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Post by texpef on Nov 29, 2016 0:09:29 GMT
They are my team and I will support them no matter what but this season I am bored,we play a boring brand of hockey and its painful to watch most nights. I completely agree with you. I'm not arguing the fact that they're currently boring to watch and it's a complete struggle to win. I'm just sick of all the self-entitled fans who sound like they're suicidal before the puck has even touched the ice. Pessimism or im sure alot might call realism is NOT the same as suicidal and to be honest its pretty poor taste to imply it is.. Im pretty sure most will agree this years team is pretty crap and they are crap due to a blend of poor team selection, poor coaching and a lack of replacing key injuries sufficiently and in time (Again) plus what most fans think is a matter of priorities in that the management do not seem to be hiding their primary interest is the continental cup and not the domestic league title. Dont want to sound smug but to be honest im glad i didnt get a season ticket so i am able to vote with my feet and havnt intentionally bought a ticket for over 3 weeks now and if the team dont spend what the fans deserve from a team of the panthers standing and get the quality players in that will make a difference and allow us to compete with the likes of sheffield and now cardiff then i cant see me taking in many games this season. So titch, in my case you might get your wish for those "moaners" to stay away but how many more will it take before the panthers management take notice and do something actually constructive about it rather than giving out pathetic excuses about injuries. If they are not careful they may act too late and loose these fans forever if they find something that is perceived better to spend their cash on...
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Post by titch on Nov 29, 2016 1:41:02 GMT
Maybe I was over the top stating people were 'suicidal' but looking at the faces of people in the arena lately, they certainly look depressed.
Why do people turn up to games if it just makes them depressed? Why do people turn up to games if they're bored? Doesn't make any sense to me. They're just making the arena more dull than it already is.
I'm all for change, especially when it comes to the management. I just can't imagine the attendance will do much. I remember the days of there being 2000 or so people in the arena for certain mid week games and yet the club was still ran the same as it is today.
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Post by malsbloke on Nov 29, 2016 6:20:45 GMT
Not too sure how i like being referred to in this way being that my personal gloom is based upon the recent form and application of the team rather than anything else . However i still choose to go A. because i have bought a season ticket for the 20th odd year , B. because they are - however crappily they are playing - still my team , and C. Because i have hope ( however sorely it is being tested ) . For what its worth .
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Post by Shorty on Nov 29, 2016 7:27:23 GMT
Perhaps different music at the beginning of the game may help.
This one seems appropriate for some of our team just now:
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Nov 29, 2016 17:28:24 GMT
Preparation well under way... Twitter post with the players guzzling McDonalds breakfasts. Taunting the fans expecting who dare to expect a half decent performance against our (supposedly title and) arch-rivals. Maybe we'll have Lacho et el half-cut in Baa Bar as the @pantherihc Twitter post for Friday night?
I can see another big loss coming our way.
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Post by PantherG on Nov 29, 2016 17:39:27 GMT
Maybe I was over the top stating people were 'suicidal' but looking at the faces of people in the arena lately, they certainly look depressed. Why do people turn up to games if it just makes them depressed? Why do people turn up to games if they're bored? Doesn't make any sense to me. They're just making the arena more dull than it already is. I'm all for change, especially when it comes to the management. I just can't imagine the attendance will do much. I remember the days of there being 2000 or so people in the arena for certain mid week games and yet the club was still ran the same as it is today. People are quite rightly depressed, this team should be competing with Cardiff and Sheffield but are no where near that standard! There are sub par performances each week that leave a lot to be desired! Many people like myself have bought season tickets, expecting great things this season and yet we are left with some on ice performances that leave a lot to be desired. I am sure many will decide enough is enough for those who have not bought season tickets. But others are hoping that some changes will be made to the roster so we have a team that actually gels and hope to see a new coach that can bring systems through coaching that actually work in the EIHL and not just the European Cup.... So don't expect to see happy faces or positivity on these forums until things pick up and the on ice performances matches the budget that this club must have to put a team on the ice....
