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Post by wannabe2 on May 9, 2020 19:50:46 GMT
The Steelers fans must be idiots shelling out for season tickets at this stage. Is their money 100% safe and completely refundable if anything untoward were to happen to the EIHL ? I’ve asked the Steelers that very question twice.....without reply ! The only way their money is safe is if they paid the full amount on a credit card.. like my wife has. I couldn't give a crap if they go under as I know I'll get my money back. Wannabe u clearly have more cash than sence fancy lending me a few hundred quid in these hard times? Sense. ??
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Post by wannabe2 on May 9, 2020 19:52:39 GMT
The Steelers fans must be idiots shelling out for season tickets at this stage. Is their money 100% safe and completely refundable if anything untoward were to happen to the EIHL ? I’ve asked the Steelers that very question twice.....without reply ! The only way their money is safe is if they paid the full amount on a credit card.. like my wife has. I couldn't give a crap if they go under as I know I'll get my money back. Wannabe u clearly have more cash than sence fancy lending me a few hundred quid in these hard times? Okay no problem.
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Post by Bagheera on May 9, 2020 22:27:38 GMT
At the minute i'm more than happy with tbe Panthers approach. Since the PR disaster of what to do with games left on last years ticket they've done pretty well. Sticking to old games, shirt auctions and supporting media/social media. They deserve some credit for not trying to flog season tickets in the current climate whilst a number of orther teams continue to do so. Go look at Steelers twitter for example. Any post they put out that isn't signing news has their fans having a hissy fit. They want signing news and that probably stema from the fact they've already paid out for STs. Agreed Bagheera, it wasn't a criticism, more an observation/understanding of the current situ. I didn't think you were critisising. Your post was more an opportunity for me to make a point id been mulling over this week after reading various posts on social media the last few days. More of an agreement with your post. 😁
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Post by Jord v4 on May 9, 2020 22:50:39 GMT
Agreed Bagheera, it wasn't a criticism, more an observation/understanding of the current situ. I didn't think you were critisising. Your post was more an opportunity for me to make a point id been mulling over this week after reading various posts on social media the last few days. More of an agreement with your post. 😁 Ah apologies for misreading my friend.
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Post by iginla on May 15, 2020 11:56:37 GMT
I see from Clans lengthy coming season update statement it could be a case of showing live games on webcast from a basically empty stadium. Amazing how webcasts suddenly become a distinct possibility when needs be ! Half of me thinks good idea,the other half thinks cobblers to em if you can’t show them unless you’re forced into it.
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Post by Jord v4 on May 15, 2020 12:50:01 GMT
Under current circumstances it's the only plausible idea. How webcast revunues can cover certain teams costs I'm not so sure but I doubt very much there will be fans in any stadiums for any sports until 2021 at the very earliest.
Seems the only logical choice to me.
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Post by wgray on May 15, 2020 13:36:37 GMT
Under current circumstances it's the only plausible idea. How webcast revunues can cover certain teams costs I'm not so sure but I doubt very much there will be fans in any stadiums for any sports until 2021 at the very earliest. Seems the only logical choice to me. If we have a season without anyone in attendance then the fans of all teams are going to have to be generous, that’s if we want to see a good level of hockey.
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Post by Jord v4 on May 15, 2020 13:44:42 GMT
Under current circumstances it's the only plausible idea. How webcast revunues can cover certain teams costs I'm not so sure but I doubt very much there will be fans in any stadiums for any sports until 2021 at the very earliest. Seems the only logical choice to me. If we have a season without anyone in attendance then the fans of all teams are going to have to be generous, that’s if we want to see a good level of hockey. Well yes... I can only see the rich or generous owned clubs surviving, that's in all sports. Expect many of the weaker financed orgs. to fold or at least be in big trouble.
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Post by Yotes on May 15, 2020 14:39:18 GMT
Could presumably save money along the way too, ourselves and Sheffield could play out of the smaller venues we have access to potentially? No need for concourse staff and stewarding etc.
It's not going to make up for no fans in a 7k arena, but if they're determined to play, they might be able to muddle through until restrictions can be fully released.
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Post by Jord v4 on May 15, 2020 15:32:16 GMT
A season ticket paying for free home webcasts is logical. I would question how many regular season ticket owners would take part in that though, can any of you here advise if you would...?
Plus you then miss all the casuals who fill out the Sheff games, there's no way they are paying continually for a webcast.
It doesn't look financially plausible on the surface, maybe only to certain very well run orgs. I can only see limited resources spent on rosters by the majority which will lead to a weakened product & a potentially farcical outcome.
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Post by wgray on May 15, 2020 16:38:15 GMT
A season ticket paying for free home webcasts is logical. I would question how many regular season ticket owners would take part in that though, can any of you here advise if you would...? Plus you then miss all the casuals who fill out the Sheff games, there's no way they are paying continually for a webcast. It doesn't look financially plausible on the surface, maybe only to certain very well run orgs. I can only see limited resources spent on rosters by the majority which will lead to a weakened product & a potentially farcical outcome. If a webcast season ticket is the only option then I’d take that. I don’t intend for this post to be a dig at the Panthers, but right now it would be in the clubs interest to have a supporters club set up. If there was one it could have raised additional funds towards next season and organised something in return for those that have shown their generosity. Hopefully we hear some news from the club and league soon.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2020 17:52:46 GMT
Let's be honest things will inevitably go tits up ! .. things don't look good
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Post by The Flying Shirt on May 15, 2020 19:14:14 GMT
Let's be honest things will inevitably go tits up ! .. things don't look good Social distancing is impossible in an arena. Even if you sat 2 metres apart how could you stop people getting up and trying to get past you (mostly) in breaks in play or end of periods? Toilets would be impossible and with the speed of the bar staff only two people would get served during the breaks. It would even take an hour to empty the place at the end of the game which would be a fire hazard issue. It's impossible unless you are not bothered about social distancing. Simple glaringly obvious fact is that it isn't going to happen on so many levels.
