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Post by PantherB on Jun 23, 2017 11:38:30 GMT
I believe Calum is away on holiday for an extended period so Social Media is back in the hands of Office Staff, hence the lack of anything communicative. But that's not an excuse for how poor it's been. It's as easy as a minute out of the day to tweet fan engagement kind of tweets, respond to tweets etc.. anyone with half a brain can do it. So lets see who can come up with the best 10 word max tweet on a none signing day, best of luck PS I look at Twitter but don't Tweet Even if it's a 'Get To Know ____' kind of tweet/article, I'd like to learn more about Zakharchenko and Mokshantsev so even if it's a small Q&A, it'd be nice.
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Post by PantherB on Jun 23, 2017 11:40:47 GMT
I believe Calum is away on holiday for an extended period so Social Media is back in the hands of Office Staff, hence the lack of anything communicative. But that's not an excuse for how poor it's been. It's as easy as a minute out of the day to tweet fan engagement kind of tweets, respond to tweets etc.. anyone with half a brain can do it. So 'twould appear that he's already bought into the organisations ethos then. I'm one of the Panthers biggest defenders but this stuff really irritates me because I do it for a living. Tad harsh on Calum, I know it's his job but he shouldn't be the only person in the office who can use Twitter, Facebook at a good standard. Plus with him being quite fresh out of uni, he's likely to want to spend summers travelling.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2017 12:26:34 GMT
So 'twould appear that he's already bought into the organisations ethos then. I'm one of the Panthers biggest defenders but this stuff really irritates me because I do it for a living. Tad harsh on Calum, I know it's his job but he shouldn't be the only person in the office who can use Twitter, Facebook at a good standard. Plus with him being quite fresh out of uni, he's likely to want to spend summers travelling. It's only harsh if he's under any restrictions, if there aren't any restrictions then it's just lazy given the amount of content available (including archive footage). Going on holiday doesn't wash with me either especially to the poor (and lack of) content over the last few weeks. Tools such as Hootsuite, Tweetdeck and the scheduling facility on Facebook where made for when people go on holiday - I can see why it would drive engagement down at a stretch but there should be a contingency plan in place for that, but it's no excuse for a lack of quality content.
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Post by iginla on Jun 23, 2017 16:51:27 GMT
So 'twould appear that he's already bought into the organisations ethos then. I'm one of the Panthers biggest defenders but this stuff really irritates me because I do it for a living. Tad harsh on Calum, I know it's his job but he shouldn't be the only person in the office who can use Twitter, Facebook at a good standard. Plus with him being quite fresh out of uni, he's likely to want to spend summers travelling. Spend his summers travelling ? Does he work full time or is he just yet another part timer. Does his Twitter not work while he's lazing on a sun bed or relaxing on the beach then ! # the club stops cos Calum's on holiday 🙄
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Post by PantherB on Jun 23, 2017 17:10:02 GMT
Tad harsh on Calum, I know it's his job but he shouldn't be the only person in the office who can use Twitter, Facebook at a good standard. Plus with him being quite fresh out of uni, he's likely to want to spend summers travelling. Spend his summers travelling ? Does he work full time or is he just yet another part timer. Does his Twitter not work while he's lazing on a sun bed or relaxing on the beach then ! # the club stops cos Calum's on holiday 🙄 Try sending an email at the weekend to anyone in the office and it's a generic 'Out of Office' reply I don't know about anyone else but I would not want to be spending my holiday tweeting and creating content for the club. The real issue is the fact no one else is capable of replicating the standards set by Calum, not Calum being on holiday! 10th of June he tweeted 'Toodles Nottingham, see you in 2 weeks #ByeByeTwitter #ByeByeFacebook #HelloEurope'. Employees are entitled to holiday, the last thing any employee wants to do whilst on holiday is work. It's up to the employer to get cover if it's required. It should be back to normal service this weekend/Monday anyway.
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Post by deke on Jun 23, 2017 17:47:28 GMT
When do we e reckon we we will actually get a big signing then? Last we heard from Corey it was a couple of days... Or longer. Essentially telling us nothing. Hopefully Corey will bring good some big guns out of the bag. I live in hope
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2017 17:56:57 GMT
Spend his summers travelling ? Does he work full time or is he just yet another part timer. Does his Twitter not work while he's lazing on a sun bed or relaxing on the beach then ! # the club stops cos Calum's on holiday 🙄 I don't know about anyone else but I would not want to be spending my holiday tweeting and creating content for the club. The real issue is the fact no one else is capable of replicating the standards set by Calum, not Calum being on holiday! As stated above, the creation of content (aside from breaking news obviously) should have been done BEFORE anyone went on holiday with the scheduling tools available - especially if nobody else is capable of covering to an acceptable standard.
