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Post by DMS on Dec 31, 2016 18:10:40 GMT
Left the arena feeling properly deflated. No intensity at all. Can't blame dan green, he's hardly played. Really you can't blame him? Honestly he was dreadful! Not even close to 3 of the goals he conceded!
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Post by shinobi on Dec 31, 2016 18:14:16 GMT
Cant see anything But a panthers win here,...as i said in the previous tread..we cant keep a lead...you score first you will add to it, we get a lead...we'll capitulate and you'll win... Happy New year ! Well bugger me 😆 Without wishing to sound salty, you won IMO because of the injury to Pacl; Green simply didn't respond to some of the shots Coventry scored from. You're 5th had you own player almost having a look of WTF on his face. It's clear Green is done & I'm not one to point the finger at solitary individuals, but it's the truth. I'd rather Panthers ice a rookie goalie than Green.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Dec 31, 2016 18:15:52 GMT
Cant see anything But a panthers win here,...as i said in the previous tread..we cant keep a lead...you score first you will add to it, we get a lead...we'll capitulate and you'll win... Happy New year ! Well bugger me 😆
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Post by Bolts on Dec 31, 2016 18:17:20 GMT
Left the arena feeling properly deflated. No intensity at all. Can't blame dan green, he's hardly played. Really you can't blame him? Honestly he was dreadful! Not even close to 3 of the goals he conceded! I think others were worse. If our d is going to let them have shots on him then we'll concede. I know he's shocking but I don't think it all rests on him
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Post by jdizpt8 on Dec 31, 2016 18:18:20 GMT
Lacho, Lee and Moran on a line with Green in goal!! Might as well have put Rick, gate man 1 and gate man 2 out they'd have done better. Green is terrible!! We should have wrapped that game up with all the fluffed shots a few players enjoyed tonight.
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Post by Spoonerdudes on Dec 31, 2016 18:20:21 GMT
Without wishing to sound salty, you won IMO because of the injury to Pacl; Green simply didn't respond to some of the shots Coventry scored from. You're 5th had you own player almost having a look of WTF on his face. It's clear Green is done & I'm not one to point the finger at solitary individuals, but it's the truth. I'd rather Panthers ice a rookie goalie than Green. I didn't think we'd get anything from the game...so with no meaning to sound cold..but we will take what we have...we aren't playing well at the moment so to get both points from your barn is a very nice bonus. We have injuries as well...I know you do as well..but we have to deal with the hands we have been dealt...
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Post by shinobi on Dec 31, 2016 18:45:26 GMT
Without wishing to sound salty, you won IMO because of the injury to Pacl; Green simply didn't respond to some of the shots Coventry scored from. You're 5th had you own player almost having a look of WTF on his face. It's clear Green is done & I'm not one to point the finger at solitary individuals, but it's the truth. I'd rather Panthers ice a rookie goalie than Green. I didn't think we'd get anything from the game...so with no meaning to sound cold..but we will take what we have...we aren't playing well at the moment so to get both points from your barn is a very nice bonus. We have injuries as well...I know you do as well..but we have to deal with the hands we have been dealt... No worries, a win is a win and if the skates were on the other foot, I'd probably be saying exactly the same thing. Injuries are part of the game & it's up to both teams to adapt; I just think we don't have enough quality to compensate for a sub par 3rd string netminder. Still, got the loser point.
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Post by EMB on Dec 31, 2016 18:49:35 GMT
3 on 3 with Green in goal and you put Lee and Lacho out together. Seriously. Which is exactly what I said to my mate , Watch us lose this one . Bingo Just seen Henry he has a cut along his eyebrow which is taped up and he said he was feeling a bit dizzy and sick. Hope Miika is better for Monday or we could have another shock by a team that hasn't won all Christmas
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Post by Higgy on Dec 31, 2016 18:54:12 GMT
We lacked the intensity of recent games tonight,we just didn't seem to have that spark,this let Blaze dictate large parts of the game I felt.
I know Green didn't do brilliantly but why were our D so out of position with him in goal? They know he isn't great but were still playing like Wiikman or Pacl was in net. So many odd man rushes he had no chance!
