iaincd
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Post by iaincd on Dec 31, 2019 19:59:41 GMT
Players who actually cared would have won that game- fans are being mugged off by half hearted players who were too lazy to throw some big hits and get at them
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Post by Bagheera on Dec 31, 2019 20:19:25 GMT
Players who actually cared would have won that game- fans are being mugged off by half hearted players who were too lazy to throw some big hits and get at them You've posted similar 3 times now. I have to say I disagree. 1 or 2 dont quite give enough. Effort wasn't the issue tonight though, just the inability to put the puck in the net.
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Post by Higgy on Dec 31, 2019 20:24:17 GMT
Players who actually cared would have won that game- fans are being mugged off by half hearted players who were too lazy to throw some big hits and get at them Half hearted? Last season maybe but this year? They put in a lot of effort but the end product isn't always there. There were a number of big hits tonight but the modern game doesn't create many chances for hits like there used to be.
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Post by nottinghamsenator on Dec 31, 2019 21:59:24 GMT
The only thing lacking was finish, not effort. This side rarely turns out halfhearted displays like their counterparts did last year. Sheffield sucked up the pressure and punished us for not taking our chances. Like they do seemingly 7 out of every 10.
Our finishing has cost us dear in a lot of games this year, and I agree its largely through overplay.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Dec 31, 2019 22:29:13 GMT
Players who actually cared would have won that game- fans are being mugged off by half hearted players who were too lazy to throw some big hits and get at them If you score goals you put the opposition under pressure. You don't score goals and you are constantly under pressure. Herr can't do it all himself and we DON'T have an out and out goalscorer (DAB, Guptill, etc) so we struggle just pretty much in that one and only area.
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Post by wolfmac on Dec 31, 2019 22:58:00 GMT
Now 23 wins for Steelers in the last 30 games against Panthers. Says something beyond players and management. Mental block? Do they have Panthers’ number that thoroughly?
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Post by Higgy on Dec 31, 2019 23:20:17 GMT
Now 23 wins for Steelers in the last 30 games against Panthers. Says something beyond players and management. Mental block? Do they have Panthers’ number that thoroughly? That is a crazy stat...how depressing
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Post by nottinghamsenator on Dec 31, 2019 23:22:05 GMT
Now 23 wins for Steelers in the last 30 games against Panthers. Says something beyond players and management. Mental block? Do they have Panthers’ number that thoroughly? It’s certainly an odd phenomenon given the turnover of players and coaches on both sides that the games are usually following some sort of pattern. I’ve lost count of the times we’ve been 3 up in Sheffield to lose late on or in OT. Whereas at home they normally soak up our offence and hit us efficiently 3-4 times. Because of the turnover, I don’t think it can be attributed to a mental block or them having our number. If playing staff was largely the same then maybe. Because both sides change so often but the results stay the same. It’s hard to pin down definitively, I certainly think Sheffield are much smarter than us tactically and have been for some years across our various coaches. One explanation maybe the precedent is set early in the Challenge Cup games and the mindset established in the playing cohort early in the year that we’ll struggle to beat them.
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Post by meadow on Dec 31, 2019 23:38:48 GMT
Now 23 wins for Steelers in the last 30 games against Panthers. Says something beyond players and management. Mental block? Do they have Panthers’ number that thoroughly? This season, I think its entirely possible that its becoming a mental hurdle. But the 30 games covers, what two and a half seasons these days? Thats four different head coaches, five starting goalies and approx 40 different players who have played those games in Pantherland so its hard to identify a constant on the playing side. Last year we were garbage, steelers more so, but they seemingly took pride in getting up for the panthers games whilst largely losing to everyone else. Instead we took pride in playing Cardiff and got some results against them. The 'Big Rivalry' seems to matter more to their org (or, mainly its outdated Brummie mouthpiece) than it does to ours.
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Post by wgray on Dec 31, 2019 23:58:27 GMT
Now 23 wins for Steelers in the last 30 games against Panthers. Says something beyond players and management. Mental block? Do they have Panthers’ number that thoroughly? It’s certainly an odd phenomenon given the turnover of players and coaches on both sides that the games are usually following some sort of pattern. I’ve lost count of the times we’ve been 3 up in Sheffield to lose late on or in OT. Whereas at home they normally soak up our offence and hit us efficiently 3-4 times. Because of the turnover, I don’t think it can be attributed to a mental block or them having our number. If playing staff was largely the same then maybe. Because both sides change so often but the results stay the same. It’s hard to pin down definitively, I certainly think Sheffield are much smarter than us tactically and have been for some years across our various coaches. One explanation maybe the precedent is set early in the Challenge Cup games and the mindset established in the playing cohort early in the year that we’ll struggle to beat them. The common factor amongst it all is the British core of Sheffield. What I mean by that is Sheffield’s has remained together, led by example against us and probably made sure the rest of their team follows their lead...
