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Post by iginla on Feb 2, 2016 20:35:22 GMT
Yep Nate.....In short they knew he was injured.
Good move that !
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Feb 2, 2016 20:41:36 GMT
Clarkson danced with him and fell on his leg. Hendrikx Apologies, yes Hendrix |
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Post by nate24 on Feb 2, 2016 22:15:17 GMT
Yep Nate.....In short they knew he was injured. Good move that ! Not disagreeing at Iginla I am just saying a plan was put in motion but half cooked. Just getting the whole story across. |
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Post by Yotes on Feb 2, 2016 22:38:33 GMT
They didn't bring in Wieds to stand in for Waugh, he'd been in and played his last game before Waugh got injured. He was a temp while they, quote, " finalised the last position on the roster", which I suppose ended up being Ling? We made do without Waugh, mainly because we were at home so much and we're always good at the start of the year, and have tried to do exactly the same with Dimmen. |
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Post by iginla on Feb 2, 2016 23:29:08 GMT
I had a quick tot up and so far this season we have missed approx 75 to 80 games worth of imports.......that is not far off two imports per game.
Plus we have had Farmer and Lee both out for fair lengths of time too.
Pretty ridiculous really when Cardiff,Sheffield and Belfast are sitting there with 16 or 17 imports on the books.
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Post by nate24 on Feb 3, 2016 7:22:07 GMT
I had a quick tot up and so far this season we have missed approx 75 to 80 games worth of imports.......that is not far off two imports per game. Plus we have had Farmer and Lee both out for fair lengths of time too. Pretty ridiculous really when Cardiff,Sheffield and Belfast are sitting there with 16 or 17 imports on the books. Ambition vs no ambition. We are happy with average seasons. |
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Post by texpef on Feb 3, 2016 8:16:31 GMT
I had a quick tot up and so far this season we have missed approx 75 to 80 games worth of imports.......that is not far off two imports per game. Plus we have had Farmer and Lee both out for fair lengths of time too. Pretty ridiculous really when Cardiff,Sheffield and Belfast are sitting there with 16 or 17 imports on the books. Ambition vs no ambition. We are happy with average seasons. Not quite true, we aren't the management are.. as stated on numerous occasions its all about the money and bums on seats, for example how many articles do the panthers put out stating this crowd record or that crowd attendance? As opposed this season in particular to "we have ambitions to win the league and look at our star mid season signing(s)"... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 8:50:19 GMT
As good as this guy looks. He's not played all season so will need a few weeks getting upto speed he'll be pretty rusty I'd imagine
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Post by nate24 on Feb 3, 2016 9:05:52 GMT
Ambition vs no ambition. We are happy with average seasons. Not quite true, we aren't the management are.. as stated on numerous occasions its all about the money and bums on seats, for example how many articles do the panthers put out stating this crowd record or that crowd attendance? As opposed this season in particular to "we have ambitions to win the league and look at our star mid season signing(s)"... Bad use of the word 'we' on my part. You are very right. |
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Post by EMB on Feb 3, 2016 10:23:30 GMT
Just looked at highlights Giants v Steelers from last night, Walser being interviewed after the game is not a happy coach right now, players will have shape up or ship out. Who in Panthers team needs to "shape up or ship out" I watched that match Fishman & to be honest neither of them looked brilliant, very tired actually. Belfast missing 3 imports & so were Sheffield I think. I can't think of any of our imports who I'd actually ship out at the moment to be honest, what about you? |
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Post by iginla on Feb 3, 2016 11:14:38 GMT
Last night both teams were indeed missing several injured imports EMB,however Sheffield still iced 13 imports and Belfast iced 12 imports because they have the spare bodies to cover it.
Had that been Panthers with the same amount of injuries,then we would have been icing 9 or 10 imports,that's the difference !
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Post by Mozzy on Feb 3, 2016 12:29:19 GMT
Last night both teams were indeed missing several injured imports EMB,however Sheffield still iced 13 imports and Belfast iced 12 imports because they have the spare bodies to cover it. Had that been Panthers with the same amount of injuries,then we would have been icing 9 or 10 imports,that's the difference ! Yes we did ice 13 imports, many of them banged up but surely the idea of you signing so many Brits in the summer was for this reason. Yes, you may have only iced 9 or 10 imports but your extra import quality Brits would have made up for it. Look at last night, we iced one real import quality Brit in O'Connor. Yes, Phillips and Hewitt were there but they are not true import quality anymore. You would have made up for your lack of import numbers with Clarke, Farmer, Myers, Lachowicz, Lee and possibly Swindlehirst. I'd be very surprised if you would have iced less players in total than us. Hewitt was playing on our top line last night. Our better players are sitting in the stands at the moment. |
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Post by ted logan on Feb 3, 2016 12:34:41 GMT
Who in Panthers team needs to "shape up or ship out" Gary Moran? Neil Black?  |
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Post by Ian on Feb 3, 2016 12:44:12 GMT
Who in Panthers team needs to "shape up or ship out" The coach. Actually, he's had plenty of chance to shape up and never has, so maybe the time has come for him to just ship out. |
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Post by nate24 on Feb 3, 2016 13:02:42 GMT
Who in Panthers team needs to "shape up or ship out" The coach. Actually, he's had plenty of chance to shape up and never has, so maybe the time has come for him to just ship out. He should of departed in the summer. |
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Post by iginla on Feb 3, 2016 13:14:09 GMT
Just a point Mozzy,who got the winning goal last night.......Oh yes It was Phillips,that minor Brit !
As for imports v Brits,give me an import any day of the week.