Brad Moran...he could have won the game twice for us...but fluffed his chances...shocker
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Post by wgray on Dec 31, 2016 18:55:23 GMT
Really you can't blame him? Honestly he was dreadful! Not even close to 3 of the goals he conceded! I think others were worse. If our d is going to let them have shots on him then we'll concede. I know he's shocking but I don't think it all rests on him They can't block every single shot though, most of their goals he had sight of the puck and they were saveable, 10 shots and 4 goals is ridiculous unfortunately
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Post by ted logan on Dec 31, 2016 19:03:44 GMT
I think others were worse. If our d is going to let them have shots on him then we'll concede. I know he's shocking but I don't think it all rests on him They can't block every single shot though, most of their goals he had sight of the puck and they were saveable, 10 shots and 4 goals is ridiculous unfortunately Spot on. Green was absolutely awful tonight. No D in the world can stop shots on net. He let 4 in from 10/11 shots. Dire. Time to call time on him, he's 34 and he is getting worse.
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Post by kievthegreat on Dec 31, 2016 19:06:04 GMT
I think others were worse. If our d is going to let them have shots on him then we'll concede. I know he's shocking but I don't think it all rests on him They can't block every single shot though, most of their goals he had sight of the puck and they were saveable, 10 shots and 4 goals is ridiculous unfortunately That includes 1 shot from the neutral zone as well (shows how little Coventry think of him).
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Post by Pies on Dec 31, 2016 19:10:26 GMT
If Pacl doesn't get injured, we'd have won that game at a canter
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Post by panthers_nyr on Dec 31, 2016 19:12:53 GMT
Gutting result, if it wasn't for the goalie issues we would of won that game in regulation time. We lacked some instensity and sharpness from recent games but we were still the better team until we got nervy due to Green being in net. Hope it's not a mild concussion or something and that Henry is fine, hopefully have either him or Miika back for Monday otherwise it could be 2 points lost against another poor side.
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Post by Yotes on Dec 31, 2016 19:23:01 GMT
I'm not sure how anyone can say we'd have won had Pacl not got injured, we weren't playing particularly well in front of him to that point.
Green wasn't great, as one would expect tbh, and I agree that we should've long ago given that job to a younger man, but some of the goals he got no help. Their 5th, for example, we managed to cockerel up on our own powerplay, and looked a decent finish from Rod to me.
Moran was absolutely awful, missed a couple of open goals, seems to be constantly on the ice too. Glad others couldn't believe our 2nd line out in overtime, terrible decision from the coach.
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Post by Bolts on Dec 31, 2016 19:24:45 GMT
I'm not sure how anyone can say we'd have won had Pacl not got injured, we weren't playing particularly well in front of him to that point. Green wasn't great, as one would expect tbh, and I agree that we should've long ago given that job to a younger man, but some of the goals he got no help. Their 5th, for example, we managed to cockerel up on our own powerplay, and looked a decent finish from Rod to me. Moran was absolutely awful, missed a couple of open goals, seems to be constantly on the ice too. Glad others couldn't believe our 2nd line out in overtime, terrible decision from the coach. I thought Lawrence was equally quiet tonight, apart from the last 10seconds
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Dec 31, 2016 19:44:31 GMT
Wiikman is ill, so we play the back-up, with the back-up's backup as back-up. In reality, Green is only there to cover for emergencies, and probably doesn't get much of a lookin at practice time, so he's way short of match sharpness. Could we have got some-one else in as back-up ? in reality, who would we get that's likely to be any better. Yes, Green should have done a lot, lot better with shots he can see but we should have killed the game off. It reminded me of one of the end of season awards they had, when one of the sponsors went in goal. And we really do need players out on 3v3 who can control the puck, and understand that you have to keep hold of the puck instead of dumping it in, or playing behind the back passes.
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Post by cooperphil156 on Dec 31, 2016 20:07:52 GMT
Dan in the past got ice time when say KWall was injured - not a lot. Now he only gets ice time when Miika then Pacl go down. Who would want that? I thought there were some horrific mistakes for their goals. Passes astray galore for the last one - one pass out straight into the path of an attacker who scored for another- etc. We should have won it easily.
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Dec 31, 2016 20:34:31 GMT
Lacho, Lee and Moran on a line with Green in goal!! Might as well have put Rick, gate man 1 and gate man 2 out they'd have done better. Green is terrible!! We should have wrapped that game up with all the fluffed shots a few players enjoyed tonight. Spot on. Saw that line come out and knew it was over. Lee must have fluffed 6 or 7 passes tonight. He plays like a man expecting a hit to end his career. Moran just isn't a captain. No edge about him, just a 1 dimensional, nothing player. Noble was giving him a lot of grief in the 3rd period and Moran is like a church mouse taught to skate by Jan Krulis. Overall I thought we were good again and it was only due to Green shipping most shots he faced - including not being able to cover his near post. Williams - unbelievable. Too too good.