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Post by EMB on Jun 23, 2017 18:27:10 GMT
Not wanting to add fuel to the fire but Corey is also away on holiday, back this weekend.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jun 23, 2017 18:30:55 GMT
Spend his summers travelling ? Does he work full time or is he just yet another part timer. Does his Twitter not work while he's lazing on a sun bed or relaxing on the beach then ! # the club stops cos Calum's on holiday 🙄 Try sending an email at the weekend to anyone in the office and it's a generic 'Out of Office' reply I don't know about anyone else but I would not want to be spending my holiday tweeting and creating content for the club. The real issue is the fact no one else is capable of replicating the standards set by Calum, not Calum being on holiday! 10th of June he tweeted 'Toodles Nottingham, see you in 2 weeks #ByeByeTwitter #ByeByeFacebook #HelloEurope'. Employees are entitled to holiday, the last thing any employee wants to do whilst on holiday is work. It's up to the employer to get cover if it's required. It should be back to normal service this weekend/Monday anyway. If I was the guy running the social media in the office and I left those hashtags before leaving to go on holiday I wouldn't be expecting my job when I got back. The problem is that the entire office is pretty much run David Brent style so really don't expect anything better to be honest.
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Post by pantherlee on Jun 23, 2017 18:32:34 GMT
Not wanting to add fuel to the fire but Corey is also away on holiday, back this weekend. Really. It was only a week ago he was saying he was hard at work recruiting on the phone on an hourly basis and and there would be signing news coming soon. A day or two later he's on holiday at the height of the recruiting season. Why didn't he have his holidays after the playoffs?
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Post by sevcik on Jun 23, 2017 18:51:43 GMT
Not wanting to add fuel to the fire but Corey is also away on holiday, back this weekend. Really. It was only a week ago he was saying he was hard at work recruiting on the phone on an hourly basis and and there would be signing news coming soon. That article was spin. It was probably the club just wanting to put a positive news article the website. The last couple of lines highlight the reality Corey is quoted as saying he has "no immanent signing news but that could change with one phone call" Calum is good..ish at his job. Afterall he told the son of one of the big sponsors of the Panthers (who also works for the club from time to time on game night) to not show anyone a video he took on his phone of Chris Lawrence p'd out of his head in the early hours of the morning when we had a game that evening. Trouble was said person showed it to at least four people that I know of. And yes I have seen said video. He would have been better off telling the guy to delete it.... Mr Moran is I'm sure mentoring him well in the ways of the club
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Post by PantherB on Jun 23, 2017 19:05:53 GMT
I don't know about anyone else but I would not want to be spending my holiday tweeting and creating content for the club. The real issue is the fact no one else is capable of replicating the standards set by Calum, not Calum being on holiday! As stated above, the creation of content (aside from breaking news obviously) should have been done BEFORE anyone went on holiday with the scheduling tools available - especially if nobody else is capable of covering to an acceptable standard. Youre limited in what content you can share if you do that. Can't respond to tweets Can't meet any requests The Goal of The Week stuff has continued somewhat however. It shouldn't have to be a case of one person having to use an automated system to keep the entire clubs social media alive.
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Post by PantherB on Jun 23, 2017 19:08:52 GMT
Try sending an email at the weekend to anyone in the office and it's a generic 'Out of Office' reply I don't know about anyone else but I would not want to be spending my holiday tweeting and creating content for the club. The real issue is the fact no one else is capable of replicating the standards set by Calum, not Calum being on holiday! 10th of June he tweeted 'Toodles Nottingham, see you in 2 weeks #ByeByeTwitter #ByeByeFacebook #HelloEurope'. Employees are entitled to holiday, the last thing any employee wants to do whilst on holiday is work. It's up to the employer to get cover if it's required. It should be back to normal service this weekend/Monday anyway. If I was the guy running the social media in the office and I left those hashtags before leaving to go on holiday I wouldn't be expecting my job when I got back. The problem is that the entire office is pretty much run David Brent style so really don't expect anything better to be honest. Its not great to see obviously but Panthers do have one of the more demanding, critical fan bases so it's going to be pretty demanding/stressful. But I get you, it's kinda like getting the middle finger shown at us.