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Post by Mozzy on Nov 29, 2016 18:37:16 GMT
I can certainly see why you are all annoyed with the last 4-6 weeks, it's not good enough for a team of your stature at all.
I'm sure if Nielson had been Sheffield coach his head would have rolled well before now.
For me you need a complete shake up on the coaching team, Nielson's time is past. You can stay in a job too long and I think he now has.
Aside from that though, we're coming into your building. You'll be hurting after the big loss in Sheffield. I would not be surprised at all if you turned us over. 8-1 scorelines don't happen that often. I think the night after in Sheffield may well be a different story but time will tell.
I'd like to see a spark of that old rivalry back. We have a solid rivalry with Cardiff right now, good old fashioned fiery stuff. Would love to see that this weekend.
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Post by shmyrohdear on Nov 29, 2016 20:42:40 GMT
I can certainly see why you are all annoyed with the last 4-6 weeks, it's not good enough for a team of your stature at all. I'm sure if Nielson had been Sheffield coach his head would have rolled well before now. For me you need a complete shake up on the coaching team, Nielson's time is past. You can stay in a job too long and I think he now has. Aside from that though, we're coming into your building. You'll be hurting after the big loss in Sheffield. I would not be surprised at all if you turned us over. 8-1 scorelines don't happen that often. I think the night after in Sheffield may well be a different story but time will tell. I'd like to see a spark of that old rivalry back. We have a solid rivalry with Cardiff right now, good old fashioned fiery stuff. Would love to see that this weekend. I'd love a shake up, seeing the same product every week for the last 7 years has now taken the fun away. But what coach is going to want to come and be restrained and become a lapdog for GM and Black. Agreed about the rivalry aspect, the fire and passion has died. Mostly down to our management using it for ticket sales and cheesy lines opposed to gearing up the players. It's always apparent that you take this rivalry seriously, you can see it on the players when they score against us.
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Post by Higgy on Nov 29, 2016 22:46:50 GMT
Why do people turn up to games if it just makes them depressed? Why do people turn up to games if they're bored? Doesn't make any sense to me. They're just making the arena more dull than it already Maybe there is more to it than the sport,the social element,the 'hockey friends',the routine of coming to every game for 20+ plus years,maybe that's why people still come even though the hockey has been garbage. Does everyone have to be happy,smiley and enthusiastic every game?....No
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Post by deke on Nov 30, 2016 7:54:02 GMT
Don't think we feel we should ein every game by divine right. What we can expect is some ability from corey to build a balanced team. We have so much grit not much on goal scorers. Corey has no clue how to use what he has and the lines get changed every few shifts so the guys don't build up a rapport with their line mates. We have a huge gritty squad let's try and use it. Press teams on the forecheck force them to make mistakes and put pressure on them. Let's be honest we do not have the same attacking power, use what we do have which is size strength and grit. Even if we don't win they will at least know they have actually been in a game. Hopefull for a panthers win.
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Post by nate24 on Nov 30, 2016 8:54:33 GMT
Tickets, flights and accommodation to see Berlin Polar Bears £278. Reckon just going to do that several times a year than keep punishing myself with the 'GM'b Panthers.
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Post by PantherG on Nov 30, 2016 17:31:25 GMT
Tickets, flights and accommodation to see Berlin Polar Bears £278. Reckon just going to do that several times a year than keep punishing myself with the 'GM'b Panthers. I have been to the Mercedes Benz Arena, 4 times this season and will probably be there another 4 times before the end of the season, the best hockey atmosphere I have been in for sure. They are club that is just above mid table but they play entertaining hockey and that's good enough for me.. You will have an amazing time if this is your first visit.... Get there early to enjoy the pre match stuff, I love that they have their own song....
