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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 10:43:19 GMT
Finnerty comes with less arrogance than CN so that's fine with me. And a hell of a lot less silverware too. Ahhhh another CN lover. We'll I'll be glad when he's gone. He's ran his course and time for a change
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Post by Thomas Elliott on Feb 15, 2016 10:56:39 GMT
And a hell of a lot less silverware too. Ahhhh another CN lover. We'll I'll be glad when he's gone. He's ran his course and time for a change Firstly, no not at all, I just appreciate what he has achieved since he took charge. Secondly, I agree he's ran his course and it's time for a change. Finally, why would we want Ryan Finnerty here. What has he done coaching wise?! I for one would be pretty cheesed off if we got rid of Neilson and replaced him with someone who doesn't have a decent track record with trophies or a decent CV. Not winning anything in Sheffield or Braehead will not cut it for me. He's going to have had similar resources to what we have here in Nottingham in all of his 5 seasons as a coach in the EIHL and he's won one Gardner Conference title for Braehead. In the 5 years Finnerty has been a coach Corey has won 1 League Title, 3 Challenge Cups, 2 Playoffs and the Erhardt conference. That would be a backward step for me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 11:06:28 GMT
I think Finner has the potential to be a decent coach
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Post by mattscold on Feb 15, 2016 11:08:42 GMT
Ahhhh another CN lover. We'll I'll be glad when he's gone. He's ran his course and time for a change Firstly, no not at all, I just appreciate what he has achieved since he took charge. Secondly, I agree he's ran his course and it's time for a change. Finally, why would we want Ryan Finnerty here. What has he done coaching wise?! I for one would be pretty cheesed off if we got rid of Neilson and replaced him with someone who doesn't have a decent track record with trophies or a decent CV. Not winning anything in Sheffield or Braehead will not cut it for me. He's going to have had similar resources to what we have here in Nottingham in all of his 5 seasons as a coach in the EIHL and he's won one Gardner Conference title for Braehead. In the 5 years Finnerty has been a coach Corey has won 1 League Title, 3 Challenge Cups, 2 Playoffs and the Erhardt conference. That would be a backward step for me. +1 to all of this. Think it is time for a change but I woulg be raving if Finnerty got the job. That would be a shift backwards of Back to the Future level proportions. I actually wouldn't mind someone like Jordan Fox to get the job, not gonna happen I know, but still.
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Post by mattscold on Feb 15, 2016 11:09:14 GMT
I think Finner has the potential to be a decent coach Based on what? His record at Sheffield or his record at Braehead? No evidence in either that he has that potential, imo.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 11:24:31 GMT
Firstly, no not at all, I just appreciate what he has achieved since he took charge. Secondly, I agree he's ran his course and it's time for a change. Finally, why would we want Ryan Finnerty here. What has he done coaching wise?! I for one would be pretty cheesed off if we got rid of Neilson and replaced him with someone who doesn't have a decent track record with trophies or a decent CV. Not winning anything in Sheffield or Braehead will not cut it for me. He's going to have had similar resources to what we have here in Nottingham in all of his 5 seasons as a coach in the EIHL and he's won one Gardner Conference title for Braehead. In the 5 years Finnerty has been a coach Corey has won 1 League Title, 3 Challenge Cups, 2 Playoffs and the Erhardt conference. That would be a backward step for me. +1 to all of this. Think it is time for a change but I woulg be raving if Finnerty got the job. That would be a shift backwards of Back to the Future level proportions. I actually wouldn't mind someone like Jordan Fox to get the job, not gonna happen I know, but still. Based on what? No experience. Good players don't always make good coaches
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Post by Thomas Elliott on Feb 15, 2016 11:25:34 GMT
I agree with this statement. On a personal note I'd want someone with a decent pedigree and new to the league.
I do think Fox could make a decent coach, but I don't want him learning his trade here.
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Post by Yotes on Feb 15, 2016 11:30:45 GMT
Look well if they wait and move him down here in place of Corey... You shouldn't joke about things like that EMB.
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Post by EMB on Feb 15, 2016 11:57:37 GMT
Look well if they wait and move him down here in place of Corey... You shouldn't joke about things like that EMB. I'm not, someone actually mentioned it on the current TCW podcast & I actually thought I could see this happening. Whether Finner would actually get on with GM is another matter.
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Post by iginla on Feb 15, 2016 13:14:58 GMT
Haha, Finner and GM,now that would be like cat and dog,I cannot see those two working together. There is no way Finner would put up with Morans shenanigans !
