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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jun 25, 2017 9:33:14 GMT
There isn't an excuse. But it isn't anywhere near as important as you are making out. It's Twitter for crying out loud. Social media does not dictate the state of the team. Social media actually has no impact whatsoever on the state of the team. It's yet another excuse to bash the Panthers. It's boring. In an already unsustainable minority sport in 2017 trying desperately to hang on by its fingernails? No not really, could always try carrier pigeon I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2017 9:36:41 GMT
There isn't an excuse. But it isn't anywhere near as important as you are making out. It's Twitter for crying out loud. Social media does not dictate the state of the team. Social media actually has no impact whatsoever on the state of the team. It's yet another excuse to bash the Panthers. It's boring. Unfortunately the impression the Panthers give out isn't a positive one, they only have themselves to blame most of the time.
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Post by dill1015 on Jun 25, 2017 10:53:47 GMT
I want to get a few things off my chest here: Anyone who says GM, CN or Calum aren't entitled to a holiday are being absolutely absurd. Everyone has a right to a break from work. I imagine a lot of us are taking time off at some point during the season for a hockey game. Does that mean you I am 100% certain that CN or GM will still be dealing with players and contracts during that time. But regardless of your thoughts, they have a life to live outside of this club. All well and good saying this from our perspective but your boss says you can't have a holiday, you'd be kicking off. Calum shouldn't have to deal with social media on holiday. Fact. When he's off, someone else needs to step up. They haven't. Not his fault that lies at the clubs feet. It's a very poor effort from the club on all social media fronts and has been for a long time. Until that's taken seriously, this is going to keep happening. We've all sat and moaned about it and it has improved but the caps are destroying us with content already. It's easy to get right if you get someone at the very top who actually understands it's importance. Also, Pidge use of the M word isn't acceptable on here. I don't care whether you agree, disagree or even care that I don't think it's acceptable. Final decision is it's not and all posts with that in are going to be deleted. I'm currently moderating in the back ground a lot but some of this has really riled me up. I have my own concerns about the team and singing top players but we're no further ahead of Cardiff and they seem to be replacing players as well so in fact, are we actually that far off? They've not even got key Brits signed up yet! Even if they sign the same imports, there is still red tape to go through regardless of if you've been here before or not. But to sit and bash the club at every opportunity perhaps need to take some context. I was going to say something about this. I personally (and im sure a lot of other posters would agree) am getting quite fed up with every single thread, pretty much without fail. Being taken over by a small minority of posters, to push thier own personal agenda. Hating the Panthers organisation. I was hoping that the moderators could be more active with deleting post that go wildly off topic and warning people to stay on topic. If people want to rant about the organisation they can make a new thread titled that way. I come on here to hear people thoughts on the team and have a disscussion. But im losing interest because i already know what im going to read. A handful of "in the know" individuals will bash Corey and the organisation and imply that im just a gulible sheep for not having the same point of view as them. Rant over. Thanks in advance mods. And just for the record i too have concerns about the club as a whole. And how recruitment has been so far.
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Post by ligs on Jun 25, 2017 11:52:07 GMT
dill1015 i completely agree. i know you mods are not paid etc but please try keep the "i think panthers are rubbish' "the organisation is poor"crew under abit of control. if people dont like panthers or the organisation that much then dont go to games and dont post. i am all for free speech but most of the posts on here the same and just boring. if you want the forum to flourish then pull the non topic posts or warn posters. otherwise you will just get the people who use the forum to get game threads and i am sure you dont want that. (and keep an eye on the supporters trust that i think are making inroads in to this 'rubbish' organisation).
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Post by grrm on Jun 25, 2017 12:05:05 GMT
Also agree, I am concerned that we appear to be struggling to recruit in time for Aug 7th, but the constant Panthers bashing really doesn't help the teams cause in it's quest to sign new players - why would good players want to come to play for fans who appear to constantly moan about everything??
All the twaddle about people not allowed to have a holiday is just that - twaddle; there would be plenty more moans if Corey wanted to have his holiday mid-season!