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Post by grumpy on Dec 31, 2016 20:45:08 GMT
Can`t believe all the moaning. Yes, Blaze 2nd and third goals came from sloppy turnovers and Lacho should have covered Godfrey on the 1st; yes, Green had a mare but that`s why he`s 3rd choice and has hardly had any ice time this season (has he played at all?), but we have been playing short benched for much of the season and that does impact on performances...tired bodies, tired minds, lead to poor decisions on the ice. This isn`t The NHL, we don`t have affiliate teams to call up from when we need reinforcements and the club did take steps to avoid this situation by recruiting a second import netminder...they can`t cover every possible eventuality, s... happens. We`ve taken 11 points out of the last twelve and that aint bad in the circumstances and after going behind with 30 seconds left I would certainly have settled for a point.
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Post by Bagheera on Dec 31, 2016 21:07:55 GMT
Can`t believe all the moaning. Yes, Blaze 2nd and third goals came from sloppy turnovers and Lacho should have covered Godfrey on the 1st; yes, Green had a mare but that`s why he`s 3rd choice and has hardly had any ice time this season (has he played at all?), but we have been playing short benched for much of the season and that does impact on performances...tired bodies, tired minds, lead to poor decisions on the ice. This isn`t The NHL, we don`t have affiliate teams to call up from when we need reinforcements and the club did take steps to avoid this situation by recruiting a second import netminder...they can`t cover every possible eventuality, s... happens. We`ve taken 11 points out of the last twelve and that aint bad in the circumstances and after going behind with 30 seconds left I would certainly have settled for a point. Overall good points, and largely my sentiments around the Christmas period. Think we'd have all snapped anyones hand off offering 11 points out of 12 before hand. As bad as Green was there was little else that could be done to change that. He is now 3rd choice thus gets next to 0 ice time. I'd like a younger replacement too, but anyone as number 3 is going to be very rusty coming in in those circumstances. My big frustration(the nature in which we lost) was the stupidity of only the 2nd shift of OT being Lee & Lacho together. An abysmal coaching decision. 3 other import D men on the bench having not iced in OT & Mac. A stack of talented forwards and he puts out his 11 best on the second shift(incidentaly I actually thought Lacho had a good game overall btw. With 2 points too). Good to get a point after conceeding when we did. I think we probably would have been stronger towards the end and won comfotably had Pacl stayed in. Im not as down on Green as some, however It looked like anything other than at his chest was a certain goal tonight.
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Post by iginla on Dec 31, 2016 21:13:45 GMT
Cant see anything But a panthers win here,...as i said in the previous tread..we cant keep a lead...you score first you will add to it, we get a lead...we'll capitulate and you'll win... Happy New year ! Well bugger me 😆 Wish you'd bugger Dan Green.....cos that's the one reason why you won ! 😕
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Post by Mark on Dec 31, 2016 22:56:10 GMT
Thought it was a scrappy game that largely played into Coventry's hands. Felt a bit sorry for Dan Green, he was bloody awful but he shouldn't be there and if the team in front of him had put away half their missed chances it would've been game over. We got stuck in our own zone for long periods, and when we broke out we quickly lost the puck and had to start again, lots of poor passing and turnovers. Lacho and Lee continue to frustrate. Poor control, missed passes and little contribution., playing as if waiting for the next big hit or comfortable in the knowledge that British players are at premium so it's jobs for the boys.
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Post by thebestpanthers on Dec 31, 2016 22:59:44 GMT
Every-one (bar a few) seem to be transfixed with the issues regarding Green - but there were some positives in the game that really need a mention - The goal to take the game to overtime, show the spirit of the team to not give up, Nikiforuk goal, glad he is on our side as he may be small but checks well and fights for the puck, and Williams 4 games, 4 goals and obviously marshalling the players when he is on the ice, Finally "Big Ern" another solid performance and deserved a goal
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Post by fishman on Jan 1, 2017 0:51:42 GMT
Panthers look at times like then did a few week ago, Panther players look like the were singing from different hymn sheets especially in transition. the D let Green down allowing to many shot to get through, how long is it since Green played in a competitive game, having said all that Panthers scored 5 goals passed one of the best keepers in the league Can't remember see big E in the 3rd? ??
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