boycott the hockey until they sort this out out
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