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Post by messier1851 on Jan 1, 2020 8:43:15 GMT
First time I’ve seen us in person this season, I thought the effort couldn’t really be faulted, especially considered it’s our third game in five nights.
It looked to me like we had a very set plan of attack. Work the puck to the outside, get traffic and shoot through a screen and while it worked twice we needed to be a little more flexible in the zone, goals are goals regardless of how they go in. Didn’t take our chances and that’s what did for us.
Thought Horvat brought some energy and I’d like to see him get a little more time on a line where he could show what he can do offensively.
Sad that Herr-cules couldn’t pull off the rescue act again.
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Post by cooperphil156 on Jan 1, 2020 9:14:02 GMT
Now 23 wins for Steelers in the last 30 games against Panthers. Says something beyond players and management. Mental block? Do they have Panthers’ number that thoroughly? That is a measure of where we are. Its season after season and now we are again looking at hoping to finish at the best 3rd. While Black and this gang are in charge you cannot see this changing. Ever since we won the treble we have not looked like challenging for the league. We will get the same platitudes and poo poo and lack of investment. Unfortunately I cannot see him going. After Herr you have to go a long way down in the league scorers to find the next Panthers player, in stark contrast to other teams.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2020 11:28:14 GMT
I'm not one to normally do match reviews, but have a few things to get off my chest.
Firstly, I thought our effort in the game was pretty good, although we looked very leggy in the 3rd. As a team, we grafted for the most part, and as said before, we did seem to have some sort of plan. In my view, Horvat probably had his best game, and deserved his MoM award. Matheson and Herr were reliable as ever. Carr made the big saves when needed, and was generally let down by sloppy defensive plays for the goals.
Bulmer. For the last couple of games, he doesn't seem quite right. He seems to lack his spark of a couple of weeks ago, and seems a step off the pace. Fick. Still not 100% convinced, but last night he was one of our better D, with several key interceptions and blocks. Connelley. Like Bulmer, he seemed somewhat subdued last night, and off his game. Hansen. Plenty of industry, but for the last few weeks, he has been a bit hit and miss for me. Talbert has had a couple of good weeks, and is starting to show what he can do. The rest played an average game for me.
Not trying to provide excuses, but heard a rumour from a so called reliable source that the team in general were not happy with the Christmas fixtures. Meaning they were hoping to celebrate Christmas or New Year, but with games Boxing day and New Years Day meaning this was not an option.
Finally, what is happening with our Power Play? It seems to be the same slow passing, taking extra touches and very few one-timers every game. It's far too predictable for opposition teams to predict. daft as this seems, we seem more lethal on the PK than the PP in my view.
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Post by puckit on Jan 1, 2020 12:17:21 GMT
Played in dribs and drabs for me, wasn't a 60 minute performance. Where was the noisy block? Weren't they allowed to bring drums etc to this game. Steelers where singing "your supposed to be at home" and to be honest I agreed with them. Crowd was flat a lot of the time. I know the performance probably played its part but maybe noisy 19 would have helped?!
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Post by PantherB on Jan 1, 2020 12:41:09 GMT
Played in dribs and drabs for me, wasn't a 60 minute performance. Where was the noisy block? Weren't they allowed to bring drums etc to this game. Steelers where singing "your supposed to be at home" and to be honest I agreed with them. Crowd was flat a lot of the time. I know the performance probably played its part but maybe noisy 19 would have helped?! The club didn't extend their trial until way after the game had gotten either very close to selling out or was sold out so they were all back in their original seats for the game. I imagine they'll be back in full voice on Saturday. Shame the club didn't extend it sooner, not like it was a difficult decision. The atmosphere on Boxing Day was pants, and yesterday was good at times then quiet at others. If we had the drummers for both games, two sell outs, the atmosphere could have been electric.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jan 1, 2020 12:52:51 GMT
Big difference in the past has been Jono Phillips, he IS the Steelers, he is the DNA and he is an excellent leader. If you know Jono you will know how important that is to a team. Present day the problem for us is lack of goals and that's even making a lot of games we win very hard work. Having single players score all over the team is nice and fluffy and romantic but the truth is that without the Graham's (with Ling), Guptill's, DAB's you are always going to struggle. Everyone has their job and at the moment Herr is trying to drag the team along behind him. If that shot had gone under the bar yesterday that goal would have been talked about for years. Wallace knows it and even more so Doucet will know it (it used to be his job) and that's the one area we are struggling with.
