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Post by texpef on Feb 3, 2016 18:00:21 GMT
wgray it can be said hes not having his best year
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Feb 3, 2016 18:30:04 GMT
Has anyone actually considered that Corey may not be able to sign anyone as cover, we know he said he was looking for the right guy but why are people jumping to conclusions assumin Corey has sat there and done nothing? Maybe GM won't approve players he's interested in, maybe Black hasn't allowed a transfer to go through, or maybe even Corey has found players but they've had better offers/turned him down for other opportunities. We've seen Corey sign players very quickly upon injuries, some have been beneficial but a few have been disastrous, it seems that some of you on here just want any random person who plays D regardless of who they are and we know that Corey is smarter than 'Ooh this guy's available, let me give him a call' he's learned from his mistakes and won't be rushed into signing anyone just for the sake of it. Vandermeer is a good player, we can see that, the thing is.. He's related to David Rutherford. Giant's could've quite easily asked him to chat to Jim and being a relative, surley that makes the odds on him signing a lot better. When Neilson did do something. He was called "Kyle Hardy..."
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Post by PantherB on Feb 3, 2016 21:39:38 GMT
Has anyone actually considered that Corey may not be able to sign anyone as cover, we know he said he was looking for the right guy but why are people jumping to conclusions assumin Corey has sat there and done nothing? Maybe GM won't approve players he's interested in, maybe Black hasn't allowed a transfer to go through, or maybe even Corey has found players but they've had better offers/turned him down for other opportunities. We've seen Corey sign players very quickly upon injuries, some have been beneficial but a few have been disastrous, it seems that some of you on here just want any random person who plays D regardless of who they are and we know that Corey is smarter than 'Ooh this guy's available, let me give him a call' he's learned from his mistakes and won't be rushed into signing anyone just for the sake of it. Vandermeer is a good player, we can see that, the thing is.. He's related to David Rutherford. Giant's could've quite easily asked him to chat to Jim and being a relative, surley that makes the odds on him signing a lot better. When Neilson did do something. He was called "Kyle Hardy..." Another example of why he doesn't like to jump into deals. If we didn't have Mosey then Hardy would've been a decent fit but anyone i'm sure would agree Mosey is better. Hardy just wasn't the player we needed nor we thought we'd get. Maybe you can blame Corey for that but maybe who ever supplies him and Panthers with player reports/references might be to blame too. It's like a previous employer of Ryan Hayes, they said he'd be league top goalscorer.. He was bang on but he didn't mention anything about attitude problems or potential to upset locker rooms. All i'm saying really is not to jump to conclusions (aimed at anyone throwing blame towards Corey)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 21:59:22 GMT
Just out of interest, Pantherb. What are your views on Corey as a coach?
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Post by Bagheera on Feb 3, 2016 22:18:13 GMT
I dont think most peoples issue regards playing short is with Corey. Everything I read around signings is largely aimed at the management.
Talk about coaching and I personally can't find a stick big enough to beat him with at the minute. Because the on ice performances are clear to see.
Coaching and Signings are 2 totally different gripes largely aimed at the 2 seperate areas of Panthers.
Doesn't of course mean he isn't partly to blame for playing short. It COULD be down to him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 22:20:27 GMT
Agree with you Bagheera, as many do.
Just wanted to hear pantherb's view on the same topic. Purely for clarity purposes.
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Post by Bagheera on Feb 3, 2016 22:24:53 GMT
Sorry Jordan.
My post was purely aimed at Pantherb too. Forget to mention it. 1 day I WILL learn how to quote/link to a posr properly.
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Post by ted logan on Feb 3, 2016 22:37:32 GMT
I dont think most peoples issue regards playing short is with Corey. Everything I read around signings is largely aimed at the management. Talk about coaching and I personally can't find a stick big enough to beat him with at the minute. Because the on ice performances are clear to see. Coaching and Signings are 2 totally different gripes largely aimed at the 2 seperate areas of Panthers. Doesn't of course mean he isn't partly to blame for playing short. It COULD be down to him. This. Although I'd be surprised if CN chose to play short. If GM told him to even hint it was his idea, he would do. GM/NB have sold the 'best fans in the league' short big time this season. The BS/spin has been in overdrive. Enough is enough now. Too many fans are seeing through it. It's only a matter of time before large swathes of fans vote with their feet. The Braehead game was a bit of a precursor of what may lie ahead if things don't change.