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Post by iginla on Jun 25, 2017 12:28:57 GMT
Depends what your end game is regarding what you post. Panthers would have you think they don't read the cage. But believe me,they do ! If everybody just sits back,says nothing and claps every time GM says clap,then this club will never ever change its poor attitude. It's changing a bit now though since Mr Black and the club took some heat. Would change have happened without that heat ? I very much doubt it. Social media would still be in the appalling state it was before, news would be even sparser,injury prone players would still be getting signed,Chris Lawrence and Carter etc would be back again next season and Panthers would probably still be languishing in 4th or 5th place again.
People are different. Some will accept rubbish and being taken for granted and others won't,hence differing views on things. But the one thing we all want is Panthers to win.
Very few people get anything by sitting back doing nothing in life, so sitting back saying nothing but how wonderful the Panthers are,when they clearly aren't will get the club nowhere.
Things are now changing slowly. Will it be enough,I don't think so from what we've seen so far this off season,but time will tell.
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Post by ligs on Jun 25, 2017 12:37:23 GMT
i rest my case.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2017 12:39:11 GMT
Depends what your end game is regarding what you post. Panthers would have you think they don't read the cage. But believe me,they do ! If everybody just sits back,says nothing and claps every time GM says clap,then this club will never ever change its poor attitude. It's changing a bit now though since Mr Black and the club took some heat. Would change have happened without that heat ? I very much doubt it. Social media would still be in the appalling state it was before, news would be even sparser,injury prone players would still be getting signed,Chris Lawrence and Carter etc would be back again next season and Panthers would probably still be languishing in 4th or 5th place again. People are different. Some will accept rubbish and being taken for granted and others won't,hence differing views on things. But the one thing we all want is Panthers to win. Very few people get anything by sitting back doing nothing in life, so sitting back saying nothing but how wonderful the Panthers are,when they clearly aren't will get the club nowhere. Things are now changing slowly. Will it be enough,I don't think so from what we've seen so far this off season,but time will tell. Would the Steelers fanbase accept the current attitude of the Panthers organisation ? That's what you need to ask yourselves, my brother in law (steeler) thinks it's a disgrace even starting training camp 1 man short let alone 3 and 4 , and on top of that charge full price. You know what he's right, the majority of the fanbase are pretty apathetic regarding this that's why most just come to expect this taken for granted.
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Post by iginla on Jun 25, 2017 13:00:03 GMT
What's wrong with my last post ? It's perfectly sensible,reasoned and not attacking anyone.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2017 13:09:04 GMT
What's wrong with my last post ? It's perfectly sensible,reasoned and not attacking anyone. People are very sensitive in modern society Iggy, easily upset at the slightest thing.
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Post by Mark Mac on Jun 25, 2017 13:43:14 GMT
What's wrong with my last post ? It's perfectly sensible,reasoned and not attacking anyone. People are very sensitive in modern society Iggy, easily upset at the slightest thing. How is that an example of someone being sensitive? If anything, you are someone who is "easily upset at the slightest thing" since you continuously whine about everything the Panthers does. Depends what your end game is regarding what you post. Panthers would have you think they don't read the cage. But believe me,they do ! If everybody just sits back,says nothing and claps every time GM says clap,then this club will never ever change its poor attitude. It's changing a bit now though since Mr Black and the club took some heat. Would change have happened without that heat ? I very much doubt it. Social media would still be in the appalling state it was before, news would be even sparser,injury prone players would still be getting signed,Chris Lawrence and Carter etc would be back again next season and Panthers would probably still be languishing in 4th or 5th place again. People are different. Some will accept rubbish and being taken for granted and others won't,hence differing views on things. But the one thing we all want is Panthers to win. Very few people get anything by sitting back doing nothing in life, so sitting back saying nothing but how wonderful the Panthers are,when they clearly aren't will get the club nowhere. Things are now changing slowly. Will it be enough,I don't think so from what we've seen so far this off season,but time will tell. 1. If they were so bothered by the Cage then the same big problems wouldn't re-occur. Considering so many fans complain about GM not listening to anyone I find it quite amazing that at the same time he pays attention to the Cage and that is the reason for improvements. 2. Don't claim that I accept rubbish because I couldn't care less about social media. 3. Don't claim that I "sit back saying nothing but how wonderful the Panthers are". I think you'll find that I have criticised the Panthers many times, but I only do it on things that actually matter. Social media doesn't matter! Social media posts are forgotten days if not hours after they appear.