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Post by Robbie Nud on Jan 1, 2020 17:35:36 GMT
Frustrating game. Powerplay, godawful, why are they shot shy? Our powerplay consists of getting into the zone and make 20 passes before either a soft shot towards goal or an interception which gets cleared and we start over again. Times we spend 90 seconds of a powerplay in the offensive zone and may only make 2 shots. If this is how Wallace is coaching a powerplay to get them to pass and pass and pass until they get the perfect shot no wonder it is bad as it is, trying thinking the saying, 'when you put pucks on the net, good things will happen', or 'you will 100% of the shots you don't take'. We should have been more physical, lay a few hard hits to wind them up and put them off the game. they have enough players (Eberle, Connelly, vallerand) who will react to a hit and take a penalty.
With a bit of luck, Lacho will be off at the end of the season, he's had his testimonial year (ala Lee), because he brings little or nothing to the team. you know full well if he uses his speed and gets a breakaway, he will either lose control of the puck before shooting, or it will be a soft shot into the body of the NM.
Will we win today on the return, have to say I doubt it as not only do they seem to have our number, but seem to have mental advantage too.
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Post by Caesar on Jan 1, 2020 17:41:39 GMT
Frustrating game. Powerplay, godawful, why are they shot shy? Our powerplay consists of getting into the zone and make 20 passes before either a soft shot towards goal or an interception which gets cleared and we start over again. Times we spend 90 seconds of a powerplay in the offensive zone and may only make 2 shots. If this is how Wallace is coaching a powerplay to get them to pass and pass and pass until they get the perfect shot no wonder it is bad as it is, trying thinking the saying, 'when you put pucks on the net, good things will happen', or 'you will 100% of the shots you don't take'. We should have been more physical, lay a few hard hits to wind them up and put them off the game. they have enough players (Eberle, Connelly, vallerand) who will react to a hit and take a penalty. With a bit of luck, Lacho will be off at the end of the season, he's had his testimonial year (ala Lee), because he brings little or nothing to the team. you know full well if he uses his speed and gets a breakaway, he will either lose control of the puck before shooting, or it will be a soft shot into the body of the NM. Will we win today on the return, have to say I doubt it as not only do they seem to have our number, but seem to have mental advantage too. Lol, you do realise that return game is taking place now and we're 2 up with a period to go? 😂😂
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Post by bobness on Jan 1, 2020 18:25:26 GMT
Frustrating game. Powerplay, godawful, why are they shot shy? Our powerplay consists of getting into the zone and make 20 passes before either a soft shot towards goal or an interception which gets cleared and we start over again. Times we spend 90 seconds of a powerplay in the offensive zone and may only make 2 shots. If this is how Wallace is coaching a powerplay to get them to pass and pass and pass until they get the perfect shot no wonder it is bad as it is, trying thinking the saying, 'when you put pucks on the net, good things will happen', or 'you will 100% of the shots you don't take'. We should have been more physical, lay a few hard hits to wind them up and put them off the game. they have enough players (Eberle, Connelly, vallerand) who will react to a hit and take a penalty. With a bit of luck, Lacho will be off at the end of the season, he's had his testimonial year (ala Lee), because he brings little or nothing to the team. you know full well if he uses his speed and gets a breakaway, he will either lose control of the puck before shooting, or it will be a soft shot into the body of the NM. Will we win today on the return, have to say I doubt it as not only do they seem to have our number, but seem to have mental advantage too. Lol, you do realise that return game is taking place now and we're 2 up with a period to go? 😂😂 Hmmm... No worse team than Steelers to be in the lead against... 2 points though. Thank goodness for Herr.
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Post by bobness on Jan 1, 2020 18:31:05 GMT
The game sheet has 15 imports again?
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Post by Yotes on Jan 1, 2020 18:33:11 GMT
The game sheet has 15 imports again? It's not like we have rules about stuff like that.
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Post by Bagheera on Jan 1, 2020 18:39:00 GMT
The game sheet has 15 imports again? Rheault didnt play
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Post by bobness on Jan 1, 2020 18:43:01 GMT
The game sheet has 15 imports again? Rheault didnt play Thanks.
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Post by bobness on Jan 2, 2020 14:26:20 GMT
Everyone has their job and at the moment Herr is trying to drag the team along behind him. If that shot had gone under the bar yesterday that goal would have been talked about for years. Agreed, it was Fox-esque. And yet that appears to be missing from the highlights?
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