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Post by Jord v4 on May 15, 2020 19:29:39 GMT
Let's be honest things will inevitably go tits up ! .. things don't look good Social distancing is impossible in an arena. Even if you sat 2 metres apart how could you stop people getting up and trying to get past you (mostly) in breaks in play or end of periods? Toilets would be impossible and with the speed of the bar staff only two people would get served during the breaks. It would even take an hour to empty the place at the end of the game which would be a fire hazard issue. It's impossible unless you are not bothered about social distancing. Simple glaringly obvious fact is that it isn't going to happen on so many levels. There's no chance that arena is opening this year. Absolutely zero. Webcasts are the immediate future.
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Post by spik on May 15, 2020 20:33:35 GMT
I heard the club were calling Rob of 'trust' fame. But he's social distanced himself for bans sake.
No, the club will have to agree with all the others and Elite to share the spoils. Everyone in with the deal to share the profits in some sort of survival scheme? Is making a profit possible for all in some sort of combined share out idea. Smaller clubs getting a bigger portion to stay alive. Or have I been drinking again? I remember something happening like this before to save one in the league.
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Post by iginla on May 15, 2020 20:55:42 GMT
Social distancing is impossible in an arena. Even if you sat 2 metres apart how could you stop people getting up and trying to get past you (mostly) in breaks in play or end of periods? Toilets would be impossible and with the speed of the bar staff only two people would get served during the breaks. It would even take an hour to empty the place at the end of the game which would be a fire hazard issue. It's impossible unless you are not bothered about social distancing. Simple glaringly obvious fact is that it isn't going to happen on so many levels. There's no chance that arena is opening this year. Absolutely zero. Webcasts are the immediate future. I wonder if Guildfords technical wiring or signal problems previously preventing them from doing webcasts will suddenly,somehow miraculously be overcome. Something tells me they will ! 🤣🤣
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Post by Jord v4 on May 15, 2020 21:22:27 GMT
There's no chance that arena is opening this year. Absolutely zero. Webcasts are the immediate future. I wonder if Guildfords technical wiring or signal problems previously preventing them from doing webcasts will suddenly,somehow miraculously be overcome. Something tells me they will ! 🤣🤣 They are no doubt working on it right now, alone, of course.
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Post by iginla on May 15, 2020 21:53:22 GMT
I wonder if Guildfords technical wiring or signal problems previously preventing them from doing webcasts will suddenly,somehow miraculously be overcome. Something tells me they will ! 🤣🤣 They are no doubt working on it right now, alone, of course. Hahahahahaha Somehow I thought they might be. What a load of cobblers that previous excuse was.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2020 19:01:15 GMT
They are no doubt working on it right now, alone, of course. Hahahahahaha Somehow I thought they might be. What a load of cobblers that previous excuse was. It's not cobblers at all, when the leisure centre was built prior to the internet being launched, there was no provision made to lay the necessary cables. The company I work for has done live boxing streams from the Spectrum, due to having no hard-wired internet access (unless we ran a cable to the reception which wasn't possible due to H&S) we used 4G boxes to transmit the signal. Essentially the boxes turns the 4G capabilities into an internet feed that can be used. The Flames could invest in the same boxes in order to live stream from the Spectrum.
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Post by iginla on May 16, 2020 19:51:28 GMT
Hahahahahaha Somehow I thought they might be. What a load of cobblers that previous excuse was. It's not cobblers at all, when the leisure centre was built prior to the internet being launched, there was no provision made to lay the necessary cables. The company I work for has done live boxing streams from the Spectrum, due to having no hard-wired internet access (unless we ran a cable to the reception which wasn't possible due to H&S) we used 4G boxes to transmit the signal. Essentially the boxes turns the 4G capabilities into an internet feed that can be used. The Flames could invest in the same boxes in order to live stream from the Spectrum. Indeed my point. Guildford could have done webcasts if they had previously wanted to,we have always been lead to believe though that it just wasn’t possible from the Spectrum. Somehow now in the current climate,one guesses they will suddenly want to do them.
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Post by Jord v4 on May 16, 2020 20:10:28 GMT
For any decent league it would be a stipulation. Perhaps anyway.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2020 20:48:48 GMT
Doing webcasts won't be enough to keep clubs afloat anyway. It just isn't financially viable. Unless 5000 log in every week at 20 quid a stream. In reality no more than a few hundred will. It's not great to watch live at the rinks these days let alone on a tv screen !
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Post by wgray on May 16, 2020 23:02:43 GMT
Doing webcasts won't be enough to keep clubs afloat anyway. It just isn't financially viable. Unless 5000 log in every week at 20 quid a stream. In reality no more than a few hundred will. It's not great to watch live at the rinks these days let alone on a tv screen ! Next season is going to rely on fans being generous, I hope you’re wrong and people realise this.
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Post by wannabe2 on May 17, 2020 9:24:27 GMT
Doing webcasts won't be enough to keep clubs afloat anyway. It just isn't financially viable. Unless 5000 log in every week at 20 quid a stream. In reality no more than a few hundred will. It's not great to watch live at the rinks these days let alone on a tv screen ! You say it’s not great to watch at rinks these days, but attendances at many rinks for a long time has been good. I have enjoyed most games I have watched, along with many others and have missed it big time. Stay safe all.
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Post by iginla on May 17, 2020 9:38:26 GMT
Did you see the German football in an empty stadium yesterday ? Oh dear it was poor, goal scored....virtual silence ! Hockey would be just the same, after maybe a couple of webcasts I reckon a lot of people wouldn’t bother watching anymore.
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