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Post by wgray on Jun 25, 2017 13:45:18 GMT
What's wrong with my last post ? It's perfectly sensible,reasoned and not attacking anyone. People are very sensitive in modern society Iggy, easily upset at the slightest thing. no, people are fed up of the comments that are put on here, by the same people, giving the same negative points without discussing anything else. Everyone wants and knows that the club can do better, but just because people don't show their frustration constantly or have a more optimistic outlook doesn't mean that they should be belittled, the constant attacking and bad mouthing of the club does no good and makes the forum a boring place to come to, it needs to be toned down a bit
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Post by iginla on Jun 25, 2017 14:18:08 GMT
I couldn't give a stuff about social media. I don't do twitter or Facebook etc and never will. All I care about concerning Panthers is that they put the best team possible on the ice. The only news I care about concerns signings,players or the team, everything else is just spin and waffle that gets in the way of the important thing....the hockey.
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Post by dill1015 on Jun 25, 2017 14:19:28 GMT
People are very sensitive in modern society Iggy, easily upset at the slightest thing. no, people are fed up of the comments that are put on here, by the same people, giving the same negative points without discussing anything else. Everyone wants and knows that the club can do better, but just because people don't show their frustration constantly or have a more optimistic outlook doesn't mean that they should be belittled, the constant attacking and bad mouthing of the club does no good and makes the forum a boring place to come to, it needs to be toned down a bit Nail on the head! I give no weight to the opinion of some posters on here because they cant be objective at all. Im just tired of them clogging up every thread and driving away posters who would add to the discussion instead of watering it down to a single issue.
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Post by dill1015 on Jun 25, 2017 14:29:22 GMT
Depends what your end game is regarding what you post. Panthers would have you think they don't read the cage. But believe me,they do ! If everybody just sits back,says nothing and claps every time GM says clap,then this club will never ever change its poor attitude. It's changing a bit now though since Mr Black and the club took some heat. Would change have happened without that heat ? I very much doubt it. Social media would still be in the appalling state it was before, news would be even sparser,injury prone players would still be getting signed,Chris Lawrence and Carter etc would be back again next season and Panthers would probably still be languishing in 4th or 5th place again. People are different. Some will accept rubbish and being taken for granted and others won't,hence differing views on things. But the one thing we all want is Panthers to win. Very few people get anything by sitting back doing nothing in life, so sitting back saying nothing but how wonderful the Panthers are,when they clearly aren't will get the club nowhere. Things are now changing slowly. Will it be enough,I don't think so from what we've seen so far this off season,but time will tell. Oh look another "Im in the know, and your all stupid sheep for eating out the clubs hand" post. Your arrogance is astounding. And yet you constantly about how arrogant Corey is. Im a life long supporter of this club. And have put huges amounts into it. Dont tell me im willing to accept rubish and be taken for granted. Unlike some people i put my money where my mouth is. I didnt go to any home games (bar one with friends from out of town) post november last year. Because is was so disgusted with the on ice performance that month. I said i wouldnt go till players were cut. They weren't, so i didnt go. Instead i put that money into away games and webcasts. Money in others teams pockets. I take the bad parts of this club very seriously. But i can still be reasonable. Unlike yourself and a few others.
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Post by thebestpanthers on Jun 25, 2017 14:43:22 GMT
Amazing since dill1015's post that the negative comments from the usual suspects increase (if that were possible) - I hate to say it but "if you hate Panthers as much as your posts appear, then there is a choice now of another 11 options" I am sure you would not be missed as much as you would like to think you would - Bye,Bye.