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Post by Mozzy on Feb 3, 2016 13:40:57 GMT
Just a point Mozzy,who got the winning goal last night.......Oh yes It was Phillips,that minor Brit ! As for imports v Brits,give me an import any day of the week. Not really sure how Phillips scoring last night changes anything. I'm sure some of your "minor" Brits have scored before. Why would you choose an import over a Brit every time? There are plenty of Brits in this league that are as good if not better than a good chunk of imports. I'm sure if you'd like to move a few of your Brits on there'd be a whole host of teams ready to snap them up. You may have played import games short but there are not many games where you have iced less players than your opponents. |
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Post by iginla on Feb 3, 2016 13:59:59 GMT
I would always choose an import Mozzy.
A. Because you can replace them if either they don't perform or get injured.
B. Because imports are the real game breakers.
C. Because for the same money you pay a Brit you can get an import of far better quality.
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Post by gump on Feb 3, 2016 14:17:10 GMT
Not really sure how someone who is 36/37 yrs old ,has not played this year and obviously his best years behind him can be seen as a good signing.
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Post by Yotes on Feb 3, 2016 14:30:59 GMT
You've prematurely aged him, and he played in the top Swiss league last year. Won't still be at an NHL level, but will have plenty for the Elite League.
Do you think Jackman was a bad signing?
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Post by Thomas Elliott on Feb 3, 2016 14:44:12 GMT
I watched that match Fishman & to be honest neither of them looked brilliant, very tired actually. Belfast missing 3 imports & so were Sheffield I think. I can't think of any of our imports who I'd actually ship out at the moment to be honest, what about you? Well Panthers have quite a few not performing in goal column, Clarke , Lacko, Moran, Macmillan and Lawrence, having named these players I do expect all bar Lacko to get close to 20 goals each this season. The 1 player that 's great watch and scored plenty of goal is Juraj Kolnik, I for one didn't think he would be as good as he is!!!!!!!!! Wait... What!?!? You expect that Clarke should be getting close to 20 goals a season... he's currently on 15 goals with 16 gmaes left of the season. This seems that it could be fairly likely that he will reach your expected level, but you would still ship him out. Also you expected Logan MacMillan to get close to 20 goals this season, when he's only reached that point once, in his junior career 9 year ago, but you didn't expect that Jaraj Kolnik who has played 250 NHL games and has been a decent point scorer throughout his career to not be as good as he is?? For what it's worth I do see where you're coming from regarding Moran's goals (but I do think he offers more than goals scored by himself) and Lacho and Lawrence. |
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Post by iginla on Feb 3, 2016 16:08:34 GMT
Spot on Slade.
Especially Kolnik,he has been our best player by a country mile.
As good as Schultz is,it amazes me how he seems to get all the plaudits,but Kolnik is far more valuable.
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Post by PantherB on Feb 3, 2016 16:28:48 GMT
Has anyone actually considered that Corey may not be able to sign anyone as cover, we know he said he was looking for the right guy but why are people jumping to conclusions assumin Corey has sat there and done nothing? Maybe GM won't approve players he's interested in, maybe Black hasn't allowed a transfer to go through, or maybe even Corey has found players but they've had better offers/turned him down for other opportunities. We've seen Corey sign players very quickly upon injuries, some have been beneficial but a few have been disastrous, it seems that some of you on here just want any random person who plays D regardless of who they are and we know that Corey is smarter than 'Ooh this guy's available, let me give him a call' he's learned from his mistakes and won't be rushed into signing anyone just for the sake of it.
Vandermeer is a good player, we can see that, the thing is.. He's related to David Rutherford. Giant's could've quite easily asked him to chat to Jim and being a relative, surley that makes the odds on him signing a lot better.
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Post by wgray on Feb 3, 2016 16:56:12 GMT
Well Panthers have quite a few not performing in goal column, Clarke , Lacko, Moran, Macmillan and Lawrence, having named these players I do expect all bar Lacko to get close to 20 goals each this season. The 1 player that 's great watch and scored plenty of goal is Juraj Kolnik, I for one didn't think he would be as good as he is!!!!!!!!! Wait... What!?!? You expect that Clarke should be getting close to 20 goals a season... he's currently on 15 goals with 16 gmaes left of the season. This seems that it could be fairly likely that he will reach your expected level, but you would still ship him out. Also you expected Logan MacMillan to get close to 20 goals this season, when he's only reached that point once, in his junior career 9 year ago, but you didn't expect that Jaraj Kolnik who has played 250 NHL games and has been a decent point scorer throughout his career to not be as good as he is?? For what it's worth I do see where you're coming from regarding Moran's goals (but I do think he offers more than goals scored by himself) and Lacho and Lawrence. 100% agree with what you say, tbh the only player that I would get rid of, and this is quite controversial, is Steve Lee, I know he has some good moments but he is such a liability at times |
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Post by texpef on Feb 3, 2016 17:50:19 GMT
Last night both teams were indeed missing several injured imports EMB,however Sheffield still iced 13 imports and Belfast iced 12 imports because they have the spare bodies to cover it. Had that been Panthers with the same amount of injuries,then we would have been icing 9 or 10 imports,that's the difference ! Yes we did ice 13 imports, many of them banged up but surely the idea of you signing so many Brits in the summer was for this reason. Yes, you may have only iced 9 or 10 imports but your extra import quality Brits would have made up for it. Look at last night, we iced one real import quality Brit in O'Connor. Yes, Phillips and Hewitt were there but they are not true import quality anymore. You would have made up for your lack of import numbers with Clarke, Farmer, Myers, Lachowicz, Lee and possibly Swindlehirst. I'd be very surprised if you would have iced less players in total than us. Hewitt was playing on our top line last night. Our better players are sitting in the stands at the moment. Always trot out the same old line about numbers... dont make me laugh Out of interest how did steelers manage to win the league last season... wasnt the brits it was the best 3 players in the league (and heres a clue... none had a british passport)... |
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