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Post by Shorty on Feb 3, 2016 23:01:21 GMT
GM/NB have sold the 'best fans in the league' short big time this season. The BS/spin has been in overdrive. Enough is enough now. Too many fans are seeing through it. It's only a matter of time before large swathes of fans vote with their feet. The Braehead game was a bit of a precursor of what may lie ahead if things don't change. You can rest assured though that there will be very little by way of a boycott for the Challenge Cup Semi Final.
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Post by ted logan on Feb 3, 2016 23:03:14 GMT
GM/NB have sold the 'best fans in the league' short big time this season. The BS/spin has been in overdrive. Enough is enough now. Too many fans are seeing through it. It's only a matter of time before large swathes of fans vote with their feet. The Braehead game was a bit of a precursor of what may lie ahead if things don't change. You can rest assured though that there will be very little by way of a boycott for the Challenge Cup Semi Final. Just me then?
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Post by Yotes on Feb 3, 2016 23:05:04 GMT
I'm gonna boycott it... iginla style.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 23:11:41 GMT
The boycott is yet to be organized..... When is the game again? I'm fast losing interest.
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Post by ted logan on Feb 3, 2016 23:19:06 GMT
The boycott is yet to be organized..... When is the game again? I'm fast losing interest. Wednesday 24th Feb. Be there or.....err.....join the other GMB! Gas Moran & Black
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 23:27:12 GMT
The boycott is yet to be organized..... When is the game again? I'm fast losing interest. Wednesday 24th Feb. Be there or.....err.....join the other GMB! Gas Moran & Black Ooohh, now that is catchy. Can I use this for the upcoming thread?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 23:36:24 GMT
Well according to latest edition of checking it out CN has stepped up his search for a D man He's in last 2 weeks he's spoke to 23 players !!
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Post by EMB on Feb 3, 2016 23:41:21 GMT
Don't you think the first period of that episode.was all about trying to find another D man and how hard they've been looking? . Looks like they've either been reading the cage or the disgruntled fans are getting to them . Trying to smooth the waters till it all dies down.
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Post by Yotes on Feb 3, 2016 23:56:51 GMT
Trying to smooth the waters till it all dies down Jeff Dimmen comes back. 29th December - 3rd February, and counting.
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Post by iginla on Feb 4, 2016 0:14:34 GMT
Spot on Yotes. It's a bit bloody late to be looking for a Dman now,at the pace Panthers signings usually move,the season will nearly be over before he gets here !!!!
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Post by PantherG on Feb 4, 2016 0:17:43 GMT
Trying to smooth the waters till it all dies down Jeff Dimmen comes back. 29th December - 3rd February, and counting. Heard he Is due back I'd April!
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Post by Mozzy on Feb 4, 2016 1:23:40 GMT
Yes we did ice 13 imports, many of them banged up but surely the idea of you signing so many Brits in the summer was for this reason. Yes, you may have only iced 9 or 10 imports but your extra import quality Brits would have made up for it. Look at last night, we iced one real import quality Brit in O'Connor. Yes, Phillips and Hewitt were there but they are not true import quality anymore. You would have made up for your lack of import numbers with Clarke, Farmer, Myers, Lachowicz, Lee and possibly Swindlehirst. I'd be very surprised if you would have iced less players in total than us. Hewitt was playing on our top line last night. Our better players are sitting in the stands at the moment. Always trot out the same old line about numbers... dont make me laugh Out of interest how did steelers manage to win the league last season... wasnt the brits it was the best 3 players in the league (and heres a clue... none had a british passport)... In that case then, you need to be asking serious questions about who in your organisation thought it would be a good idea to sign so many Brits. They won't have come cheap and were bound to have an effect on your import signings. There would still be a queue of clubs waiting to take them off your hands if you let them go. As for numbers, it's a fact. You have had injuries but due to the sheer size of your squad it's rare you've actually played a shorter bench than the team you were playing. I didn't read many disappointed posts when your Brits were being announced in the summer with all the talk about 4 line hockey.