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Post by iginla on Jun 23, 2017 19:34:02 GMT
Not wanting to add fuel to the fire but Corey is also away on holiday, back this weekend. Really. It was only a week ago he was saying he was hard at work recruiting on the phone on an hourly basis and and there would be signing news coming soon. A day or two later he's on holiday at the height of the recruiting season. Why didn't he have his holidays after the playoffs? Exactly One minute they're telling us the summer is the busiest time and they love it and the next they've all stuffed off on holiday ! 🙄 # not good enough
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Post by iginla on Jun 23, 2017 19:42:15 GMT
Really. It was only a week ago he was saying he was hard at work recruiting on the phone on an hourly basis and and there would be signing news coming soon. That article was spin. It was probably the club just wanting to put a positive news article the website. The last couple of lines highlight the reality Corey is quoted as saying he has "no immanent signing news but that could change with one phone call" Calum is good..ish at his job. Afterall he told the son of one of the big sponsors of the Panthers (who also works for the club from time to time on game night) to not show anyone a video he took on his phone of Chris Lawrence p'd out of his head in the early hours of the morning when we had a game that evening. Trouble was said person showed it to at least four people that I know of. And yes I have seen said video. He would have been better off telling the guy to delete it.... Mr Moran is I'm sure mentoring him well in the ways of the club Haha He also managed to very quickly delete the picture of the players bus leaving the arena for one road trip. But only after somebody pointed out that Lacho was in full view in the back window flicking a V sign at the photographer ! 🙄 # very professional
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2017 20:03:07 GMT
Really. It was only a week ago he was saying he was hard at work recruiting on the phone on an hourly basis and and there would be signing news coming soon. A day or two later he's on holiday at the height of the recruiting season. Why didn't he have his holidays after the playoffs? Exactly One minute they're telling us the summer is the busiest time and they love it and the next they've all stuffed off on holiday ! 🙄 # not good enough If Corey isn't on holiday, Moran is!! Wtf! Just because the season is over it doesn't mean down all tools and toss it off for 4 months which seems to happen with Panthers and Panthers only!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2017 20:52:18 GMT
As stated above, the creation of content (aside from breaking news obviously) should have been done BEFORE anyone went on holiday with the scheduling tools available - especially if nobody else is capable of covering to an acceptable standard. Youre limited in what content you can share if you do that. Can't respond to tweets Can't meet any requests The Goal of The Week stuff has continued somewhat however. It shouldn't have to be a case of one person having to use an automated system to keep the entire clubs social media alive. You're not limited to anything at all, you can literally schedule anything. Also if you want to get technical you can always respond to tweets and you can always meet requests - it's genuinely all about how much you care. I run a small (for now) digital marketing agency which mainly focuses on social media marketing and I respond to tweets and things on behalf of clients (so it's not even my company) at 11pm, 7am, if I'm out with friends or wherever because I care. I don't blame the person in charge of the social media though, culture comes from the top and that drum been beaten enough so I'm not going to get into that. One of the reasons I don't get mad about this stuff and let it get to me as some do is that it's not my problem (well not yet, give it 5 to 10 years and watch this space).
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Post by Rob Scott on Jun 23, 2017 21:01:25 GMT
Youre limited in what content you can share if you do that. Can't respond to tweets Can't meet any requests The Goal of The Week stuff has continued somewhat however. It shouldn't have to be a case of one person having to use an automated system to keep the entire clubs social media alive. You're not limited to anything at all, you can literally schedule anything. Also if you want to get technical you can always respond to tweets and you can always meet requests - it's genuinely all about how much you care. I run a small (for now) digital marketing agency which mainly focuses on social media marketing and I respond to tweets and things on behalf of clients (so it's not even my company) at 11pm, 7am, if I'm out with friends or wherever because I care. I don't blame the person in charge of the social media though, culture comes from the top and that drum been beaten enough so I'm not going to get into that. One of the reasons I don't get mad about this stuff and let it get to me as some do is that it's not my problem (well not yet, give it 5 to 10 years and watch this space). In a nutshell the club don't try anywhere near as hard as they could in loads of areas and I personally feel that we the fans deserve better. I'm not looking for anything massively dramatic I'd just like for us to try to be the best in everything we do. We're the biggest club in the UK and our efforts should reflect that.
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Post by ted logan on Jun 24, 2017 9:03:56 GMT
Lack of news? Here's some news for Panthers:-
12 teams in the league next season. The 'league table' on the OS (showing 0 games obviously) still shows 10.
Amateurish.
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Post by iginla on Jun 24, 2017 9:23:49 GMT
Same as the on ice roster still shows last years team. 🙄
Of course known fixtures are already up though. Wouldn't want to miss selling any tickets would they.