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Post by shaun30 on Dec 2, 2016 23:13:12 GMT
I would class myself as a very optimistic fan at the best of times, but my gut feel is that we are going to get hammered
I hope we don't, but if we play like we have been it could be messy
Prove me wrong lads!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2016 9:35:18 GMT
No Wiikman, Pacl in goal.
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Post by texpef on Dec 3, 2016 10:53:05 GMT
Don't know why I let it but what surprises me EVERY season is the lack of urgency and effort that appears to come from the panthers management whenever we get these type of crisis in the season. It feels to me like "oh it will sort itself out without any change" and when it doesn't its a reaction rather than a pro-active approach leading to a meaningless charge towards another disappointing end of the season, giving fans another sense of deja vu and a "what might have been" with the club trotting out excuses like blaming injuries to cause yet another season to be flushed down the toilet.
To me ALL clubs get injuries throughout the season its how each club deals with those that go along way to determine who wins and this shows in my mind at least the drive and ethos (and of course finances) of the clubs. Panthers were the poor relation of what were the bigger clubs such and the steelers, storm, knights etc and hence had limited resources when it came to these but now as one of the so called big boys this is not an area they should be struggling in but it seems to me we still have small club mentality.
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Post by ted logan on Dec 3, 2016 11:02:37 GMT
Don't know why I let it but what surprises me EVERY season is the lack of urgency and effort that appears to come from the panthers management whenever we get these type of crisis in the season. It feels to me like "oh it will sort itself out without any change" and when it doesn't its a reaction rather than a pro-active approach leading to a meaningless charge towards another disappointing end of the season, giving fans another sense of deja vu and a "what might have been" with the club trotting out excuses like blaming injuries to cause yet another season to be flushed down the toilet. To me ALL clubs get injuries throughout the season its how each club deals with those that go along way to determine who wins and this shows in my mind at least the drive and ethos (and of course finances) of the clubs. Panthers were the poor relation of what were the bigger clubs such and the steelers, storm, knights etc and hence had limited resources when it came to these but now as one of the so called big boys this is not an area they should be struggling in but it seems to me we still have small club mentality. I've said before that a club like Panthers should be one of two things:- Either proactive - carry a spare/spares from day one to cover the inevitable injuries and/or loss of form. Or be reactive - move quickly to cover injuries or cut deadwood and replace. Unfortunately we seem to be neither.
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Post by shmyrohdear on Dec 3, 2016 11:05:28 GMT
Tonight we need to take on the attitude of "we just play" take this one shift at a time and play the right way. We have speed and physicality in the line up and we need to really expose their defense on the forecheck and get to work.
This weekend will be decided by who wants this more and who wins battles in the corners and the neutral zone, take away their time on the puck and we can really take the wind out of their sails. The boys can't be happy with being whipped in Sheffield and I'd like to think we'll be carrying momentum regardless of the result in Cardiff.
Get at them hard early and we can steal the points this weekend. No more of these one touch globe trotter passes through center ice. Just get it chipped in deep and own the puck. Actually hopeful for tonight, i hope they don't let us down.
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Post by Bolts on Dec 3, 2016 19:28:26 GMT
Teddy bear toss=momentum killer.
Do it at the break for fudges sake
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Post by fishman on Dec 3, 2016 19:30:07 GMT
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Post by Bolts on Dec 3, 2016 19:33:25 GMT
Correction. Great idea.
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Post by Bolts on Dec 3, 2016 19:33:58 GMT
Correction of the correction.
Awful idea.
2-2
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Post by fishman on Dec 3, 2016 19:37:31 GMT
Way to go more teddies. Still think its stupid timing.
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Post by Shorty on Dec 3, 2016 19:57:15 GMT
Fair to say the referee is a clown.
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Post by fishman on Dec 3, 2016 20:31:19 GMT
Fair to say the referee is a clown. That £10 fine
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Post by pantherdman on Dec 3, 2016 21:52:45 GMT
Another game played with a short bench and another narrow loss. A couple of extra bodies could have made the difference again. Groundhog year.
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