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Post by mattscold on Feb 15, 2016 13:19:42 GMT
+1 to all of this. Think it is time for a change but I woulg be raving if Finnerty got the job. That would be a shift backwards of Back to the Future level proportions. I actually wouldn't mind someone like Jordan Fox to get the job, not gonna happen I know, but still. Based on what? No experience. Good players don't always make good coaches Just based on his attitude tbh, i agree though someone with experience would be better. Just as long as its not a coach that has already proven himself to be a huge failure.
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Post by EMB on Feb 15, 2016 13:26:42 GMT
In that case then he wouldn't last very long, abit like Messrs Adey & Ellis. I could actually see us with someone from the current team taking over.
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Post by pingchowchi on Feb 15, 2016 13:55:32 GMT
I think Finner has the potential to be a decent coach He has been a coach in this league for four years now, if he doesn't manage to win the league this year with the Clan and all the advantages that they enjoy, then he certainly wont win the league here.
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Post by harlan on Feb 15, 2016 16:00:34 GMT
As a Flyers fan I have been able to watch Finnerty and his teams really closely over the last three years and IMO I honestly think he is one of the most over rated coaches I have ever seen and I honestly don't know where he has got his reputation from to be able to be in such a fortunate position as he has found himself.
As others have said in this thread he has been in an incredible lucky situation with the Clan job over the last two seasons and won nothing major with them against relatively inferior opposition compared to the other teams who have won the major trophies, the league, challenge cup and play offs, and if he doesn't win what I believe is the only trophy left for him this season- the play offs- then his position not only at Clan but for another coaching job in this country is seriously under consideration, if it already isn't.
Teams always match their coaches personality, you get to see a bit of a coach in the players he recruits and the style they adopt, and for me Finnerty has all the wrong attributes for a coach. He has no composure or control and is easily got at by opposition fans and players and easily loses what composure he does have and as such his teams can easily lose discipline and control on the ice, he does not lead in the right way for me and you can see when that happens by the way his teams change their style on the ice, you can sense when he is frustrated and that he doesn't know how to change it and then you know you have him beat.
He has had two big coaching opportunities in this country and done nothing with them, why should he be given a third opportunity at failure with Panthers? For me it would be a step backwards for Panthers if you were looking to replace Neilson with him. I know that I wouldn't renew my Flyers season ticket or even attend a Flyers game if he were ever appointed coach at Kirkcaldy, he is just the wrong fit
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Post by MODSTUFF on Feb 15, 2016 18:21:29 GMT
My biggest worry is that we may have needed Clan to take the league title for things to change.
If they fail to win it again this year it will still say the same format.
Then next season Clan fans will argue that the conference can't be beneficial to them because they've not won the league yet. But we'll all know the reason they didn't win was because they choked.
Then the debate will go round and round again......
I really hope the conference system is scrapped this summer.
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Post by thebestpanthers on Feb 20, 2016 21:38:18 GMT
Lost AGAIN tonight - aren't you glad you do not support them - Shuff also lose so odds on Cardiff
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Post by Yotes on Feb 20, 2016 22:07:16 GMT
Fife really have their number. As does everyone else in the league ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) Let's see if Finnerty pays the price for failure? Blacky's MO would suggest he won't, provided the attendance figures are healthy of course. Priorities.
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Post by fishman on Feb 20, 2016 22:19:17 GMT
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Post by spik on Feb 20, 2016 22:41:22 GMT
Your getting sacked in the morning......
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Post by harlan on Feb 21, 2016 1:53:43 GMT
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Post by jdizpt8 on Feb 21, 2016 9:18:41 GMT
I can see this happening. But depends of weather panthers are attractive enough of a club for a coach to come in and play under GM's and NB's rules. Like saying to a kid here you go pick the sweets you want excepts the ones with sugar in them. Fear not guys I've got a hunch in going to win the euro millions buy the club sack GM get a decent set up and have panthers hit their full potential. And create a block 18 barmy army!!
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Post by Bagheera on Feb 21, 2016 9:32:37 GMT
If it's your club to do as you please, why not a block 15 Barmy Army! ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) Really ruffle some feathers.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2016 9:34:53 GMT
Anyone seen Discoray?
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Post by Shorty on Feb 21, 2016 10:04:03 GMT
Clan losing games is actually backing up the suggestion that the conferences are competitive.
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Post by ted logan on Feb 21, 2016 10:47:50 GMT
Clan losing games is actually backing up the suggestion that the conferences are competitive. Or its backing up the suggestion that Braehead aren't that good and that conference is so competitive because Braehead maybe aren't all that. Especially down the stretch. They've bottled it again. They've got the easier conference. Which conference do the league winners (and runners up), cup winners (and runners up) and play off winners (and runners up) continually come from?
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