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Post by iginla on Jun 25, 2017 15:33:02 GMT
Tell me. What is the difference between you (anybody) criticising the club and somebody else ? Because if we wanted to trawl back through posts,i bet it would show that probably at least 95% of regular posters have done so. And not just once either.
The way some people talk,anybody would think it was a sin to criticise. Plenty of my posts are non critical. I love the club,but I dislike a lot of the way it is run and am critical solely in the hope of change.
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Post by Shorty on Jun 25, 2017 15:49:46 GMT
But very few are positive. Even when the club does well or if it make a good signing. There is always a but or an if.
I think that's why so many people are fed up. Just about every thread it spreads to.
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Post by Mark Mac on Jun 25, 2017 15:51:11 GMT
I couldn't give a stuff about social media. I don't do twitter or Facebook etc and never will. All I care about concerning Panthers is that they put the best team possible on the ice. The only news I care about concerns signings,players or the team, everything else is just spin and waffle that gets in the way of the important thing....the hockey. So why criticise the social media guy going on holiday then?Oh, I know. It's because it's another reason to bash the club.
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Post by iginla on Jun 25, 2017 15:56:51 GMT
But very few are positive. Even when the club does well or if it make a good signing. There is always a but or an if. I think that's why so many people are fed up. Just about every thread it spreads to. When they make a good looking signing I'm happy to say so,I wish they were all good. Check what I said when we signed Garnett. I was happy apart from he's a tad older than would be ideal. Which is true,when you consider we signed a guy older than Wiikman and as old as Kowalski was even when he retired !
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Post by Shorty on Jun 25, 2017 16:01:17 GMT
Yes, and if or a but. You highlight my point.
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Post by brodeurfan1993 on Jun 25, 2017 16:01:28 GMT
What's wrong with my last post ? It's perfectly sensible,reasoned and not attacking anyone. People are very sensitive in modern society Iggy, easily upset at the slightest thing. Not really about the "modern era". It just gets tiring listening to you two moan on and on all the time. As someone who can't get to many home games, the media I have to follow the club is very limited. Between you two, and half of the panel that do the TCW podcasts, its just a constant moan-a-thon! Agree signings have been poors but geez just give it a rest. Take a holiday yourself and let go.....
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Post by iginla on Jun 25, 2017 16:05:31 GMT
I couldn't give a stuff about social media. I don't do twitter or Facebook etc and never will. All I care about concerning Panthers is that they put the best team possible on the ice. The only news I care about concerns signings,players or the team, everything else is just spin and waffle that gets in the way of the important thing....the hockey. So why criticise the social media guy going on holiday then?Oh, I know. It's because it's another reason to bash the club. It's not the bashing of Calum it's that the club twitter virtually stops when he's on holiday. You telling me either he couldn't fire off a few tweets or somebody else couldn't have taken over ? Somebody else CAN obviously tweet,because they did it today about Leigh Wood winning his boxing match.
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Post by Mark Mac on Jun 25, 2017 17:11:54 GMT
It's not the bashing of Calum it's that the club twitter virtually stops when he's on holiday. You telling me either he couldn't fire off a few tweets or somebody else couldn't have taken over ? Somebody else CAN obviously tweet,because they did it today about Leigh Wood winning his boxing match. But you don't care about social media so why is it a problem?
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Post by iginla on Jun 25, 2017 18:00:09 GMT
It's not the bashing of Calum it's that the club twitter virtually stops when he's on holiday. You telling me either he couldn't fire off a few tweets or somebody else couldn't have taken over ? Somebody else CAN obviously tweet,because they did it today about Leigh Wood winning his boxing match. But you don't care about social media so why is it a problem? Not twitter or Facebook I don't. Both cause more trouble than they're worth. I mean "news" proper news about what's happening. And not some filler guff about boxing either. What's boxing got to do with Panthers ! 🙄
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