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Post by gump on Feb 4, 2016 4:02:05 GMT
Yotes, Jackman was not a good signing as is this guy, too old for this league given no hockey played last 9 mths
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Post by texpef on Feb 4, 2016 9:29:58 GMT
Always trot out the same old line about numbers... dont make me laugh Out of interest how did steelers manage to win the league last season... wasnt the brits it was the best 3 players in the league (and heres a clue... none had a british passport)... In that case then, you need to be asking serious questions about who in your organisation thought it would be a good idea to sign so many Brits. They won't have come cheap and were bound to have an effect on your import signings. There would still be a queue of clubs waiting to take them off your hands if you let them go. As for numbers, it's a fact. You have had injuries but due to the sheer size of your squad it's rare you've actually played a shorter bench than the team you were playing. I didn't read many disappointed posts when your Brits were being announced in the summer with all the talk about 4 line hockey. At the start of the season yes the strong contingent of british players signed was welcomed BUT speaking for myself that was as an addition to a full compliment of import players not instead of. As stated its impossible to replace british players when they get imjured or underperform unlike the import allocation and it can be argued that several players haven't exactly played to their potential. It has almost always been the imports in this country that decide where the trophies tend to end up with very very few exceptions as I said earlier who was it that won the league for steelers last season? Finally as for four line hockey you would need all the imports allowed for that to happen and in Nottingham we haven't had a full quota on the ice all season (and NO I don't count two import netties as a full quota of imports before anyone asks..)
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Feb 4, 2016 9:31:29 GMT
Always trot out the same old line about numbers... dont make me laugh Out of interest how did steelers manage to win the league last season... wasnt the brits it was the best 3 players in the league (and heres a clue... none had a british passport)... In that case then, you need to be asking serious questions about who in your organisation thought it would be a good idea to sign so many Brits. They won't have come cheap and were bound to have an effect on your import signings. There would still be a queue of clubs waiting to take them off your hands if you let them go. As for numbers, it's a fact. You have had injuries but due to the sheer size of your squad it's rare you've actually played a shorter bench than the team you were playing. I didn't read many disappointed posts when your Brits were being announced in the summer with all the talk about 4 line hockey. A lot did, right back in September when we were going to be short of imports. Brits are great if they are good but imports will always win the league.
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Post by ted logan on Feb 4, 2016 11:40:47 GMT
Wednesday 24th Feb. Be there or.....err.....join the other GMB! Gas Moran & Black Ooohh, now that is catchy. Can I use this for the upcoming thread? Go for it
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Post by Thomas Elliott on Feb 4, 2016 11:45:45 GMT
Didn't say I'd ship any body out did I, the words I used was "not performing" Clarke 1 goal from 11 games in January if this form continues he won't get to 20 goals, but lets hope his form improves, Lacko is only a shadow of the player he was 2 seasons ago. This is from Panthers website when Macmillan signed "Logan wants to get back to putting up scoring numbers and I think he's capable of doing so" if CN expected goals then why shouldn't the fans? take a look www.panthers.co.uk/content/gmb-panthers-sign-nhl-first-round-draft-pick-logan-macmillan Kolnik's ability on the ice is great to see and at 35 yrs old, didn't think he would be top scorer, and its nearly 10yrs since his last NHL season. The question from EMB was "I can't think of any of our imports who I'd actually ship out at the moment to be honest, what about you?" and you responded with Clarke, MacMillan, Moran, Lacho & Lawrence. That to me implies that these players would all be on your "shipped out" list because they are not performing. Whilst Clarke's current form is 1 out of 11 in January (I didn't realise) and is not good I'd still be fairly amazed if he didn't make 20 goals this season. He's only failed to reach that milestone twice, last season when he was injured for half the season and score 11 and his first ever season in the EIHL where he scored 14. I think he'll make it personally, but he needs to get out of this slump that he's in. Lacho hasn't kicked on like he should have on the scoring charts over the past year or so. Logan MacMillan is putting up scoring numbers compared to his other seasons. If he keeps up his scoring numbers as he is he'll be on roughly 26-30 points which is more than he has got in his last 2 seasons combined. I don't think in that article it ever mentions anything about goal scoring. I'd say that scoring numbers relates to points rather than actual goals. And MacMillan's overall contribution and effort for this team is one that surely cannot be questioned. The man has been a revelation and something of an unsung hero. Class and skill is fairly permanent though Keith. He might be slower than he was and it might be a while since he was in the NHL but I can't say it's a surprise that he's top point scorer. He's been putting up points all his career. When David Ling signed for us first time round it was 9 years since he played in the NHL but he still got 109 points in 67 games.
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