Come on Panthers. Get your bloody act together you bunch of amateurs !
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Post by Pies on Jun 25, 2017 5:28:23 GMT
I want to get a few things off my chest here:
Anyone who says GM, CN or Calum aren't entitled to a holiday are being absolutely absurd. Everyone has a right to a break from work. I imagine a lot of us are taking time off at some point during the season for a hockey game. Does that mean you I am 100% certain that CN or GM will still be dealing with players and contracts during that time. But regardless of your thoughts, they have a life to live outside of this club. All well and good saying this from our perspective but your boss says you can't have a holiday, you'd be kicking off. Calum shouldn't have to deal with social media on holiday. Fact. When he's off, someone else needs to step up. They haven't. Not his fault that lies at the clubs feet. It's a very poor effort from the club on all social media fronts and has been for a long time. Until that's taken seriously, this is going to keep happening. We've all sat and moaned about it and it has improved but the caps are destroying us with content already. It's easy to get right if you get someone at the very top who actually understands it's importance.
Also, Pidge use of the M word isn't acceptable on here. I don't care whether you agree, disagree or even care that I don't think it's acceptable. Final decision is it's not and all posts with that in are going to be deleted.
I'm currently moderating in the back ground a lot but some of this has really riled me up. I have my own concerns about the team and singing top players but we're no further ahead of Cardiff and they seem to be replacing players as well so in fact, are we actually that far off? They've not even got key Brits signed up yet! Even if they sign the same imports, there is still red tape to go through regardless of if you've been here before or not. But to sit and bash the club at every opportunity perhaps need to take some context.
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Post by Mark Mac on Jun 25, 2017 6:56:37 GMT
I've only read this page on this thread, but my god what a load of overreaction.
1. Social media guy should lose his job because he's on holiday and has hash tagged "bye bye Facebook" etc 2. They aren't allowed holidays 3. Holidays during the summer is wrong 4. They've said they're busy but we haven't seen evidence within the last few days.
Will everyone just calm down. All of the staff deserve a holiday, especially during the OFF-SEASON. This is just more of the usual bashing Panthers for the sake of it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2017 7:58:34 GMT
What's the excuse for lack of social media why Callum is away then ? Do you see Steelers, devils and Manchester stop tweeting for 2 weeks, I think the other day Cardiff tweeted more in 4 hours than Panthers have in 8 days !! Come on
I wait to see the fan reaction when we face chl teams end of August short benched and subsequently start the league season losing games due to lack of preparation then we 'll see if it was a over reaction, I like others will be proved right
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Post by Mark Mac on Jun 25, 2017 8:45:17 GMT
There isn't an excuse. But it isn't anywhere near as important as you are making out. It's Twitter for crying out loud. Social media does not dictate the state of the team. Social media actually has no impact whatsoever on the state of the team. It's yet another excuse to bash the Panthers. It's boring.
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Post by PantherB on Jun 25, 2017 9:27:33 GMT
What's the excuse for lack of social media why Callum is away then ? Do you see Steelers, devils and Manchester stop tweeting for 2 weeks, I think the other day Cardiff tweeted more in 4 hours than Panthers have in 8 days !! Come on I wait to see the fan reaction when we face chl teams end of August short benched and subsequently start the league season losing games due to lack of preparation then we 'll see if it was a over reaction, I like others will be proved right Devils and Steelers' Social Media stuff is ran by more than one person. They have quite a few office staff, most of which are good at Social Media. Storm have one dedicated person for their Social Media but I know he's employed as Social Media Manager for several organisations so he's doing stuff 24/7, even when home in Switzerland but there's a lot depending on him. Panthers have sucked in the last 2 weeks, only things I've seen has been about a Bakery and a Semi-Pro Boxer. As others have said, Calum, and others deserve time off. It's up to the club as a whole to rally around the temporary departure to cover and obviously, for whatever reason, they haven't. Corey may also be on holiday but I doesn't take a genius to know that he 100% takes his work with him wherever he goes. I'm sure his wife and kids hate it but I'd bet good money that he's spent a lot of time on the phone or laptop whilst away. It may be a case of he's got a couple or 3 very close to signing i.e. verbal agreements, but is waiting till he's back in the office properly to get it put in stone. Who knows. Free Agency starts on July 1st too so that'll likely open up a few more options from North America. I understand where you're coming from with the concern about being short benched and there's only one way to see if that will be the case and that's by waiting till August 1st to get a better idea. It's summer, spend it doing something useful or enjoyable rather than panicking and complaining about the club we know tends not to learn from past mistakes.
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