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Post by grrm on Jun 22, 2017 14:51:21 GMT
I guess one of the problems is the internet - it is all too easy for potential signings to do a little research and come across a forum (just like this one) where many people are slagging off the organisation and think "mmm, maybe I should look elsewhere".
I'm just as critical of the Panthers management as many on here, but you do have to consider whether we are part of the problem with recruiting??
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Post by iginla on Jun 22, 2017 15:03:42 GMT
I guess one of the problems is the internet - it is all too easy for potential signings to do a little research and come across a forum (just like this one) where many people are slagging off the organisation and think "mmm, maybe I should look elsewhere". I'm just as critical of the Panthers management as many on here, but you do have to consider whether we are part of the problem with recruiting?? We could all just revert to telling a pack of lies I guess as to how brilliant it is in Pantherland. 😉 Have a look at the last couple of Scots teams signings. Their new players are spouting it will be nice to be on teams challenging for trophies etc. Hahaha somebody obviously fed them a load of crap and the players didn't do their research ! 😂😂
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Post by grrm on Jun 22, 2017 15:13:20 GMT
I'm certainly not suggesting "we all lie" about how great PantherLand is, I'm just saying that players who do have a look around on the internet could well see this thread (and many others) and it certainly could colour their thinking as whether this is the club to sign for.
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Post by iginla on Jun 22, 2017 15:46:12 GMT
I'm certainly not suggesting "we all lie" about how great PantherLand is, I'm just saying that players who do have a look around on the internet could well see this thread (and many others) and it certainly could colour their thinking as whether this is the club to sign for. I couldn't agree more. Then Panthers should get their house in order,stop taking the wee wee,stop playing games,stop penny pinching and put winning first. Then the fans might refrain from telling it how it is !
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2017 16:35:02 GMT
I'm certainly not suggesting "we all lie" about how great PantherLand is, I'm just saying that players who do have a look around on the internet could well see this thread (and many others) and it certainly could colour their thinking as whether this is the club to sign for. I couldn't agree more. Then Panthers should get their house in order,stop taking the wee wee,stop playing games,stop penny pinching and put winning first. Then the fans might refrain from telling it how it is ! I wouldn't put out there too loudly that the club don't put winning first (despite it being true) as that's encouragement to the kind or players we don't want - not saying to lie about it, maybe just don't mention it haha!
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Post by deke on Jun 22, 2017 16:52:24 GMT
Perhaps we could start a thread saying why panthers are the best team in the country and Corey is a superb tactical genius and Moran is a loveable gentle fluffy bunny sort of creature who makes everyone feel valued and welcome. Let's be honest a player signing for us will have talked to other players first. Yeah they might google us but do you honestly believe no other team speaks negatively about their club? We are not in the minority. Every single club will have fans or happy with certain aspects. A player will take more notice of other players who tell them Moran is a power hungry dictator who makes mussolini look like mother Teresa.
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Post by Ghost on Jun 22, 2017 21:41:17 GMT
Surely some news tomorrow....?
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Post by deke on Jun 22, 2017 22:36:12 GMT
Cardiff are hinting at two major signings tomorrow. For us, I heard a rumour of new sock sponsors.... The excitement is real.....
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Post by messier1851 on Jun 23, 2017 6:06:31 GMT
Is it proving harder to attract players because the pound is worth about 20% less against the dollar than it was at this time last year?
If a £30k a year contract is now worth $40k instead of $50k, then coming to play in Britain is a less attractive proposition. Similarly with the exchange rate to the Euro is down about 8% on last, meaning it's more difficult to attract players from Germany, France, Austria etc, especially those who might have been just on the edge of what was affordable last year.
Combine this with a couple of extra teams in the league and our supposed new recruitment policy and it's no surprise we haven't got a full team signed up yet.
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Post by deke on Jun 23, 2017 7:45:37 GMT
Then how come steelers haven't struggled?
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Post by NickThePanther44 on Jun 23, 2017 8:28:41 GMT
Is it proving harder to attract players because the pound is worth about 20% less against the dollar than it was at this time last year? If a £30k a year contract is now worth $40k instead of $50k, then coming to play in Britain is a less attractive proposition. Similarly with the exchange rate to the Euro is down about 8% on last, meaning it's more difficult to attract players from Germany, France, Austria etc, especially those who might have been just on the edge of what was affordable last year. Combine this with a couple of extra teams in the league and our supposed new recruitment policy and it's no surprise we haven't got a full team signed up yet. It makes sense but I guess the entire league is in the same boat. We'll see, I'm certainly not worried just yet.
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Post by PantherB on Jun 23, 2017 8:30:56 GMT
Then how come steelers haven't struggled? They have an established network they can obtain players from. Got Swedish folk, Thompson has a coaching record outside of the UK. They inject a sense of enthusiasm in playing for their club, we don't, we say 'Uni Deal?' And that's all that interests some players. They're in a better position. Same now for Caps with their Russians, their signing of Cazzola is one of the best in the league. Panthers rely on 'word of mouth' from Agents and the odd recommendation from a former player. Though Ling seems to be the only guy getting us players. Garnett, Billingsley, Brown.. Mostly thanks to Ling.
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Post by messier1851 on Jun 23, 2017 8:35:03 GMT
Then how come steelers haven't struggled? Easier to re-sign players perhaps than to attract new ones? Of their 12 imports signed up for next season, six are either re-signings or the second year of a two year deal and one was already in the EIHL (Matt Marquardt, signed from Coventry), where as we have only kept Spang, Lindhagen and Brown from last season.
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Post by iginla on Jun 23, 2017 9:26:05 GMT
Then how come steelers haven't struggled? Easier to re-sign players perhaps than to attract new ones? Of their 12 imports signed up for next season, six are either re-signings or the second year of a two year deal and one was already in the EIHL (Matt Marquardt, signed from Coventry), where as we have only kept Spang, Lindhagen and Brown from last season. Perhaps if we had a half decent team last season,we might have wanted to keep the bulk of them like the Steelers have. And Lindhagens return on merit is pretty questionable in my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2017 10:09:54 GMT
So Another week of naff all news of any relevance!! I'm waiting for Jono Bullard to come on and defend the team as why there's been nothing!
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Post by deadbunny on Jun 23, 2017 10:16:33 GMT
So Another week of naff all news of any relevance!! I'm waiting for Jono Bullard to come on and defend the team as why there's been nothing! Sometimes mate, it feels like you have more beef with other fans than you do interest in the club. "Waiting for the right guy" - As good candidates are signed in Cardiff and Edinburgh. I have little faith in Corey's recruitment, and I've grown tired of his tactics. I was hoping he'd try and do something explosive for what should be his swan song year; I didn't think that would be playing in the CHL with half a team.
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Post by fishman on Jun 23, 2017 10:27:56 GMT
CN will run out of time, so he will have to go with other player and not the ones he wanted
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Post by Rob Scott on Jun 23, 2017 10:29:38 GMT
The communication from the GMB Nottingham Panthers to their fans is appalling. I don't think anyone could argue with that. Unfortunately it seems like they don't care but I suppose why try harder when you don't have to?
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Post by PantherB on Jun 23, 2017 10:35:42 GMT
I believe Calum is away on holiday for an extended period so Social Media is back in the hands of Office Staff, hence the lack of anything communicative. But that's not an excuse for how poor it's been. It's as easy as a minute out of the day to tweet fan engagement kind of tweets, respond to tweets etc.. anyone with half a brain can do it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2017 10:43:55 GMT
I believe Calum is away on holiday for an extended period so Social Media is back in the hands of Office Staff, hence the lack of anything communicative. But that's not an excuse for how poor it's been. It's as easy as a minute out of the day to tweet fan engagement kind of tweets, respond to tweets etc.. anyone with half a brain can do it. So 'twould appear that he's already bought into the organisations ethos then. I'm one of the Panthers biggest defenders but this stuff really irritates me because I do it for a living.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2017 10:45:43 GMT
The communication from the GMB Nottingham Panthers to their fans is appalling. I don't think anyone could argue with that. Unfortunately it seems like they don't care but I suppose why try harder when you don't have to? Issue is you can't preach to the unconverted (it's a waste of time), it'd be interesting to know if it's GM or NB that seems to have this particular aversion to communication (or more specifically the use of social media).
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Post by grrm on Jun 23, 2017 10:49:26 GMT
Just posted on OS -
"WANTED - PLAYER AMBASSADORS FOR PANTHERS IN THE CHL AND FORTHCOMING SEASON, ANYONE WHO CAN SKATE IS IN!" lol
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Post by fishman on Jun 23, 2017 10:50:47 GMT
I believe Calum is away on holiday for an extended period so Social Media is back in the hands of Office Staff, hence the lack of anything communicative. But that's not an excuse for how poor it's been. It's as easy as a minute out of the day to tweet fan engagement kind of tweets, respond to tweets etc.. anyone with half a brain can do it. So lets see who can come up with the best 10 word max tweet on a none signing day, best of luck PS I look at Twitter but don't Tweet
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Post by Yotes on Jun 23, 2017 10:55:04 GMT
I believe Calum is away on holiday for an extended period so Social Media is back in the hands of Office Staff, hence the lack of anything communicative. But that's not an excuse for how poor it's been. It's as easy as a minute out of the day to tweet fan engagement kind of tweets, respond to tweets etc.. anyone with half a brain can do it. So lets see who can come up with the best 10 word max tweet on a none signing day, best of luck PS I look at Twitter but don't Tweet 10 words? Easy: Panthers general manager Gary Moran today announced his immediate retirement. Do I win a prize?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2017 11:30:26 GMT
You can call Steelers as much as you want but they've just announced ticket prices for a challenge game against the blaze... £5 Yes five pounds !! At least they think of their fans !
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